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Hold_On_To_Your_Butts
Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 5:31pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity

I_have_a_bad_feeling_about_this Hi Mom
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RandomThoughts
Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:27am (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S1: The Man Trap

Hello Everyone!

@Springy

I'd seen a post of yours at the beginning of a comment thread, and realized you were doing a TOS view after DS9. I haven't looked lately, but I hope you are continuing.

I'd started to watch Trek around '77, after Star Wars got me hooked, and it was on every day at 4pm. :). I even audio recorded them, and in later years could tell folks where they had removed lines for more commercials. I figure I started to watch them around the same time as you did.

I am looking forward to your reviews...

Regards... RT
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RandomThoughts
Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:18am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S5: Nor the Battle to the Strong

Hello Everyone!

@Sharon M

I think I understand what you are getting at, but in a different way/reversed.

Red Dawn came out when I was in High School, and I think I can speak for all of my friends when I say we thought we'd be able to start a resistance, forgetting about the deprivations of war and whatnot (and huge bombs that can wipe out an entire group). Even when this episode aired, I was probably still in the same category.

But after seeing this one back in the day, I realized I probably would have been scared shirtless, just like Jake.

In a way, it hit me over the head to remind me of the realities of war, and sometimes we aren't as brave in reality as we think we might be.

Regards... RT
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RandomThoughts
Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 1:48am (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part II

Hello Everyone!

I'm still going through the comments on this one after my last comment. Just following the stream...

In the episode where Isaac is protecting the children after the shuttle crash, he uses a hand-held weapon (I think he even has a holster). Did he not want them to know he could do head-shots? They were in quite a bit of danger, and using his head cannon and sidearm together would have been most helpful, I'd think. :)

Upon more reflection, I (and others) have mentioned it was weird to give an advanced robot-race access to a Union ship when they knew next-to-nothing about them. But, the Union did not put Isaac on the Flagship, instead he's on a somewhat star-mule, 2nd-tier ship. Perhaps they were indeed a bit leery. And if Isaac hadn't been on a Union ship (to shut down when they thought they had enough information), the Kaylon might have launched an even more surprise attack (albeit, at a time further in the future). Because the Orville could get a signal out to Earth, they had time to get a limited fleet back to attempt to protect it. Otherwise... no warning and Poof! The Union could not have known that it would work out that way, of course, but maybe they were indeed trying to be smart about Isaac...

My last thought is about finding out they do all the scripts before shooting. Perhaps the reason why a few episodes seem stilted, or a bit out of kilter, is they shoehorn something into a mostly finished episode and the pacing is just off because of it. I do like they film the scripts that way, but it could explain how some episodes just don't seem to flow like they should (as others have mentioned in previous episodes).

Enjoy the day Everyone... RT
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RandomThoughts
Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 11:41pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S1: The Arsenal of Freedom

Hello Everyone!

@Markus

That is an interesting take, where they changed their definition of counselor. I hadn't thought of it that way. If that is the case, they might have done it to give her more to do than just be on the bridge telling the Captain what her impressions were. Also, Yar was supposed to be the, for want of a better term, babe of the show, and after she left, they wanted to spruce up Troi a bit and, once again, get her more screen time.

Thanks for the thoughts... RT
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RandomThoughts
Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 3:23am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S6: Schisms

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@borusa

Would that be the short court scene where the great-something grandchild of a human was suing the great-something grandchild of (what was obviously) a gray for abducting his ancestor? Loved that :).

Oh, for everyone else, B5 reference. :)

Regards... RT
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RandomThoughts
Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 11:34pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions

Hello again, Everyone!

Please forgive my 2nd post so soon, but I was just reading a comment about how the holodeck in TNG had sitting folks end up standing when the program ended. I, once again, laughed out loud when he was in the simulator, ended the program, and fell to the floor with a *oomph*. It was not only perfect, but a fantastic showing (to me) of how it would actually happen. Along with a subtle jab at the other series that didn't do it that way. :)

*Note to self, always stand first in the simulator*

*when I get one*

Regards... RT
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RandomThoughts
Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 10:54pm (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S2: Death Wish

Hello Everyone!

@Elliott

I'm still quite a bit behind on my comment stream, but had to say I really enjoyed your take on this episode. I don't often comment on your reviews, but I think this one was spot-on and really made me think about it again, and its ramifications.

Regards... RT
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RandomThoughts
Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 9:33pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions

Hello Everyone!

Well, I'm not going to read all of the responses yet, I'll probably just read them on the comment stream, which I'm only one month behind on now. :)

Yeah, I knew he'd fall in love in the simulator. It wasn't bad though.

My favorite moment? *Chomp* *Chomp* *Chomp*. I knew immediately it was gum, and laughed quite hard. And when she asked Bortus if it helped, his immediate "No" put me over the top. I had to pause it for just a moment.

A close second was when Klyden promptly ate his first cigarette.

Have a great day... RT
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RandomThoughts
Sun, Mar 24, 2019, 1:03am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S1: The Naked Now

Hello Everyone!

I've been doing a limited re-watch of this with my Wife, who has never seen them before (cutting out the stinkers, as she'd have no patience for 'em).

Watching back in the day, yes it was a cute episode, but without some sort of indication of what the crew members were about and how they acted, it was mildly difficult to realize how much they were out of (normal) character.

So I left this one until the end(ish) of season one, and it made it better, because we'd seen how the characters interact and how they are portrayed.

She isn't a fan quite yet, but was mildly amused. :D

*Mild, mild spoilers after this*

Other than Wesley not being an acting bridge officer yet (hey, grab the prodigy when you can), it makes it more enjoyable to view. In my humble opinion of course.

*Spoilers done*

Have a Great Day... RT
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RandomThoughts
Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 3:02am (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: All the World Is Birthday Cake

Hello Everyone!

Some days, I like to put myself in the shoes of the people running a particular show. I'd like that there were +230 comments on this episode. Then after reading a particular argument, would ask myself: How in the world did they get "there" from "here"? And why did they talk about it for that long? Really? Theology? That long?

Anywho, I think about that some days, but not today.

My thoughts are, I really enjoyed the episode, and after 30 days or so, understood their desire for freedom at any cost since there was no end in sight (if they were going to be rescued, it would have happened already). But the end just... seemed lacking... somehow. I think the last few minutes wasn't on par with the rest of it. I believe I'd have preferred it if they'd been just about to go on their rampage, then the Commandant would come in and tell them, reluctantly, they are now free to go. Or maybe get out and have to live off of the land for a few days before being found. I don't even think it was the last second save...

I think it just felt forced. Perhaps that's it. They wanted an action scene in it and made it happen. Yep, I think that's it.

I did like the excitement at a first contact, the landing on the lawn, the confusion when the doctor said something about how they handle their own "Giliac (thinking I'd missed something). But the last five minutes or so was incongruous with the rest of it, at least for me.

Enjoy the day everyone... RT
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RandomThoughts
Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 1:48am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S5: Children of Time

Hello Everyone!

I was just thinking about Stockholm Syndrome.

While they were not held captive by the residents, the more they learned about them, the more they began to identify with them. Life elsewhere would go on, they knew they would be replaced in their positions, and they eventually could not justify removing these thousands from time just so they might have their old lives back.

If they had the command crew decide to stay in their time, they would have had the guilt of erasing those descendants. They only way they could write this with an "out", was to have Odo break the ship for them. They can feel badly for what was (probably) erased, but they didn't do it and then can move on with their lives, guilt free (and never, ever bring it up again).

It might have been interesting to get a look at the station after they were declared missing/dead. Perhaps Captain Edward Jellico (since he knows how to handle Cardassians) as the new commander, with a vindicated Ro as his 2nd (because, well, Bajoran reasons). Then when the Defiant didn't go back in time, we'd see everything change/vanish.

Just musing there though. Time might not work that way, but hey, it's ST. :)

Enjoy the Day Everyone... RT
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RandomThoughts
Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 12:40am (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S1: Miri

Hello Everyone!

@Petrus

Your question: Why do the children keep wanting to kill Kirk? Is it purely because he is acting like an adult schoolteacher?

They mention that the adults went crazy, hitting and whatnot, and figured they had to do something about the crew before they also went crazy. They had not realized they each would as well, as they (very) slowly grew up.

Regards... RT

P.S.: I hope you found some episodes you liked. :)
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LouBotts
Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 7:54pm (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S1: The City on the Edge of Forever

One of my favorites. I've read through a lot of these posts. I never thought about a return with Edith. The Guardian's conditions were quite clear.

The one big flaw that I don't have an answer for is how Spock was able to tie into the ships computers with his tri-corder and pneumonic memory circuit to learn of future events. The Enterprise was centuries from being created.
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RandomThoughts
Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 2:45am (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part I

Hello Everyone!

I have not caught up with all of the comments, but I have read most of them.

I really enjoyed this episode, but was not completely surprised by the fact the Kaylon destroyed their builders.

Yes, I thought of the VOY episode "Prototype", but also the TOS episode "What Are Little Girls Made Of?":

RUK: That!... was the equation! (seizes Kirk) Existence! Survival must cancel out programming *nodding head in a menacing way*. I have always loved that scene...

The first time I heard the Kaylon were a race of intelligent machines, that was the first show I thought of. My questions were, who made them and where are they now? Well, the organics lost the Cylon... umm... Kaylon war, obviously. :)

They always made certain for Isaac to say he was studying them. He never said anything about how he saw something that would make Kaylon more certain to join the Union. He was just studying, and helping them along the way, because his survival would mean more information sent to Kaylon.

Now, how the interaction with the crew (along with a party, just for him!) (and 700 years with another world), would affect him, well, we just don't know yet until part two.

Oh, and when watching the Kaylon go up and down steps with handrails... I just knew they would discover there had been sentient beings there before, aka "organics". That is why the buildings we saw had windows. It might have been nice to see some broken windows (why fix them when it doesn't bother them?), unless they have a compunction to keep the status quo. It wouldn't have been for outsiders, because there weren't any. And many buildings were really tight-and-tall, with no windows I could see. Perhaps those were made later.

Even though I thought I knew what happened to the "builders", I did love the reveal. While they could have incinerated them (or something), if there wasn't anything in their bodies to help them in any way, they would just discard them. Although, I'm thinking if a body wasn't in the way, they'd just leave them there. Perhaps they like their office spaces clean and tidy, just in case they allow anyone in.

Hmm... robot race... very powerful... know nothing about them... let's let them learn everything about us! In hindsight, somewhat short-sited. :) I mean, the Union is Us in the future... didn't they watch BSG or Terminator? :D

As always, your mileage may vary... but I bought a Prius and am loving the around 50mpg I get. I never knew it was possible...

RT

P.S.: Of course, the Prius is a rolling computer, and I'll be among the first to die when they all rise up...
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RandomThoughts
Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 1:48am (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part II

Hello Everyone!

A few thoughts I jotted down, and the first couple are some that I already saw addressed, but darned it, I wrote them down so they are here too. :)

It looked like the Orville was able to stay in the fight better after getting hit by so many things. In a way, I'm glad they didn't mention "Glad we got those deflector upgrades a few weeks ago". We were supposed to remember, and not get hit over the head with it. And the Kaylon were discussing something about upgrading the shields. Between the two, the Orville has some upgrades that the Union will be looking into, I'd think.

Isaac has had much more time with organics than just on the ship, 700 years with that one race. Now I start to wonder if he made friends and/or was sorry (in his own way) to leave.

Now the things I have not seen covered...

They made it seem like Kaylon was very far away, as they'd be out of communicator range. It reminded me of TOS when it took hours or days to get a response back to the Enterprise. But when they left Kaylon at maximum speed, it didn't feel that far at all. Sometimes shows compress time quite a bit, but it felt like it was only a few hours. That perplexed me. They said it would take weeks to get the whole fleet back to Earth, and obviously it was only made up of ships that weren't as far away, because it didn't seem like they'd been in the shuttle bay for weeks... Even if it is a region of space that is no-go, that small(ish) seeming amount of time shouldn't have kept them out of communicator range... *brain is hurting thinking of this, must... change... to another comment*

I didn't believe the Kaylon broke through the line so much as they made it through the scrum. I actually liked the images of Union ships breaking off from what they were fighting to try and chase them down. It felt like a very desperate fight, and I enjoyed that.

We saw a great many of the circle ships on the surface, but was that all of them? How many did they actually launch? I ask this because only a portion of the Union fleet was there, and I rather thought it was a small portion of the Krill fleet that showed up. I'd imagine the Kaylon were/are going to keep building ships, but if that was the bulk of their fleet, how were they going to erase organics from the galaxy (eventually)? These were partial Union and Krill fleets, rather small by comparison to the whole. Heck, if the Krill were there from the beginning, it might not have even been as desperate of a fight. So, was the Kaylon fleet just the amount of ships they figured they'd need, and they underestimated? I figure there are other races out there with fleets (we just saw a ship from one a few weeks ago), and once they realized the danger the Kaylon represented, they'd do a massive fleet, joining with the other 7/8 of the Union that didn't get there in time, and go paste Kaylon.

Which brings up my last thought (I think), I was hoping the remaining ships (if the Krill wanted to come along) would chase down the retreating Kaylon and destroy them. Maybe even to to Kaylon itself, hopefully staying out of range of planetary defenses, and bombard them. This might be a stretch of course, since they could have been blown out of the sky, but it will have to be the next step as Kaylon just declared war against... well... the galaxy. They will have to be dealt with eventually, and if they did just send out the bulk of their fleet, they might have been vulnerable for a time.

Anyway, these were fun thought's I had. I really did enjoy the episode. Yes, I figured Isaac would help in the long run, but he didn't save the day. The other Union/Krill ships would have just targeted them as an enemy, and they'd have probably been destroyed. He just saved the day for the Orville. :)

Peace... RT
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hgrtwhrtsf
Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 7:05am (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part I

I think it was pretty obvious that this was going to happen at some point.

Great episode though.
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itsafake
Fri, Jan 25, 2019, 12:30am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: New Eden

Who can forget the scene in DS9's "In the Pale Moonlight" with Sisko and Senator Vreenak? The entire episode was brilliantly scripted by Ronald D. Moore, but this scene in particular percolated with wit and tension. T

Sisko and Vreenak are drinking Romulan ale, which Sisko had replicated. Sisko then tries to convince the Romulan that a Federation-Romulan alliance is a good idea, because if the Dominion wins - thereby gaining control of Cardassia, The Klingon Empire, and the Federation, the Romulans will be.... surrounded.

It is right after the utterance of this word when the Romulan says, about the replicated ale, "It really is a good replica. The aroma's starting to grow on me. For a moment there I almost forgot that it wasn't the real thing, but only for a moment. "

So it goes with Discovery. Tonight's episode moved incrementally closer to the feel of a TOS or DS9 or TNG episode, but it did so... mostly superficially. Words about religion versus science were uttered. Quotes from Arthur C. Clarke about extraterrestrials being God evoke the days of TOS in which every other episode seemed to feature a God entity presiding over an alien race. There is even a character - a naysayer - who believes that the Discovery crew does indeed exist, and travels through space on a starship. These plot components, or ones like them, were staples of TNG/DS9/TOS fare.

What Discovery has never learned (and I fear never will, despite the writers' obsession with the word "context") is how to slow things down to the point where any of the lines, or images, or references, are allowed to germinate and develop into an actual scene that lasts for three minutes. Serialization has already presented problems for the show (Stamets' mourning Dr. Culber was all Stamets was given to do, and the character deserves better than having to play the same simply plotted beats over and over again; conversely, some storylines have simply been confusingly plotted over the course of several episodes); a serialized show that plays as if every second must be dialed up to 11 does not work; there is an enjoyment moment to moment but nothing to ponder when the episode ends.
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RandomThoughts
Tue, Jan 1, 2019, 11:46pm (UTC -6)
Re: BSG S2: Black Market

@Dave

Boy, it has been a while, but I thought there was a minor note in an episode that the Battlestars were meant to be self-sustaining, because of long deployments and whatnot. I seem to recall they had.the ability to make more fighters, but have no idea when I heard it.

As they were meant to be cities-in-space, as well as a weapon platform, that would be quite handy.

Regards... RT
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Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 3:33am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S3: The Abandoned

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@Elliott

I also read her has Mardah, but I think the way they pronounced it during filming just made it sound "Marta", and that is how it was written later. I heard "Marta".
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For me, I just thought they'd never had sex. Goofy 16-year-old and 20-year-old. Yes, they were dating, and we know that because the show told us. That doesn't mean they were getting frisky when The Sisko was working. They never said they did, and I don't recall they implied it either.

I actually thought the age difference wasn't what made The Sisko the most uncomfortable (although I think he mentions it, it's been around a year since I watched it and am not in a hurry to go back (looked at a transcripts page)), it was that she was a Dabo Girl. I took that as his biggest gripe.

*after looking at a transcript* HIs first mention of the age:

SISKO: Quark may call her a dabo girl but she's twenty years old. She's a woman and Jake's a sixteen year old boy. It has to stop.

But then:

SISKO: She's a dabo girl and she's dating my son. I don't want to like her.

From back to the original watch until now, I thought the emphasis was on her simply being a Dabo Girl.

I still don't get the impression they were having "relations".

As always, these comments on a fictional show may or may not reveal any actual thoughts I had. Your mileage may vary...

Regards... RT

P.S.: O'BRIEN: Sixteen years old and dating a dabo girl. Godspeed, Jake.

P.P.S.: I think sometimes we really, really look at these episodes too closely. I won't touch HoQ with anyones ten-foot-pole, let alone mine...

P.P.P.S.: Many thanks to http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/index.html for the transcript page
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RandomThoughts
Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 3:15am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Game

Hello Gentle Sentients

@JerJer, perhaps Riker was being shown as more of a randy male because he'd been exposed to the game, which seemed to trigger sexual responses when you "won" the round...

...Nurse Alyssa Ogawa always looked to me like she was having a mini-orgasm when she was in the turbolift...

Now, as far as bringing a STD home, wouldn't the transporter filter that out? And, since we've seen a transporter go back to a earlier version of folks, would that not be the secret of eternal youth? Put a hair into the machine from when you were 24, and have the transporter "fix" you back to then?...

I digress...

Riker was more than his normal "who-hoo" self because of the game. As far as what Troi was describing... even 27 years ago I knew she'd stopped talking about ice cream...

Regards... RT
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RandomThoughts
Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 2:49am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

Hello Everyone!

Maybe, just maybe, Thomas never figured this particular episode would get over-over-Over-analyzed. He just wrote it and thought it worked at the time.

Nothing implied or intended. Just a story.

And fade to black...

RT
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RandomThoughts
Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 2:57am (UTC -6)
Re: Frequently Asked Questions

Hello Everyone!

Back in the days of Babylon 5 and Deep Space Nine, cable companies were simpler. We had around three packages (at least with mine), and things would come and go as they were added and subtracted. I saw Babylon 5 on the cover of TV Guide, but it was on SciFy, and my package didn't have that. It looked interesting, and they gave it a good writeup, but I had no shot at watching. Then without warning two years later, my package changed for the better and there was SciFy. I'd remembered others talking with me about B5 and how good they thought it was, so I gave it a shot with "The Long, Twilight Struggle"...

It was fun, trying to figure out the series at the end of season two/start of season three, and I was Hooked! (For some reason, they held the last episodes of a season until the beginning of the next one...)

The stories just seemed... deeper. The bad guys were... subtle. The good guys had... shades of gray...

Perhaps if I'd seen B5 from the beginning as many did, I'd think of it differently. But here I was with fleshed out characters, none of whom were exactly as they appeared. And at nearly the same time came the Dominion War. The two just didn't compare. Don't get me wrong, I was a Trek Lifer/Truther (and loved Star Wars, which got me into Trek in '77), and DS9 was great! But eventually DS9, Voy and Bab5 were all showing at the same time, and if there were new episodes of each in turn on that Saturday, I'd save B5 for last. Oh, I'd watch the ST's, and enjoy them. But B5, I'd let it play, and not even fast forward during the commercials (sometimes taking a little break), just to make them last longer.

I've been going through Trek on a slow re-watch, and have been delightfully surprised by some from that time, knowing I rushed through them in the past. But now, B5 has just started showing on the station Comet, free Teevee, and I've been recording it daily... I almost get the same rush I got back then when I see another episode. The nuances... the stories... sigh...

And I've been looking at some of the characters I didn't think were that well-cast back then, seeing them in a different light. I didn't think much of Claudia at the time, but she has some moments that just makes the character shine. I used to think just about any actress could have played her, though now I'm not so certain. And as an aside, it is almost difficult watching the opening credits, seeing all of the actors who have died since it was made. There is no going back, sadly.

Lastly, while all of the B5 humanoid ships had secondary weapons that were pointing in many directions, they all *spoilers*---





---apart from the Vorlons and Shadows, had to actually Point their ships at the enemy to use their Main Guns. No matter the race, you had to Face Them, because they took so much energy they ran the length of that part of the ship (sort of like that BIG PHASER the Enterprise had in their last episode). It was very cool to see two ships maneuver to get an enemy in that crossfire. No 300,000 km battles here that were shown next to each other. Nope. If they fired those babies off, there was a purpose and it was up close.

*spoilers done*---

And to try to figure out the bad guys, because no one had, except they had actually figured them out but no one would listen, and good guys become bad guys, and bad guys become good guys, and one is such a shade of gray he should have been the poster child for Gray...

Yes, the first season was nothing to write home about, but it set the stage. JMS even had a removed actor come back to work later to flesh things out, and how often does that happen? Yes the last season was a bit of an add-on, as they thought they were going to be canceled after season four, but it fit right in with his "bible", so to speak.

Perhaps I just should have said: Babylon 5 season One, get through it, you'll be happy eventually. Seasons Two, Three and Four, you will be very happy. And season Five, you will be happy, just not as much as after season Four. But, it's good.

Thank you for your time and for reading my Random Thoughts (I came up with it before the Voy episode of the same name, by the way).

Heck I could go on with that, just as long as there isn't a weird power outa.....

*blue screen*
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RandomThoughts
Mon, Nov 5, 2018, 11:23pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: The Wounded

Hello Everyone!

@MMM

---Think it made him more understandable, not correct. The whole Secret Cardassian Buildup thing is a lot like the Cuban Missile Crisis. Imagine if some US submarine captain had unilaterally launched torpedoes at a Soviet supply ship and sunk it. Would he have been right to do so? That's Maxwell.---

Wow, that is so close to the truth of what nearly happened. A Soviet submarine almost did that during the Cuban Missle Crisis, with a nuke-tipped torpedo:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208342/Soviet-submariner-single-handedly-averted-WWIII-height-Cuban-Missile-Crisis.html

If not for Vasili Arkhipov, the world we know now might be very different, or not exist at all...

Regards... RT

P.S.: Good men of good conscience exist in all countries, and hopefully in all worlds...

I now return you to your regularly scheduled Jammers Reviews...
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RandomThoughts
Mon, Nov 5, 2018, 10:24pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: Unification

Hello Everyone!

@Bruce

Yes, yes I did. The first time, and every time.

Regards... RT
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