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Other Chris
Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 2:24pm (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S2: Mirror, Mirror

Interesting to me that the mirror universe episode is one of the most progressive in TOS (I'm running through them in order for the first time). The Marlena character and Kirk's expression that she should want for more really impressed me, and I barely hear about them when this one is mentioned. A great hour in a middling batch.
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Chris
Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 9:05am (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary

"When Frakes directed the similar peripheral plot Insurrection 20 years ago, he made that film a comedy."

Huh? Don't understand this comment at all. It had a few comedic scenes but it was a straight drama for the most part. And the stakes were pretty high.

I have had major problems with the Orville from episode one and was continually asking myself why I continued to watch a show that annoyed me. I am glad I stuck with it. The 2nd half of season 2 has finally hit it's stride and I am actually looking forward to each episode.

This was another well written episode with very little distracting "humor." It presented the issues with some nuance and had a fairly realistic ending (there is no simple resolution to social problems).

3.5 for me.
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Yet Another Chris
Wed, Apr 3, 2019, 12:45pm (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S7: Homestead

I'll agree with Charles. It was depressing seeing Neelix take up residence on a dead rock for ever and all time. All the same, his send off was nicely done.

Along with others, I'd hated Neelix at the start. He looked like a Farscape character and definitely seemed to be the Jar Jar Binks of Trek. He came a long way, though; however, it should be said that part of the reason he stood out is because most of the other characters stepped backward (i.e. fell totally flat). But he wound up being a really likable character, and he deserved to see Earth more than most.
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Chris
Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 2:30pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity

Control Control Control??? April_Fools_Made_me_laugh Control Control CControl CControl
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Chris
Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 10:42pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity

@Tom R

"Does anyone also dislike how Star Trek, AGAIN, isn’t really Discovering anything outside its sphere?? It’s all self-contained. Besides for the great episode where we went to Saru’s homeworld, the universe seems so small. I thought the Red Angel would be an alien...kinda let down.

What’s the point of show? They aren’t discovering anything “out there.”

Yeah it's kind of a bummer that they went down this path; although this season is much better than season 1. Was really hoping they would start "seeking out new life and new civilizations", as cliched as that sounds. And the Universe does seem small, especially the Federation. I was really hoping with their big budget to see more cool space stuff like star bases, more ships, maybe some intense space battles / standoffs, and more unique space settings with unique ideas / moral quandaries waiting to be explored, etc.. Alas, while entertaining and enjoyable, we ended up with Star Trek: Burnham. I'll take it, but was really hoping for something with a bit more substance and imagination perhaps.
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Chris
Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 9:02pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions

So, I'm not going to over think this one. It was an enjoyable episode. The relationship between Gordon and Laura was sweet. The humor with Bortus (mostly) worked (could do without he and his partner always at each others throats). I'm going with 3/4 .... it wasn't an original premise and the stakes were low but I thought it was charming.
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Chrissy
Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 7:28pm (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S6: Memorial

She made the wrong decision. The monument planted memories in people that traumatized them, it was an assault. It should have been shut down, what if someone comes along and can't interpret the warning buoy, or it stops working? Janeway's decision was wrong.
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Chris
Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:26am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Project Daedalus

As a side, I always felt the future probe was from the red angel. Was I wrong to assume this?
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Chris
Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:22am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Project Daedalus

@ matthew: I think that's right.

However, I feel like this episode insinuates that it was Control that had her hacked, not the future probe. Did anyone else feel that way?
So, was Ariam compromised by the future probe? Or was she compromised by 'Control' / Section 31? Do we know for certain that the future probe is in fact part of Control? Am I just being dumb?

Either way, I found these last few episodes very entertaining with great writing and acting. Significant improvement over season 1. I just wish they would stop referring to it as the 'red angel' now that they know it's a humanoid from the future. Comes off as a bit cheesy especially when science should trump religion in the 23rd century. But then again, DS9 had lots of religious themes surrounding the prophets etc..

And as mentioned above, did Arium actually download her memories into Discovery's computer? I feel like there was a lot of 'downloading' going on over these past couple eps and didn't quite catch that...
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chris
Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 5:33pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Blood of Patriots

I know this is the internet but can we stick to critiquing the show and not one another?
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Chris
Sat, Mar 9, 2019, 8:04am (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Blood of Patriots

"I'm super forgiving of this show's warts; probably more than I should be. For example, they had me in this one the second I saw Mackenzie Astin. Totally sold by way of my first 80s fangirl crush. It's not that I don't see the flaws the rest of you do. It's that they don't really impact my enjoyment of the show. In another series they might but I'm pretty easy going on Seth MacFarlane's trek fanfic. It's exactly what I need it to be."

Totally get this! This is me and "Supergirl." I am somewhat hard on this show because I really want it to be better AND I think it has the potential to be better. I believe it would improve if Seth McFarlane would step back and do less. Let better writers take the characters and see what they can do. Lets face it, Gene Roddenberry created Trek BUT he also wrote some of the worst episodes.
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Chris
Thu, Mar 7, 2019, 9:02pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Blood of Patriots

Well, this week was a mess. Boring with some of the worst dialogue of the season. "Patriotism is only for people with large families" .... What does that even mean??? Lol. The boarding "requirements" scene for the krill (on the eve of a historic peace treaty) wasn't funny or clever .. it was just stupid. Malloys friend was horrible ... hard to care about the character when he portrayed him as an ass the entire episode. No follow-up on Isaac. The Krill were given nothing interesting to do. Just a misfire. 1.5/4.
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Chris
Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 9:05pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part II

A step down from Part 1 (which, admittedly, is true of most Trek 2 parters) but still ok. I know the space battle was supposed to be "epic" but there was so much going on it just kind of bored me. The effects, as usual, were pretty great. The episode just felt rushed. At one point I thought maybe it would be a 3 parter but instead they just crammed a ton of exposition and action scenes together and called it a day. Not sure if I want to give it a 2.5 or a 3.
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Chris
Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 3:11pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Point of Light

Two stars is really generous, I'd have given it a half at best. Terrible storytelling, terrible camerawork. Why all the haste? I hope the next episodes (I'm catching up) are more like the first two of season 2. I wouldn't mind never seeing a Discovery Klingon again ...
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Chris P
Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 11:32am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S3: Destiny

After reading the entire preceding discussion it feels awkward bringing up an issue I have with the plotting of the episode but this has been bothering me for a few days:

Clearly the Federation participants did not understand the full nature of the experiment. They put full trust in the most duplicitous race the Federation is aware of to perform a procedure on the sacred wormhole. Was Starfleet consulted on this or was this local diplomacy?

The pieces of a prophecy indicating destruction of the wormhole began falling into place. Legitimate concerns, since it was known that the wormhole aliens existed outside of linear time and had the means to communicate with Bajorans. Defiant arrived in the Gamma Quadrant and they saw a comet composed largely of a wormhole-killing substance. At this point Yarka's concerns should have been ringing alarms.

It is here that a decision was made: proceed or suspend. Proceed with the experiment of shooting a mystery beam at the mysterious wormhole. A beam created by a race of people who seem to almost religiously enjoy causing misery and chaos. Shoot this beam of theirs while a once in a trillion years wormhole-killing comet is RIGHT NEXT TO THE WORMHOLE...or suspend operations for a day to let it pass safely out of proximity.

So they launch the rocket during the worst hurricane in 100 years. They launch the boat from its drydock during low tide. They try to break the land speed record on a windy day. It predictably goes horribly and the Cardassians caused their chaos. But a clever Starfleet engineer has a solution! Alter the phaser cannons and eradicate the comet completely!

Sisko then ASSIGNS THE CARDASSIANS to help work on the modification.

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He didn't have them locked up. He didn't have them confined to quarters. He let them put their eyes and hands on Starfleet equipment (ostensibly classified or at least highly sensitive technology) and, when the time came to depart to attempt to shoot the comet, he......took them along. And it turned out the phaser cannons were sabotaged by one of the Cardassians.

In-universe I'm wondering why Sisko was not demoted from his position after this? It all worked out in the end but this kind of negligence was beyond any captain who ever grounded their boat or steered into an iceberg. Out of universe I'm wondering why the writers felt comfortable with this story but I'm also realizing I may be the tiny minority who is bothered by overt contrivance like this, especially from a show that had a busy schedule and probably lacked the time to really tighten things up.

But still. Fuck.
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chris
Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 9:05pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part I

Ok, this was, hands down, the best episode of the Orville. Reminded me a lot of the Voyager 2 part episodes back in the day that were always a cut above the regular series. This was a really good SCIENCE FICTION episode, with no forced humor to pull you out of the show. There were some drags on the show (especially the kid going down to the planet ... it was like the second coming of Boxey) but I have little to complain about. The visuals were excellent and the story moved along well. Hopefully next week will continue the quality. This was a 3.5/4 for me!
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Chris
Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 6:27pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Deflectors

Did no one else notice that the code the security officer used was 1701? Overall I thought this was a pretty good episode .... no forced humor and the "mystery" kept me engaged. Kelly's break up was fairly blah but I was never invested in it one way or the other so I didn't really care.
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Chris
Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 1:20pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Deflectors

"This is literally groundbreaking television"

LMAO
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Chris
Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 12:31pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: A Happy Refrain

Probably the best episode this season. I give them props for not throwing in an action sequence and just letting the episode breathe. I even laughed out loud at one scene (flipping the table over). Character driven with humor that (generally) added to the scenes as opposed to pulling you out of the scene. 3/4 for me.
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Chris
Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 9:04pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: All the World Is Birthday Cake

So I was actually excited for the first few minutes tonight ... the idea of a "first contact" and the reaction of the crew was a great opening. But then it quickly went downhill. Why would they go to a new planet without doing ANY research? I don't know, maybe I am expecting too much from the show. As always the characters are likable and something keeps me watching the show but I thought this episode was a 2/4 at best. Interesting ideas were squandered and the solution to the problem simply didn't ring true in the slightest. Next weeks looks like it could be fun.
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Chris
Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 9:08pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Nothing Left on Earth Excepting Fishes

I give it 2/4. The romance angle didn't land at all for me. Maybe if they spent a few episodes building it up but I wasn't invested in it at all. The pacing wasn't great either .. kind of boring. On the plus side, the effects continue to be top notch and the characters are (generally) likable.
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Chris Taylor
Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 5:48pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Home

While I appreciate that the show was more tonally consistent (which made the scene with the new alien crew member more jarring) this episode was pretty boring. I do appreciate that it was a character driven episode but it really drug the first 30 minutes. It was a general improvement over many episodes so I am cautiously optimistic season 2 will be an improvement over season 1.
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Chris
Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 10:52pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: Brothers

I'm surprised no one has noted the obvious parallel of this story with the Biblical tale of Jacob, Esau, and the stolen birthright. Dr. Soong even says "Esau" when he realizes that he just put the chip in Lore. Maybe it was so obvious that no one else thought it needed to be acknowledged, or maybe I some of you should have paid closer attention in Sunday School. ;) Either way, I thought it was an interesting aspect of the story.
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Chris Taylor
Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 8:18pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Ja'loja

So ..... that was ... something.
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Yet Another Chris
Fri, Dec 28, 2018, 3:17pm (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S6: Good Shepherd

As with most episodes of Voyager, this one had potential that it failed live up to it. There need to be more characters who dislike and disapprove of Janeway. She's a smug and dangerous leader, and there ought to be at least a few people who are short with her, if not staging outright mutinies. I thought Mortimer would be that person, but no luck because, you know, Janeway has to come out smelling like roses.

Every potentially adversarial character is either dispensed with immediately, or else their character is inexplicably made tame from one episode to the next. I think this partly explains some people's love of Janeway. It's not because she's a good or interesting character, but because that the writers created the illusion that she's a sound leader by removing any sensible voice of opposition.

That said, I did appreciate that she gave Mortimer the room he needed to dislike her and even to be insubordinate. I just didn't care for her savior complex.
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