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Tidd
Wed, Aug 4, 2021, 2:36am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

4 stars, or more if I could.

No real comments to add to what is arguably the best episode ever… except to say to some of the nitpicking above, “Hey, it’s a TV show! You have to have the regular cast even if their presence is questionable in an alternate timeline.”

Great Trek, great sci-fi.
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Eric S
Wed, Aug 4, 2021, 12:10am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Counterpoint

They messed up on this. During the last scene, the telepaths are seen leaving by shuttle, however, where is Tuvok and Vorik? Wouldn’t they have been detecting if they were beamed out? Or they went through the wormhole with the other telepaths?
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Zicard
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 11:39pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary

Klingon - a racist stereotype of black people. Moclan - a racist stereotype of black people. Trend ?
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O’Brien
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 7:52pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Genesis

One thing stands out for me in this episode that solidify Riker as being the absolute worst Star Trek crew member *of all time*:

While testing the new proton torpedos at the start of the episode (prior to any outbreak), one veers of course. Riker orders Worf to destroy it with phasers, to which Worf replies he cannot as the torpedo is out of range. Riker, second in command to the Federation’s flagship vessel, responds with unwarranted sarcasm to Worf, “even for your ‘newly improved’ phasers?”

Now look here you little shit: Worf is not your enemy, nor did he design the prototype weapons the Federation sent to you to test. You are second in command - act like it you fucking ass.

Riker is the absolute worst.
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Nesendrea
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 5:28pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Nemesis

Better than the study in moral autism that was “Insurrection,” but that’s a pretty low bar.

Looking back, I think that what I liked about “Nemesis” were the few nods to continuity that it managed (especially considering how much continuity it chucked right out the window.) As poorly handled as it was, there’s a fanboy part of me that wouldn’t have been happy if Will and Deanna hadn’t ended up together, after their “imzadi” relationship was barely touched over the entire course of TNG. I liked that the Betazoid nudist weddings weren’t forgotten. And of course, Riker absolutely has to finally have his own ship.

Mind you, the reasons for these things not happening in the series aren’t addressed. We don’t hear anything about Will and Deanna reluctantly refusing to be together like that because it would be awkward while they serve on the same ship. And Riker wouldn’t take his own command because whatever ship they could offer him, “She’s not the Enterprise.” I guess all of that was left behind? But no matter, at least it got done.

I guess it says something that I’ve only spoken well of the character moments, and haven’t said anything kind about the story itself. There’s just not that much to praise. It was fun as an action-heavy popcorn movie, but that’s all it really tried to be, and I think that’s sad for the crew’s swan song. Even worse is that, again, so much continuity was sacrificed for that, along with Picard’s character and Data’s life. I guess I’m just left feeling that it wasn’t worth it.

Ah well. It was what it was. And, writing this comment in 2021, we now have further Star Trek properties, including “Picard” which continues the story for at least some of our beloved characters. So “Nemesis” wasn’t the absolute finale, as it was assumed to be at the time. Based on the reviews I’ve seen here, I imagine most of us can agree that’s, at least, a good thing.
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Booming
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 4:12pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Hunted

I don't think you missed something, it's more like added something. She only said "it matters"
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Luke
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 3:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Hunted

Luke: “ I fail to see how that matters.”

Tidd: “ If you wish to talk about Brexit (I don’t, particularly) then - oh, it matters.”

If that isn’t “you can’t talk about it unless you live here and are affected by it”, then I must have missed something.
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GG
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 3:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Blink of an Eye

I thought it'd be interesting to make some time calculations based on the events in the show. Seven says 1 second that passes on the ship, 1 day passes on the planet.

The doctor was gone about 3 years. So aboard the ship they spent about 18 minutes trying to get him back.

When the doctor stops Goetana-Retz in the hallway, instead of speedily escorting him to his ship, to ask him to look up his son, that takes 20 seconds, or halted him getting home for almost 3 weeks while Voyager was being assailed from the surface. I always wondered why no one had the anxiety of time passing so quickly while he was there since getting him back as soon as possible would be best for him.

Goetana-Retz gets on the radio and the woman says the frequency hasn't been used by the space agency in 50 years. If the space agency abandoned that frequency soon after his flight to Voyager, he was on Voyager for about 5 hours.

Now assuming a lot of things like this civilization progressed like ours and Voyager arrived in what looks like what could be 2000 years ago in our history and then going from those primitive dwellings to going into space, Voyager was above the planet for about 8.3 days.

And Chacotay is pretty much right when someone says Goetana should've been back home for 10 minutes and he says that's about an year and a half.

I could be off on some of these. I was just curious to see how the writers handled the time and it seemed like they did a pretty good job. I just think the changing of the season was too fast and I didn't even bother with the intervals between shellings from the surface.
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Booming
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 3:24pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Hunted

"And Tidd apparently agrees with me. Because Tidd, just hours before telling me that I have to live in the UK to discuss Brexit,opined in the TNG: "The High Ground" comments about Israeli/Palestinian politics (by responding to a more than seven-year-old comment about it) even though Tidd does not live there."

Is that the written equivalent of a jedi mind trick?! A mental finger trap?! She agrees and she doesn't agree??!

She never said that you cannot discuss it, she only said that it can be important where you live. Yeah this must be in bad faith.
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Top Hat
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 3:04pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Hunted

This is obviously in bad faith. Todd’s mistake was not simply ignoring a belligerent twerp who reports his belligerent bad faith nonsense like he’s proud of it.
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Luke
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 2:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Hunted

All right. Here's my answer....

Where I live is irrelevant. It doesn't matter what nationality I am. Because as a rational, intelligent, adult Human Being I'm capable of discussing (and having opinions on) Brexit even if I don't live in the UK.

And Tidd apparently agrees with me. Because Tidd, just hours before telling me that I have to live in the UK to discuss Brexit, opined in the TNG: "The High Ground" comments about Israeli/Palestinian politics (by responding to a more than seven-year-old comment about it) even though Tidd does not live there.

So, I'll go back to my original thought.... "Democracy sure is a bitch when people actually have the audacity to disagree with you. Isn’t it?" How about we discuss that instead of moving the goalposts to discuss our nationalities?
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Peter G.
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 1:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Prodigal Daughter

@ Paul,

"The writers of this episode obviously don't know the meaning of the word prodigal."

I think you have to take seriously the episode's premise to see why they thought the term applied to Ezri. What I think they mean to say is that from the perspective of Ezri's narcissistic, dysfunctional mother, Ezri ran off to pursue selfish things and leave the family in the lurch when they needed her for the family business. Apparently since she left everything's been falling apart. and since her mother naturally blames her for it, that makes her the prodigal daughter from a wrong POV. Certainly not from ours. So that alone muddies what they're even trying to say. But even worse, it's not even clear what the family thinks about Starfleet or whether they supported her or opposed her going, or what the heck is happening. Why did she even join Starfleet? We don't know. Unlike with Spock and Sarek, we aren't treated to any backstory about the origin of this conflict. It's just not a very good episode for the most part (I can barely bring myself to watch it), but the title at least gives a hint at what they were trying to write.
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Paul
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 1:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Prodigal Daughter

The writers of this episode obviously don't know the meaning of the word prodigal. Obviously, they must have heard the story of the prodigal son and assumed, as many people do, that the word prodigal means "returned", but it actually means "wasteful" or "extravagant", which has absolutely nothing to do with this episode.
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Rahul
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 12:14pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S1: Dax

@Silly

I can understand why DS9 would put a ton of emphasis on Ezri at the start of S7 as we've got a new character etc. and I wasn't a fan of it. But I don't really feel early DS9 put an excessive amount of emphasis on Jadzia. What I think DS9 had to do was to flesh out the whole Trill host/symbiont thing which TNG basically just introduced. As a character, I feel Jadzia was given less "air time" than Sisko, Kira, Odo and maybe even O'Brien in the early going -- and rightly so. Even this episode "Dax" is less about Jadzia than it is about hosts/symbionts. From what I remember, there's actually very little Jadzia does in this episode.

Jadzia was a well-conceived character and there was some potential with host/symbionts to tell some interesting stories (like this episode IMHO) but the actress Farrell wasn't good enough to make the "Trill episodes" stand out. In fact, I'd say the "Trill episodes" as a DS9 theme are generally mediocre and could even have been omitted except for the fact that the show needed to fill 7 seasons of like 26 episodes each.
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Mal
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 9:41am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Hunted

@Luke asked, "So unless something directly affects me personally, I can't talk about it?"

Yes @Luke, those are the rules.

Everything has to be about your "journey" and your "lived experience." Kindly comply with @Boomings requirements, or you will not be permitted to opine on these matters any further.

Thank you for sharing your "truth",

https://youtu.be/Pw2sex1mJNI
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Silly
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 8:54am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S1: Dax

I'm glad to see some of the later commenters didn't much care for it, because I certainly don't. I think this episode is so badly flawed that 1.5 stars is being generous.

Back when season 7 first aired, it was hampered by far far far too much focus on Ezri Dax. But early DS9 was also vastly overly focused on Dax!


In seasons 1 and 2, It seems like the production assumed Dax would be the breakout character and practically acted like Jadzia was the star of the show. But that never happened. I doubt it ever would have happened, but rolling out these deep Dax backstory episodes BEFORE the current character was even established certainly didn't help.

Would TNG Measure of a Man have been so compelling if it was one of the first few episodes, before we got to know and like Data?

Note that the very Spock-centric Amok Tine and Journey to Babel came about AFTER and BECAUSE Spock was a hit.

Probably this episode should get a little leeway for its clunkiness because it's a very early one before the show got its sea legs. But that doesn't fully absolve it because the extreme doting on Dax was quite deliberate.
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Contumacious
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 6:30am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: The Way to Eden

Adam reminds me of a live action version of Beavis from Beavis and Butthead.
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jillyenator
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 5:04am (UTC -5)
Re: LD S1: Much Ado About Boimler

Isn't the farm where we tell our children that we brought their dogs too? You know...the farm..where they can run and play in our minds, but they adults meant the kill-shelters. It becomes fridge logic when one grows old enough to understand.

Nice to have it turn out like a Risan pleasure planet.
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jillyenator
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 4:55am (UTC -5)
Re: MAND S2: Chapter 10: The Passenger

Besides the obvious riff on aliens, we also get a bit of Harry Potter's Chamber of Secrets. Ick ick ick! In the best way.

I was suitably horrified that The Child kept slurping up the precious eggs, but also couldn't stop laughing over it. Each time he slurped one down I had to crack up.

In the next two eps the kid continues to eat things that either aren't his or that are...um...still moving. (Ghagh is best when served live.) Growing kid's gotta grow!
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Tidd
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 3:28am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: A Matter of Perspective

Angela Lansbury: “When they first pitched this story, I said that I wasn’t prepared to be in it. I told them several times that Murder, She Wrote is NOT a sci-fi show. Eventually they listened and told me they would offer it to Star Trek instead (though they didn’t believe it would be taken up). The show itself? I can’t comment I’m afraid.”

The opening sequence of the art class was by far the best thing in it.

2 stars.
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Booming
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 2:40am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Hunted

Hey Luke how about giving an answer to move things along!
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Eric S
Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 12:30am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Infinite Regress

Lol whenever Tuvok or any Vulcan recommends a mind meld, we always get the usual protest from a doctor only for the meld to proceed anyways. Can we just skip the predictable protest?
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KP
Mon, Aug 2, 2021, 9:55pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Far Beyond the Stars

@Jeffrey -

That’s why it makes it even more profound his performance. I keep seeing a bunch of comments on how he was overacting and things - but if at some point, he stopped acting and it became real…it’s an even more poignant scene.

I have to watch the documentary now - I’d love to hear more about what the actors and actresses say now
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Silly
Mon, Aug 2, 2021, 9:18pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: Blood Oath

And I did not like AT ALL that Odo got so submissive to Koloth when Koloth says he's a Dahar Master. Koloth essentially threatens Odo.

First, why would Odo know much of anything about Klingons, especially those kinds of details. Maybe he gets a monthly security magazine? But that's minor, Odo could have learned.


The bigger problem is Who Freaking Cares? This is a Bajoran station and Odo is security chief. Is Koloth actually going to attack Odo?

This is just flat out of character for Odo. It's just sort of a variant on the Worf Effect. The script made Odo back down in submissive awe just to establish how Significant it is to be a Dahar Master. Never mind that there's another one in the drunk tank.

And maybe they should wear a Dahar Master belt or button or something?
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Silly
Mon, Aug 2, 2021, 8:55pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: Blood Oath

Meh, I've rewatched this, and when Jadzia gets into that Proud Serious Dax mode, it does not work for me at all. It's just all Really Serious Terse lines and staring. I just don't think the actress was able to bring this aspect of the character alive, and a whole episode of it is a chore to watch. I wasn't sure in Playing God, but here it seems clear in contrast with these veteran actors.

Also, it was well established that trill's aren't bound by past lives oaths, and the Klingons understand and honor that. I thought it would be better if Jadzia was just lying and her oath/honor talk was just a front while in reality she just secretly wanted revenge, perhaps for unstated reasons.

Probably the show wasn't ready to go that far with a Starfleet officer, but making it about honoring a past life's oath for dubious reasons makes this seem sort of like a misdemeanor, while if she was really after revenge, it gets a lot closer to flat out murder.


Still, with misgivings, it's very strong. Obviously it's a hoot to bring back these three old Klingons. And there was something hilariously retro 60s about calling their foe "the Albino."

Jadzia casually asking Kira what it's like killing someone was gold because of course Kira figures that out pretty darn quick.
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