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Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 5:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Endgame

I watched it. His new version of Endgame is much better. Janeway trying to save Galaxy from Borg Apocalypse is more relevant than destroying future to save egoistically a few friends.Borg Apocalypse reminds me a fine episode of Tng, where Riker tries to survive in an alternate reality.
If you add the promised reunions(Paris father and son, Tuvok and his family...), Voyager destruction and my bittersweet moments and ending, you obtain a fine episode, with great issues, action and believable human behaviors.
On the other end, his original final episode is underwhelming:no great issues and it's a rehash of a previous Barclay episode. Not good.
A finale episode and preferably a last season should resolve all issues satisfactorily.last season and Endgame does not:Paris/ father janeway/chakotay doc/seven Tuvok/family and on and on... Strangely, only Neelix got a great conclusion in a full episode!!!

Finally, my re-watch of Voyager didn't change my first opinion :it's a fun but inconsequential show, far behind Tng and DS9, with very few great episodes.
But better than Enterprise and Discovery (ugh)

See you in a few months to deliver my own finale episode of Enterprise, after it's first re-watch.... Lol
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Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 8:08am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Endgame

I love your ending, grumpy_otter, specially the Tuvok part(I thought exactly the same scene).
But I think your version is not enough bittersweet. We learn with Endgame that Voyager lost a few officers, I think it's fair.My version would include the loss of the innocent Harry.
The loop wouldbe complete with another Caretaker sending the crew back. Janeway must destroy Voyager to permit the crew's return(I don't know how and why...), another heartbreaking scene. Maybe with Chakotay preventing Janeway to sink with her ship, (by declaring his love?) .
I imagine Harry's parents looking for him in the crowd at the dock.Then a sad Janeway arrives in front of them... No words.. Just her sad face. Heart breaking...
I think also that some officers, after so many years of action,as war veterans, will not adapt to civil life, specially Janeway. After a year of living with CHakotay holidays, unsatisfied with her new life, she broke and take the command of another ship.
A final meal scene, with the ancient bridge crew, before Janeway departure, with a vacant seat for Harry, a toast to the lost crew, emotional crossed looks and a large final shoot of the table, where life resumes with enjoyed talking and smiles.
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Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 1:31am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: Shadowplay

To be fair Bareil is good looking and Vedek's for the Bajorans are revered figures.
I think they really clicked in the episode "the circle" in the monastery. I think that episode shows that Kira because of the her life of fighting feels inner turmoil. Bareil is the cure for that. He is good and kind man but he is most of all calm, has inner peace and is in harmony with the world. Three things Kira, the war veteran, definitely wants.
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Brian Lear
Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 3:41pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Dear Doctor

Imagine there are two patients, both in need of a heart transplant to live. One of them has a lethal disease that will kill him in just a couple years. The other patient does not have the disease and will likely gain decades of quality life years with the new heart. There is only one heart available. Which patient should get it?

This episode initially asks us to judge the relative utility of saving a race that will eventually die out anyway, versus doing nothing. It then seamlessly transitions to asking us to consider the larger question of whether we should even be concerning ourselves with the first question in the first place. And I think that's where a lot of people fell off the train. The first question wasn't really answered. But the second question was. They decided not to answer the first question, because they couldn't. Not that time, not that place.

That non-answer is what really threw people off this episode. But I urge those of you in that category to reconsider. My enjoyment of this episode does not hinge on the decisions made. If it does for you, I suspect you are too close to the material, and not seeing the big picture. Take a few steps back and re-watch it. Try not caring whether they answer the question or not, and just enjoy watching them wrestle with it. It's the journey people, not the destination.
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Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 2:07am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: Let He Who Is Without Sin...

Yes and the Federation is the pimp.
Risans give pleasure, the Federation provides tech and everything to make that possible and profits by having a more happy population.
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Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 2:01pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Sleeping Dogs

"I cannot believe a race as obstinate, belligerent and primitive as the Klingons would ever have invented the wheel, never mind done anything useful with it. For them to be a warp-capable civilization is incredible. But anyway..."


I forget where this came from precisely, but wasn't it established in canon in an earlier show that the Klingons stole all their advanced technology (including warp) from the Romulans? Of course the Romulans wouldn't have any kind of Prime Directive, and the Klingons becoming warp capable centuries before they naturally would explains a lot.
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Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 9:44am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Civil Defense

I always saw this one more in the ok category. 2 stars seems like a good rating.
The only thing that I kind of liked in the episode was Dukat's stupid face when the program turned against him. As you mentioned the Dukat Garak bickering was pretty annoying.

One scene in particular really bugged me about that episode and I know that it may sound stupid but here it goes. When they use rocks to blow up the door, they just make a pile and then puff door open. Either the door is made out of paper or this scene makes no sense. If we assume that the door is relatively tough then the trio should be jelly on the other side of the room. The explosion will not just decide: "Oh boy where to focus my energy. Yeah let's open the door."
No, the explosion should have pushed the minecart back and smushed the guys.
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Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 3:17am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: Melora

The whole wheelchair thing is pretty dumb itself. Didn't we already see a hover chair in TNG "Too short a season". Plus they have hover beds, hover everything but disabled people still have to use wheelchairs?!

*I just read that they actually wanted to use the Hoverchair from TNG but didn't because it wouldn't have looked well in the DS9 surroundings...
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William B
Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 8:01pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: A Matter of Perspective

The subject of the paintings is also a nude woman, but one in an ambiguous pose (IIRC), which speaks to a central concern of whether Manua was being a sex object for Riker or was attempting to entice him sexually. The two styles Data mentions before getting to Picard are geometric constructivism and surrealism/irrationality, suggesting scientific and delusional/emotional motifs, as the murder intrigue is related to both Apgar's work and to feelings related to his wife. Picard attempts to blend several different styles, as Springy/Peter note, which is what he attempts to do. I think within episode we are supposed to view Picard as being more successful as an investigator than as a painter at combining multiple perspectives into a coherent narrative to get at The Truth.
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Brian Lear
Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 3:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Terra Nova

Disagree, I thought this was a good episode. Your vision for what "could have been" on Terra Nova, is definitely the more predictable scenario. I like how they didn't go that direction. They did something different, and, while it didn't succeed wildly, at least it made me sit up and think. The idea of an isolated colony of humans converted to subterranean life after a natural disaster is a good one. I would have liked to see a thriving and complex society down there too, it would be fun. But I think the more realistic scenario is the one we got. Humans completely isolated on a planet with few supplies and forced underground. Do you really think they would have come up with the type of underground society we saw in the caretaker, in just a couple generations? Those types of societies take thousands, maybe tens of thousands of years to evolve.

I do agree that the novans should have gotten better dialogue.
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Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 2:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Favorite Son

Anyone else catch Patricia Tallman kicking ass? But yeah, this episode wasn't so great. I noticed another B5 alum playing Valen in "The Void." Babylon 5!
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Bobbington Mc Bob
Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 11:33am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Friday's Child

Crappy episode but loved Spock's line at the end
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Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 5:17am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: In the Cards

@Lew Stone

Omicron please don't react to him. Let him do his thing.
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Cody B
Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 12:50am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Non Sequitur

Not a bad episode. Reminds me of a Voyager version of The Inner Light. That alternate Earth version of Paris reminded me of the Stone Temple Pilots singer for some reason
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Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 3:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Dear Doctor

Jason R.,

I think Dr. Phlox's use of the word "evolved" is totally and dangerously incorrect. When he says a species is "more evolved" than another, it propagates the unscientific belief that evolution has an ultimate destiny, when in scientific reality, it does not. Evolution is based ONLY on genetic mutations that benefit survivability in a particular environment over those without the mutation. We're not all destined to become pure beings of light.

The words he could have used that would have been scientifically correct would have been "developed" or "complex." It's possible the Valakians may have had a more complex neurological system than the Menk. But it is IMPOSSIBLE for Phlox to know if a species' brain would become more complex generations down the line without the use of a time machine. The only argument I could see is by wiping out the Valakians, the Menk's prime benefactors who they relied on for survivability, would create a new environment where the Menk must adapt or die, possibly favoring resourceful Menk over the long run.

This episode gets 0 Stars purely for the garbage science alone. This episode may have even informed some people's personal understanding of evolution, which is almost unforgivable.

But this episode is not about evolution really. The story they wanted to tell (but also failed here as well) was about the origins of the Prime Directive and non-interference in other planetary races' development. Many people have stated here in the comments in respects to the appalling interpretation of the Prime Directive in this episode, so I don't need to go into it too.

But there was something here that could have worked and made sense as a morality tale for the need of non-interference, and they totally missed the opportunity. Everything in the episode is the same leading up to that conservation between Phlox and Archer. My change would have been Phlox couldn't find a cure. He's a doctor, not a cultural anthropologist, so of course he then pleads with Archer to still try to help them live (Hippocratic Oath and all). The Valakians had earlier asked Archer for their warp drive technology so they could go out on their own to see if another species can help them find a cure. Because of Phlox's urging and his own pain at seeing suffering, Archer reluctantly gives the Valakians the specs for warp drive to help them save themselves. But the Valakians prove incapable of handling this new technology in their current state of scientific development, where they unintentionally cause an anti-matter chain reaction, destroying the entire planet. Both Menk and Valakians are now wiped out. The Prime Directive is about culture, technology, and engineering and the need for a race to develop social ideas and these advanced machines on their own. It is NOT about watching people die until they magically figure out warp drive technology.

Yes, my proposed story change is a lot darker, but it actually is a story about the need for the Prime Directive that MAKES SENSE, both scientifically and culturally.
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Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 3:00am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: In the Cards

@ Lew Stone
"your last sentence proves my point that you are arrogant which is probably why you, along with your buddies here, so ravenously attack anyone who doesn't like DS9. Keep being arrogant see where it gets you."
*Sigh* You accuse others of having no humor but that seems to be pointing to a pattern you show here which is projection. Most of my comment wasn't serious.
For some reason while reading your comment I had to think of this scene

You are entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled of being free from having your opinion criticized.

"But I'm coming from a place of open-mindedness, you all are simply close-minded trolls trying to demolish anyone who doesn't agree with you."
Well, if that statement doesn't speak for itself. I recommend that you try to be a little bit more self-aware.

I'll leave you in peace now and don't worry I will not end this post with a joke that you interpret as a vicious attack.

See what I did there. :D
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Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 11:59pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: Melora

@ Omicron
"Of-course, I'm not gay myself, so feel free to dispell my enthusiasm for that episode :-) "
Well, if you ask me that nicely and as the God Empress of the LGBT community!
Would you be shocked to hear that the number of countries that discriminate gay men is substantially higher than the number of countries who discriminate lesbian women?

I'm also not surprised that you liked seeing two very attractive women kiss. :)
Seriously though both are portrayed as cerebral, thoughtful scientists. Compared to this episode "Rejoined" definitely holds up when it comes to being progressive.
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Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: Melora

@ Musical Turtle
Thanks for sharing. It certainly gives us a little insight into how much perspective can change when circumstances change.

I did not like the episode but mostly for the whole "Julian is at it again" story line.
I just want to throw in that Melora isn't actually disabled. She came from a planet were everybody was like that. So being dependent on anybody is maybe a bit more annoying. She could just do a full Cartman and say:

But I get it. The episode is about disability/disadvantage. good points.

And don't forget. Disabled people got that episode which is meh but think about what the transsexuals got... a sex change for Quark and gay men were completely absent.
So hey representation... Sorry I couldn't find a good representation meme. They were mostly no taxation without representation memes... :(

Peter G. makes some good points. They probably meant well back then but I guess this is another one of those moments were perspective is king. 1993 pretty forward thinking, 2019 not so much. There was also a Frasier episode about a disabled guy... check it out. It is the lowest rated episode of the first five seasons! :D It's called "The friend"
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Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 3:57pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Gambit

Derivative,somewhat engaging but this would have worked better as a DS9 episode.
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Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 5:04am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: In the Cards

@ Lew Stone
Who am I? What am I doing...

Sisko is not depressed about going to war. He is depressed about the situation which is quickly deteriorating and he can do nothing about it.

Sisko is happy about his son spending a lot of time and effort to give him a little joy because that means that Jake noticed that his father is unwell and then wanted to show him that there are things that are still good in the galaxy. It helps Sisko to open up and gives him emotional pleasure. What is that other than a lovely gesture?

One could also add that in the process of that episode for example Weyoun is shown as three dimensional being, not just another cardboard villain twirling his mustache just being evil for evil's sake. It shows several people from unique angles.
"Picard's interest in ancient civilizations, their artifacts, and what their culture's history can teach present-day peoples versus a baseball card."
Are you sure that Picard ever said that? He gets artifacts during TNG not to put them in a museum but for himself. Plus a baseball card can teach many things about Humans.

" Thanks! The metaphor is made clear.

My comment about Chrome's (and I'm sure it was Chrome) comment works well for either DS9 or Voyager, but it works better for DS9. Either way, it works."

You have a vivid imagination and construct outlandish thinks with it. :D I looked through Chromes's comment stream but couldn't find what you think is there but if you are so sure... :)
Plus I made a comparison. True, but in what way did I use a metaphor? The baseball card is even sold at an auction for artifacts. A 400 year old anything is an artifact. What do you think artifacts are?
The Oxford Dictionary states:
"An object made by a human being, typically one of cultural or historical interest."
A 400 year old baseball card is of cultural and historical interest.

The rest was covered by Omicron quite nicely.

But if you are so bothered by my tremendous wisdom and razor sharp criticism then I will leave you in peace with which I mean swimming trough that endless stream of bile that is your relationship with DS9. ;)
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Simon Blake
Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 8:44am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back

Here's my problem with Empire: tauntauns.

I love, love, LOVE tauntauns. The idea of having a domesticated furry tusked dinosaur to ride is fantastic. The problem is in the realisation. Normally, you'd expect a special effect to look good from a distance, and be a bit disappointing close up. But tauntauns are the opposite: close up, they are (to me) really convincing. When you see Luke and Han sitting astride the beasts, they look *real*. You can practically smell them. But then it cuts to a long shot, and what I guess is a stop-motion (go-motion?) model... which while it's nice enough, just looks like what it is - a little model. It's the least convincing bit of model work in the entire trilogy, and stands out a mile.

What's even more baffling is that in the special editions, they didn't seem to touch these shots at all. I was actually looking forward to them getting those sequences right after twenty years, finally making them look consistent with the close-ups using CGI... and what did we get instead? More Wampa, which nobody asked for.
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Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 3:33am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: In the Cards

@Lew Stone
Personal possession were never not a thing in Star Trek. Picard (artifacts) had them and was obviously happy when he got new ones, Spock (paintings,art) had them. I cannot think of one person on the Enterprise who didn't have some personal possessions which obviously were important to them.
The baseball card is more comparable to flowers you picked yourself. It is less about the thing that is gifted, it is about showing love and that you care.
Plus Sisko collects, like Picard historical artifacts and a 400 years old baseball card can certainly be considered an historical artifact.

"Chrome made a good point several episodes back in one of his/her? posts that DS9 is like watching 20th/21st century people in the STDS9 environment."
Did he or she??? Somebody (Robert) said something like that but it was about Voyager. I guess your brain heard "bad thing about a star trek show" = must have been about DS9! ;)
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Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 11:12pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: The Maquis, Part I

I looked it up on memory alpha. As far as I understand it the Federation settled these planets. 20 years later the Federation and the Cardassians exchanged some colonies which led to TNG's Journey's end. Here settlers refused to leave and are allowed to stay and promised "to be left alone" which made other colonists wanting to stay as well. The Cardassians immediately broke the agreement (different from the treaty) and through various ways tried to force the colonists out.
So I would argue there is quite a bit of moral ambiguity here at least between the Federation and the Maquis.

" They don't get to force the entire Federation's hand (to break their own laws, violate a treat, and start a war) based on their whims. Colonists now dictate how the Federation negotiates treaties? The entire premise is almost childish."
Is it? There are so many examples in history where it went exactly like that. There once was a state, let's call it Teksas which was part of another country let's call it Meksiko. For reasons the settlers from another country... the Hugh Ess Eyy quickly outnumbered the Meksikoan population and declared open revolt which made the Hugh Ess Eyy invade.
Again colonists forcing their mother country to invade or intervene is a pretty common occurrence in human history.
Plus politics is pretty often about half a dozen factions making questionable demands. The problem mostly stems from the fact that every last one of those factions has reasonable arguments for their position.
Or to quote Kira: Everyone has their reasons. That's what's so frightening.

"And of course, when Sisko explains this to Kira she has to scream and yell and make it all about her even though this political situation is nothing at all like the Occupation. Seriously, if an officer can't keep a lid on their emotions during a crisis they need to be dismissed. "
Would probably not be too smart to tell the highest ranking Bayoran officer on the station to get over that whole borderline genocide thing. I mean come on Kira it happened two years ago. How long will you stay mad about the five decade long occupation of your home world combined with mass murder and cultural annihilation. Calm down, geez...
For some reason I had to think of the first minute of this scene. ;)
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William B
Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 8:53am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S4: Fourth Season Recap

@Elliott, ah I see. I thought the character ranking was per season, with the +- for information about trends. That makes sense, though I guess I'd admit surprise that the cumulative effect of four seasons of Bashir would be higher than four seasons of Garak (e.g.) even though I completely agree Bashir had a great fourth season and Garak a poor-for-Garak one.
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Bobbington Mc Bob
Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:38pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Metamorphosis

Cochrane: "What? That alien thing loves me? Gross. Screw that"

Companion: "Hey its ok, I possessed the body of a woman whose deterioration I was primarily responsible for, who found you repulsive and immoral but was hot, a bit lonely and on the verge of death, so now we can bone forever"

Cochrane: "Cool Imma plant a fig tree"

Senior crew: "Oh lol"
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