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bz
Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 2:39pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2

"- Why can't Romulans be assimilated?" this is actually quite well explained, though not explicitly stated. The Borg assimilated "auntie" (I don't remember her real name) who went insane after seeing the "prophecy". The cube "went insane" too and the Borg cut it off from the collective to prevent this from spreading.
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Bztfunk
Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 7:48am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: The Impossible Box

Absolutely. Talking about medical hologram, why doesnt he prevent Jurati from killing Maddox? Why wasn't he interrogated by the crew about Maddox death? Yeah, nobody(Picard included)seems surprised that a stabilized qnd out of danger Maddox died suddenly. Sure...
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BZ
Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 2:08pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Absolute Candor

@Booming,
RE: Romulans being enemies. There may not have been an all out war with the Romulans, but they were hostile to the Federation, with an attempted attack as late as Voyager's Message in a Bottle. Even after they joined the Dominion war there were tensions between Romulans and the other allies. And it was made clear that the situation would not change for the better after the war ended. It's a lot like the Soviet Union vs the other allies during and after World War II, complete with the initial non-aggression pact.
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BZ
Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 8:28am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

Random ramblings

Certainly a setup episode. Not as good as the pilot, but then the pilot had to reintroduce the new Picard and update us on the history. According to what I hear next week is more of the same, after which point the series turns "full Discovery". I hope not in a bad way.

The android "slaves"... I think the pilot made it clear that sentient androids are not possible with the then-current level of technology, so they are pure machines, so it's ok.

The F-bomb scene. I like it. Of course I was as shocked as Picard at first, but as she kept talking, I thought Admiral Clancy had a point. Not only did she adequately explain why the aid to the Romulans had to stop , but, if you think about it, Picard is asking to get out of retirement and "oh, captain will be ok" after not only resigning in protest, but giving that damning interview just yesterday (or however long it was, not too long ago). That is just a bit arrogant and entitled of Picard.

The Shin Bet (I am not anti-Israel, I just can't help noticing the similarity in names. Are Zhat and Vash letters of the Romulan alphabet like Shin and Bet are in Hebrew?) motivation seems a bit one-note for a super-secret organization, and how exactly do they infiltrate Starfleet at such senior positions? When did it happen? A long time ago?

Finally, Romulans as enemies. We've had two reconciliations now that went completely forgotten. First in DS9 when they allied with the Federation in the Dominion war, and even providing Defiant with a cloak. Then in Nemesis there is a path to reconciliation after the Enterprise defeats Shinzon. Sure, you can walk that all back if need be, but it has to be done onscreen and it wasn't.

And speaking of Romulans (and off topic here I guess), I've been thinking about the Cardassians lately, and how their existence is completely unnecessary. Just about everything in TNG and DS9 featuring Cardassians could substitute Romulans with minimal changes. The societies are similar, totalitarian regimes, secretive intelligence agencies, etc. I can see them as Bajor's occupiers, as allies to the Domininion, torturing Picard, etc, etc. Does anyone else agree?
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BZ
Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 2:34pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Remembrance

No need for personal attacks. Neocon? Outrage? I made a statement based on today's political situation. Star Trek is often social commentary, you know.
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BZ
Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 12:18pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Remembrance

@wolf359,
Nero's and Spock's time travel created an alternate timeline. The events of TOS, TNG, and the other series and movies (and the background events that set off the J.J. Abrams movies), still remain in the "prime" timeline. It's true that that's not typically how time travel works in Trek, but then we've never seen time travel via red matter black holes before.

This has all been confirmed out of universe by the creators, and in-universe by Star trek: Discovery / Short Treks. We see Spock first join the Enterprise, and it's not as first officer with academy cadets to go to Vulcan right before it's destroyed.
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BZ
Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 9:56am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Remembrance

@OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
It's not as dystopian as the trailers made it out to be

* Romulus destroyed in a supernova - this is established canon
* Reluctance on Federation's part to help the Romulans - they still seem to be hostile, so it's an understandable reaction
* Mars attacked - this is one of those unexpected threats nobody could have foreseen. Compare Wolf 359
* Banned synthetics - this is quite in character. Compare Khan and the ban on eugenics
* Picard confronted by a hostile reporter - given all of the above some anger would be expected
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BZ
Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 9:47pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Remembrance

I am a bit reluctant to come to any conclusions this early, given that the pilot of "Discovery" was nothing like the rest season 1, but I mostly like what I see. It's refreshing to get most of the mysteries surrounding Daj resolved in the first episode, and not in the way everyone was speculating (she's not a Borg or a Q), even if she had to die (another surprise). Also, from what we see so far, the Federation and Starfleet have not been corrupted or taken over by fascists or anything. In fact, I wonder if Picard's resignation was an over-reaction.

The "reveal" that the Romulans are on a Borg cube is a bit disingenuous given it was in just about every trailer, but even that hearkens back to the TNG or at least Voyager era where reveals like this were often spoiled by trailers.

Given the hostility toward Romulans I almost wonder if Picard's "servants" are illegal immigrants.
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BZ
Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 3:03pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: If Memory Serves

I'd say Saru and Tilly are interesting characters. Stamets to a certain extent as well. Lorca would have been interesting had his character not gone off the rails. In fact, he was shaping up to be the most interesting on the show, which is part of why the MU arc destroyed the whole season for me. And now we have Pike who pretty much outshines everyone else this season.

As of season 1 on TNG, I'd say only Picard and Data were established as anything special. Voyager's truly interesting season 1 characters were The Doctor and Tuvok; maybe Tom Paris could be on that list too. DS9 had a lot more, and had probably the best season 1 in all of Trek.
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BZ
Fri, Mar 1, 2019, 3:16pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Light and Shadows

Seriously, what's wrong with the temporal cold war, or at least the idea of it? If executed well, it could have been a great story arc.
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BZ
Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 10:06am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: The Sound of Thunder

@Jason R,
The problem with a heavily serialized show like Discovery in S1 is that you can't really rate most episodes as you watch them. You have to look at them as a whole. And any episode featuring Lorca or the Klingon war is ruined by the revelations in the MU arc and the finale respectively. This really leaves only the series premiere and two "episodic" episodes to somewhat stand on their own two feet. In S2 most of these episodes will hold up regardless of how the red angel and Spock story lines resolve themselves. The episodes will be *enhanced* if it's a good resolution, but not really hurt if it's a bad one.
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BZ
Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 2:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: An Obol for Charon

In retrospect, it's obvious that Lorca hired Michael because he needed her in the MU. Note how reluctant he was to put her in harm's way in S1.
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BZ
Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 10:43am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: An Obol for Charon

One question I don't think anyone has asked yet is what Saru's change implies given what happened in "Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum" last season. From what little we see of the "new" Saru in this episode, he doesn't seem mentally unstable or super-selfish like he was in that episode (although it does seem like he is willing to disregard the Prime Directive to reach out to his people again). Maybe Saru's new state is not the same as the one in that episode, but those events should at least be brought up and hand-waved if they're not going to be explored in future episodes.
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BZ
Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 7:55am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: An Obol for Charon

I actually liked this one. I can't explain it rationally, but I liked it. At the end of the episode, I didn't react with "huh?" or "that's it?", but with that sense of contentment that I didn't totally waste an hour. And I absolutely thought Saru might die. We had major characters die before. Was the episode wonderful flawless, etc? No, but one of the best of discovery so far.
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BZ
Mon, Feb 4, 2019, 11:06am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

This feels like trying to apply season 2's format to a part of season 1's story line. We have a self-contained Klingon story line (the baby is discovered and dealt with. L'Rell's leadership is challenged and dealt with) while slowly progressing the season ark (the red angel stuff). The problem (well, one problem) is that it's too much for one episode. Another problem is that I never cared about the internal Klingon stuff, and still don't. And the Tilly/ghost stuff is handled like Season 1, which is to say serialized badly. Like last season's Ash/Voq reveal, it was too soon and pointless from the plot perspective.

I'm still curious about what the red angels are and what's going on with Spock, but the rest of the episode is just the worst of S1 mixed with the worst of S2.

The best I can say is that the new format is theoretically better than the old, and lends itself more to truly good episodes. I just hope we get some soon.
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BZ
Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 1:40pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: New Eden

I'm going to say "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad" is still my favorite episode of Discovery so far. Most of season 1 got worse in retrospect given how the MU and Ash/Voq plots played out. This is one of two relatively standalone episodes in S1 and, as such, wasn't impacted by those revelations. Now it's not perfect by any means, but it introduces meaningful differences to "Cause and Effect" (one of my favorite Trek episodes of all time) to not be derivative.

S2 so far doesn't feel as good. As I said before, we need more plot in standalone episodes, something "Magic" delivered.
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BZ
Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 8:40am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: New Eden

I feel like, while the first two episodes are indeed more like Star Trek, there just isn't enough that happens in them.

So the action on the planet consists of the following: spending a long time figuring out the history by themselves, spending a long time being told the same history by the locals, talking with that one guy who prefers science over religion. Confirming his suspicions, making him not tell anyone.

The action on the ship is even worse. The planet is in danger and is saved by cool SFX. That's it.

There is no moral dilemma in this episode, no character development (except maybe Tilly), no allegory, nothing. The religion vs science debate is a short conversation not leading to anything of consequence (except Michael following an order for once).

When previous series had a similar premise, you'd have real drama baked in, maybe a crew member falls in love with, or befriends, someone on the planet, someone breaks a law and is sentenced to some harsh punishment, there is some internal conflict the crew unwittingly gets involved in, something. But here, nothing of consequence happens.

This happened often in season 1 as well, but there was always a hook for what comes next, so suspense was building throughout the season, and everything hinged on how the season ark was resolved (answer: badly, but that's a different issue). Now that we have more standalone episodes you can't really do that. The red angel thing is a subtext, it's not the meat of the series (so far). We need more to get invested in the episode.

Or at least I do.
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BZ
Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 9:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: The City on the Edge of Forever

So I finally watched this after somehow missing it during my original TOS watching years ago. While watching I had to keep reminding myself that this is the prototype time-travel episode before they came up with plausible ways to avoid ridiculous contrivances (currents in time? Calculating the time to enter the portal to within a week's precision?). Of course it's not unique to this episode. The whole theory of convergent evolution used to explain identical human aliens comes to mind.

Then the premise. One woman's pacifist movement delays (not prevents) US entering the war and saving the day. There is so much wrong here. Pearl Harbor was already mentioned, but no one said anything about the little detail that the war was basically already won when the US opened the second front. Any delay would mean the war was over. At least the war between Germany/Italy and the allies. Any action Japan might have undertaken unilaterally is a wildcard, but it certainly wouldn't be Hitler's nuclear bombs attacking the US. And Japan alone would not under any circumstances outright win a war with the US. I mean Enterprise's horrible Nazi episode provided a more plausible reason for Germans to win, doing something in Russia (assassinating Lenin in Enterprise's case).

But I guess none of it matters if the drama made up for it and... I wasn't impressed. It just didn't move me for whatever reason.
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BZ
Thu, Mar 22, 2018, 1:12pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S1: Will You Take My Hand?

I'd say another reason to make a prequel is to explore how events lead up to what you already know about your favorite characters / races / etc. We got a bit of that in the JJ reboots (early in the first film mostly) and a bit more in Enterprise. We did get a tiny bit of this in Discovery (Sarek's relationship with Spock and more of his life pre-TNG), but not enough to justify it.

But it's not true that DSC being serialized means it can't recover from a bad first season. There is nothing from Season 1 that needs to ever be brought up again aside from the spore drive, which needs to be wrapped up, and Michael's basic character growth outline (which isn't bad as far as backstories go).
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BZ
Thu, Mar 15, 2018, 4:37pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Best of Both Worlds, Part I

@Paul M,
The score sets the mood for the scene. A great score enhances your viewing without you being consciously aware why it's being enhanced.
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BZ
Thu, Mar 15, 2018, 10:29am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Best of Both Worlds, Part I

While I still think this is a great episode (despite how primitive TNG Borg appear now), I have to disagree about the score. The fact I'm even noticing that it's there is the first indicator that there is a problem. The problem is, the entire episode, from beginning to end, has the "something ominous is happening" music, even when nothing ominous is happening. Take the opening captain's log:
"Captain's log, Stardate 43989.1. The Enterprise has arrived at Jouret IV in response to a distress signal from one of the Federation's outermost colonies."
Ok, yes, there was a distress call, but the music sounds more like "Captaibn's log. The Enterprise is about to be ripped to pieces and there's no time to abandon ship". In other words, over the top. Had it been subtle foreboding building up to a climax when Picard is taken or something, that's one thing. But really? The whole episode?
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BZ
Thu, Mar 8, 2018, 12:21pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Survivors

I find it odd that Picard figures out what's going on, but doesn't tell anyone. It's not necessary for the show to work as a mystery, and there's no in-universe reason to keep the crew in the dark. The other oddness is the music box and its connection to Troy. In that there isn't one, except the music Troy hears is the same as that of the music box and that it starts when Crusher picks it up. It makes me think the plot was somewhat reworked at the last minute. Perhaps Troy and Picard were meant to be the ones on the first away mission instead of Riker and Crusher, but the writers felt it would make the mystery too easy to solve.
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BZ
Tue, Feb 27, 2018, 12:11pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: Cause and Effect

My favorite TNG episode of all time. One thing I only realized with the latest viewing is that almost the entire episode is from Crusher's point of view. I believe the only scenes where she's not present occur during the final timeline with Geordi and Data getting some screen time alone, and a bit of Picard reading in his quarters.
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BZ
Mon, Feb 26, 2018, 8:08am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S1: Will You Take My Hand?

@Dom,
I think BSG was consistently good until about the last season when it became apparent that the creators had no idea how to end the show. That is simply inexcusable on a serialized show. Of course Trek is known for this type of thing in individual two-parters, where part 2 is often written by a different writer after part 1 is already done. I can't speak for the other shows you listed since I've never watched them.
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BZ
Sun, Feb 18, 2018, 9:43pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S1: Will You Take My Hand?

@Peter G.,
To be fair, Sarek only said it worked for the Vulcans, and explicitly cautioned that the Shenzou's situation may be different.
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