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Tomalak
Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 6:44am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

Booming, two weeks ago you pledged to avoid in future the personal arguments that have swamped so many other threads on this forum, and always seemed to involve you. I wondered how it's working out so far?
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Tomalak
Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 6:39am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S1: Past Prologue

I thought it was good to have the Duras sisters along. But I found it questionable that they made such a fuss about handing over their weapons, even reacting physically. If they had an ounce of sense they would have kept a low profile while trying to conduct nefarious deals, as criminals try to. Instead, their actions immediately lead to a discussion between Sisko and Odo about whether they should be locked up right away - and it's easy to see how Sisko and Odo could have justified it given their attack on the security officer. Maybe they're just meant to be dumb villains, lacking self-control, but that they would have risen so high while being so dumb is itself questionable.
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Tommy D.
Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 12:13am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

@Booming

"Three questions. Why do you think that? Why do you find that odd? And why does that not surprise you?"

I want to answer this, but my work schedule is kicking my behind. I will try this weekend.
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Tomalak
Thu, Dec 3, 2020, 1:05pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: Unification

"I wonder how much better the encounter could've been if it were Tomalak instead of Sela. It's disappointing that he didn't resurface during seasons 4-6."

I couldn't agree more. Such a waste.
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Tomalak
Thu, Dec 3, 2020, 7:15am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

The fact Space Jesus (arguably?) cries a lot is the least of the character's/show's problems I would say. She's a superhero movie protagonist dropped into the Star Trek universe and it doesn't work.
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Tom
Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 7:59pm (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S2: Precious Cargo

So you just avoid anything you don't like or approve of? I would have thought those episodes, if nothing else, would serve as good opportunities to forgive. Or do JWs skip that part of Jesus's teachings?

In reply to what you said earlier about profiting from morality, I wasn't talking about JWs because I don't know much about them. But certainly, there was a lot to profit from by espousing, dogmatizing and enforcing moral codes in the past. The Israelites at various times thought that they were out of favor with God and that being good and moral and doing His 'will' would get Him back on their side, to deliver them a savior, return their homeland, banish the Roman occupation etc...

The idea that God takes sides continues today in various forms, and with what you are preaching about the wicked being destroyed while the good (you) being saved.
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Tom
Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 4:53am (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S2: Precious Cargo

I agree. Except not everyone agrees that the information you are referring to is reliable. I've met quite a few people who claim to commune with the Holy Spirit or Jesus every day, and what they hear is never about the bad people being destroyed or about immoral sex. And while I can't verify their accounts either, I'd listen to them over believing a 2000 year old account of God's word hasn't been corrupted by the many hands of authority and unreliable witnesses it has passed through. Because what better way to control people than doing exactly that?
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Tom
Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 4:32am (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S2: Precious Cargo

@Sean

Those links didn't address my question at all, as far as I can tell.

So let's consider a scenario instead. Let's say God is up there thinking, I'd like to give the world a new message. More information.

There's literally no way He could get His message through, because you would consider it contradictory to a 2000 year old book. It must be in the Bible or it can't be from God. There is literally no way for Him to give you new information.

If I were a follower of the Vedas, or Bhagavad Gita (also considered the word of God) and I took that same approach (which many do) that only these texts are the word of God and nothing else, it would follow that I could not accept the Bible as God's word. I can't see that your approach is any different.
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Tom
Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 2:44am (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S2: Precious Cargo

Are Matthew, Mark Luke and John not men, Sean? How do you know they're speaking God's words and not the serpent's?
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Tommy D.
Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 12:08am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

@dave

Personally, I prefer that the writers don't write for "us". Writing for "us" eventually sank the Trek ship the first time.

@Booming

TWD best season is 2. Yes. Darabont's vision :)

@Skye Francis-maidstone

"People often rip DSC a new one then end with 2 out of 4 stars. Rather odd."

Criticism is probably the cheapest and most effective commodity on the Internet. I think people are actually more uncomfortable with pointing out things they liked vs being critical, which I find somewhat odd, but not unsurprising.
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Tom
Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 10:33pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

I think the difference between DSC and the older incarnations like TOS, TNG and DS9 is the shift away from any pretense of intellectualism, towards emotional impact. For better or worse, in TOS or TNG this episode (a typical "trial" setting) would have hinged upon certain issues which are solved in a rational, logical and impersonal way.

Here, there is talk ABOUT logic with very little of it employed in the trial. The situation is resolved because essentially the Vulcans/Romulans resonate emotionally with Michael's plight. Whether this is intentional to cater to more modern tastes or a matter of the writers not having the skill to navigate intellectual issues, I do not know.

However, the producers/writers are mistaken if they equate the intellectualism of past Treks with lack of emotional resonance or accessibility to modern audiences.
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Tommy D.
Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 4:41pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

@MidshipmanNorris

I should have written that I'm very familiar with Metal Gear, its probably one of my favorite franchises in gaming. I used to have every series 1 McFarlane figure (and all variants) and I think I still have close to the full set of comics from IDW.

I have the MSX version on multiple platforms, I was just curious as to whether the fan version you had played was more of a "definitive" sort.
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Tomalak
Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 10:22am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

Pro tip for the Discovery writers. The word momentarily means "for a moment" not "in a moment", as they apparently think. If I momentarily distract you it means that I do it for a second or so, not that I will do it in a second or so from now.
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Tommy D.
Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 12:32am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

@MidshipmanNorris

"I just finished replaying a certain fan-translated version of Metal Gear for the MSX"

Off topic but I'm curious about this if you don't mind sharing.
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Tommy D.
Fri, Nov 27, 2020, 5:58pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

@Booming

At the very least, Tilly is an actual Starfleet officer, who has been through the academy and has at least some training. Wesley Crusher has little to none, and yet is on screen engaging evasive maneuvers vs. The Borg and towards the end being asked to engage a suicide maneuver. This is on a Galaxy class ship with likely hundreds of officers. Being the lowest officer on the bridge is still being considered in the top 1% of crew members. Its very silly in retrospect, even though it takes nothing away from the enjoyment of the story or episode.

That said, Tilly wouldn't be my number one choice either, I'm just not going to do any hand wringing over it in a a universe where the plot dictates these actions more than logic.
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Tommy D.
Fri, Nov 27, 2020, 4:46pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

I wont be too torn up about Saru choosing Tilly as a temporary XO as this is the same universe in which Wesley Crusher is at the helm during wartime in BOBW, on the flagship of the Federation no less.

I'm guessing most often it would have been Nhan chosen, if she were still aboard.

As for the episode, another 2.5 stars. I feel like they've hit a slight rut in the middle here and gone back to some old habits.
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Tommy D.
Fri, Nov 27, 2020, 2:41am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Scavengers

I have to agree with Jammers 2.5 stars. I really enjoyed this episode to a point, then it kind of fell flat for me. And I have to admit I rolled my eyes at the kiss in the turbolift scene.

Also, I don't know much about reshoots or film editing, but on first view the conversation that Booker and the Andorian are having in the scrapyard while crouched behind cover looks awkward towards the end.
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Tommy D.
Fri, Nov 27, 2020, 12:59am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Scavengers

FWIW, Wikipedia has filming of season 3 as running 8 months, from July 2019 to February 2020. This is in line with seasons 1 and 2, whose filming ran 10 and 8 months, respectively.
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Tom
Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 5:39pm (UTC -6)
Re: MAND S2: Chapter 9: The Marshal

If you sit through the end credits it's no surprise the VFX are so good... the team is utterly enormous! And yet it also surpasses Discovery on the music and story levels, which are not just matters of having a huge team. Throwing money at something doesn't hurt, but I suppose talent is important too.
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Tom
Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 5:34pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Scavengers

"I really hope that The Burn is not a kind of mythological short for Burnham .... "

It's looking that way. They'll go to the epicenter of the event, where there's an alien race who have a scrap of her angel suit with the first half of her nametag... mystery solved. Thank you Robert Wise!
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Tomalak
Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 7:32am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Die Trying

@Omi, while I agree with your post, Booming has made clear above his intention to behave differently in future. So I suggest we not dredge up past behaviour - even from yesterday. What matters now is whether future discussions get derailed.
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Tomalak
Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 2:29pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Die Trying

I think we need an unwritten rule that if someone could read your whole post here and still not know you were discussing a Star Trek episode, or at least the wider Star Trek universe, then - whoever started it! - it's gone way off topic and it's time to bring it back on topic. There is nothing really wrong with arguing about Star Trek here. The problem is if the Star Trek discussion gets entirely lost.
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Tomalak
Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 12:12pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Die Trying

"Though I'd worry more about the possibility that the endless arguments will simply make the interesting stuff near-impossible to find."

True! But I think this is the key point: "There’s one person who is always involved in any argument on here. I suggest not replying more than once or twice (or none) and just dropping it when that person is clearly wanting to argue and planting obvious comments to stir the pot"

To the present and future reader who wants to avoid the thousands of words of not very important or relevant debate, just skip past the posts by Booming and replies to him.

But it does take two to tango. If some idiot accuses you of white supremacy for no reason, just ignore him rather than get in a 50 post debate, especially if you know he has done this at the drop of a hat to lots of others.

And as someone said last week, this probably wouldn't be happening if Discovery episodes weren't so forgettable. They leave discerning viewers with almost nothing to say, so even obvious trolls/fanatics like Booming suddenly seem worth the effort.
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Tommy D.
Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 8:41pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Die Trying

@Quincy

Spot on.

And 3 stars for the episode.

Carry on.
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Tomalak
Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 8:04pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: Die Trying

I honestly don't think I could bear to watch this show but for the enjoyment of seeing discerning fans rip it apart on this web site. If Jammer falls under the proverbial bus, presumably ending the comments here, will stop watching. It actually had its moments in Season 1, and Lorca was for some of his time a fantastic Captain. I hated Season 2 and this season seems just as passable.
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