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Artymiss
Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 2:30am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Saints of Imperfection

@Karl Zimmerman

"no one is forcing them to jam pack plot into every single second"

I agree with you. It's really odd for a serialized TV drama to have such a lack of interest/patience in character development. I can't care about characters who I know very little about. Why should I? I don't give a damn about Culber for example - what do we actually know about him apart from he's a Dr and likes opera and is in a relationship with Stammets and got his neck snapped by Tyler (a really offensive scene actually, just put there for cheap shock value). And what do we know about Stammets? Again very little and how many episodes has he been around for?! There's been no interest in establishing back story for anyone except Michael and to a lesser extent Saru. So much back story on one character (Michael) to try and force us to care about her. The only character I care about is Saru and I suspect this is down to Doug Jones's performance rather than the scripts.

Do the writers actually understand character development eg allowing the bridge crew to speak in this season is not character development!

I have wondered if it relates to lack of confidence on behalf of the creators ie if we don't cram this episode full of flash bang wallop action people will get bored!!! and STOP WATCHING and be rude about us on social media!!! etc etc etc They always seem so pleased with themselves though so maybe it's actually arrogance rather than lack of confidence...

(Why does Discovery have so many producers and executive producers? Every time I look at the opening credits I'm astonished by all the names tagged with producer rolling past. Is this normal in TV these days?)
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Artymiss
Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 1:18pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Saints of Imperfection

That was awful. I absolutely hated the Culber rebirth nonsense. I found it almost offensive because it's such a lie. Our loved ones die, it's incredibly painful, we may never really get over it, we do not get a second chance with them, they don't spring back to life via some slimy cocoon, and I would prefer personally for the Stammets storyline to reflect that. I'm taking it all far too seriously I know! I wish I could just find it laughably bad (which it certainly was).

@MadMan
Yeah I was half wondering if we'd see Barbara! This episode was so ridiculous that why not?! I'm afraid May will be back at some point due to the pinkie promise thing. She'll be able to get back via Culber because *insert wild techobabble here*.




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Artymiss
Sun, Feb 10, 2019, 12:07pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: An Obol for Charon

@Brian T

Saru as "Discovery's answer to Spock". Personally I think of him as Discovery's answer to Odo!
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Artymiss
Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 12:57pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: An Obol for Charon

Enjoyed that although the scenes in Engineering were seriously peculiar. I like Reno but then I like Dr Pulaski. Stammets has really felt underused this season in contrast to the last, maybe he'll leave early for the Vulcan Science Academy?

Brilliant performance by Doug Jones. He genuinely had me worrying they were going to kill him off! Logic told me no way would they do that, but his performance was so powerful I started to think bloody hell, no!!!, they're really going to kill him the bastards!!!

Loved Saru's tart "I do have eyes and ears Burnham!"

@MadManMUC

So I didn't mishear! The guy with the lizard head is really called...Linus. Where did that character suddenly spring from and why bother when they could've actually spent the screen time developing one of the original bridge crew's characters! Agh, frustrating! I think Linus took a wrong turning on his way to The Orville.

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Artymiss
Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 9:00am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

How many episodes will there be in this 2nd season, does anyone know?
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Artymiss
Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 8:01am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

@Yanks


I don't get a preview on Netflix in the UK so it was all exciting news to me.

I'm hoping she takes over as ship Dr and becomes a regular (I know her speciality is engineering but they seemed keen to establish her medical skills at her first appearance).
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Artymiss
Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 3:40am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

I've just read in the Star Trek facebook thing that Tig is back next episode. Hurrah!
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Artymiss
Mon, Feb 4, 2019, 7:30am (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Nothing Left on Earth Excepting Fishes

I really enjoyed that episode, 3 stars. I found the use of the Billy Joel at the end oddly moving.

I hope we see Teleya again, she's far more interesting as a Krill than a human too (I found the cartographer character really dull and passive - now I know why! It was all a ploy to draw the broken hearted Ed in).
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Artymiss
Sun, Feb 3, 2019, 1:32pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Home

A very enjoyable episode.

Loved seeing the two Drs. And when it all suddenly turned nasty I was reminded that I always did find Dr Phlox, much as I liked him, a tiny bit...disturbing.
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Artymiss
Sun, Feb 3, 2019, 2:25am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

I like Tilly but find it hard to square the dizziness and nerviness of Tilly with someone who's supposedly bright, self-confident, assertive and disciplined enough to be Captain material. I even find it hard to believe she's as intelligent as the script writers want me to believe because they spend too much time establishing that she's a bit goofy. And then suddenly when the plot calls for it she springs into hyper-intelligence and saves the day.

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Artymiss
Sat, Feb 2, 2019, 11:55am (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: A Happy Refrain

I haven't watched this yet but that moustache is the funniest thing I've seen all week. Thanks for posting the picture!
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Artymiss
Sat, Feb 2, 2019, 8:55am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

@stargazer

Oh and IF (and I'm not sure they do) the comments revolve around female characters it's quite likely that this is because most of the plot focuses on the female characters. And these characters and actors aren't perfect therefore they get criticised. I don't see this pattern of racism and sexism you claim infects the comments section - please give us examples to back your claim up rather than making sweeping generalizations.
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Artymiss
Sat, Feb 2, 2019, 8:43am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

@stargazer

Why not post a positive review and tell us why you rate this episode? What are the rest of us missing?

Is it only okay for us to comment on Discovery to say: Discovery is brilliant, I love it!!! It's brilliant, everything about it is brilliant!!! And all the actors are wonderful! I loved this week's episode, it was brilliant!

I want to like Discovery I really do, I want it to be the best it can possibly be, I think it has lots of potential and so get frustrated when I'm presented with a mess like this week's episode.



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Artymiss
Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 2:42pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

Oh for an edit button!

Correction - 'our critical faculties'
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Artymiss
Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 2:39pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

@Chrome

Wait, A Night in Sickbay was censored?! How, why?!

(Yes the decapitated heads were very cartoonish, the baby in particular was fake looking. I find Discovery usually treads just on the right side of acceptable in what it shows for me at least. I'm notoriously squeamish and slightly prudish and it seems okay to me. The only thing I took exception to seeing was the snapping of poor Hugh's neck).
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Artymiss
Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 2:28pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

@HaightAsh

Okay then, you go ahead and tell us in what ways this episode is so wonderful and prove to the rest of us just why are critical faculties are so faulty and 'condescending'. Write a review and convince us of what we missed. Why did you think it was good?
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Artymiss
Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 12:56pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

@Yanks

Yes it ending there took me by surprise. It was very abrupt. To be honest I was actually glad it was over but I was expecting them to cut back to Engineering and Stammets and Tilly first but...no. Bizarre and terrible script.

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Artymiss
Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 9:52am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

@MadManMUC

A ghost Culber with Stammet at all times...! That reminds me of a UK show from the 1960s/70s Randall and Hopkirk, Deceased.
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Artymiss
Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 9:49am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

@MadManMUC

Yep, of course the fungi thing is going to magically evolve into 'Hugh' mark 2... I should've seen that coming! I hope the second version of Hugh shows a bit more personality than the original did...
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Artymiss
Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 8:54am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

I usually defend Discovery but I can't defend that episode. It was poor. Far too much crammed into one episode. I was left feeling a bit dizzy, and disappointed. Hopefully now they've got all that exposition out of the way we can move on to more focused episodes - but why do we have to have all of that exposition stuffed into one episode like that???

Mae wanted to speak to Stammets who she describes as the real Captain, shouldn't Tilly have asked why? I was finding that episode strand the strongest until it descended into Ghostbuster type activities.

@Karl Z
Yes all of that Klingon stuff was literally just about getting Tyler off Qonos plus reintroducing Georgiou. And showing that the Klingons are now growing their hair...
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Artymiss
Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 3:52am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: New Eden

Are the 'Red Angels' making anyone else think of the Vorlons in Babylon 5? Enigmatic, mysterious motives, ancient, wings and a cross between angel//demon in appearance...
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Artymiss
Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 1:11pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: New Eden

@Burn 'em' up

It was me who commented stunned that you'd read the post three times. Unfortunately (?) there's no edit button in the comments here so whatever's posted stays there unless Jammer deletes it. Which I don't think he would unless it was obscene which it isn't. It's just @Gil's opinion at the end of the day and he's entitled to it even if I couldn't face reading it! I sympathize with him actually as I don't think he was being misogynistic, I think if Tilly was male he'd still have used the term 'chubby' as a descriptor.


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Artymiss
Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 9:25am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: New Eden

@Tim C

Ah Counterpoint! My favourite ever Star Trek episode.

I don't think Discovery has got (yet?) the self-confidence (or even the desire) to produce such a thoughtful, character driven episode. I enjoy Discovery but find it all very flash bang wallop.

@Burn 'em' up
You read that three times!?
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artymiss
Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 2:55pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: New Eden

Re Michael 'Mary Sue' Burnham. I actually stood up for her last Season in the comments but only two episodes in this Season and I don't know why I did. Her sheer wonderousness and brilliance at everything, the way all the other characters defer to her over everything is really getting on my nerves!!! (her sheer amazingness is so extreme it's almost starting to seem like a parody). No wonder Spock hasn't spoken to her for years...
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artymiss
Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 2:43pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: New Eden

@wolfstar

I found MU Georgiou vile and don't personally view her character as "sassy, awesome and badass", no idea if that was what the writers intended but they failed with me! I'm interested to discover what Mirror Universe Georgiou becomes though in the Prime Universe. Will she change, is she redeemable, will she be interested in the PU Georgiou and become more like her, what will her relationship be with Federation values...

Discovery is so plot and event driven that it doesn't really give its characters much space to develop and, apart from Saru (and I think this is down to the actor rather than the scripts) it's been hard for me to care about them. I don't know how much this can be put down to a lack of confidence in the creators (or their lack of faith in their audience), it's a sort of 'we've got to make as much happen as we possibly can because otherwise people will get bored and won't watch!!!' hysteria.




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