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Lobster Johnson
Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 3:22pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Cupid's Dagger

@Josh

I'm failing to see how tricking two people into sleeping with each other via what is basically a drug is not a huge moral red flag.
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Lobster Johnson
Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 3:14pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Cupid's Dagger

@Josh

they very clearly drugged the ambassadors
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Lobster Johnson
Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 9:38am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Cupid's Dagger

@Hugh

I dunno, they roofied the ambassadors into sleeping with each other
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Lobster Johnson
Thu, Nov 9, 2017, 11:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Cupid's Dagger

Well, he did use his powers to explicitly trick the ambassadors and it's pretty screwed up not to tell anyone that he's in heat. I find it hard to believe this would be the first time this has come up if he's a xeno-archaeologist.

I get that it's a comedy ep, but eh even ignoring all that I'm not a fan of the divorce plot in general.

I liked how weird Finn and Yaphit having sex was though and the cold open was funny. The plot was just pretty weak and Ed/Kelly's divorce remains a dull plot point.
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Lobster Johnson
Thu, Nov 9, 2017, 10:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Cupid's Dagger

uh, was Rob Lowe's in heat stuff supposed to come off as sort of rapey?
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Lobster Johnson
Tue, Nov 7, 2017, 10:51am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S1: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

@Trent

I can genuinely say I wasn't expecting this conversation to go in this direction.
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Lobster Johnson
Tue, Nov 7, 2017, 9:52am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S1: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

@OmicronBetaDeltaPhi

I appreciate open questions but I'd ask you to consider a quote I've found very profound for all the Discovery and Orville discussions:

"Comparison is the thief of joy"

I personally really hate that it's become so hard to discuss either show without mentioning the other because I enjoy them both so much. It feels like a disservice to both shows.
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Lobster Johnson
Mon, Nov 6, 2017, 11:46am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S1: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

The thing I find bizarre about L'Rell is she's supposed to be a stealth character and goes on and on about assassinating Kol and sneaking off the ship and then they just sort of lazily walk around the corridors.

I would probably fault this more in the direction than the writing since you'd think the script would probably indicate she should be stealthy if they're gonna have her keep talking about. It's up to the directors to depict that.
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Lobster Johnson
Mon, Nov 6, 2017, 10:06am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S1: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

@BZ

I really think they should've done a montage of the Discovery speeding through some missions with Burnham's log about turning the tide, it would've helped with the "show don't tell" factor.
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Lobster Johnson
Mon, Nov 6, 2017, 9:25am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S1: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

So if there's a blatant issue with this episode it's very apparent that it's the bizarre episode runtimes CBS is imposing on Discovery.

This is a streaming show, I don't care if it airs on cable in Canada, they should be completely unbound from conventional TV lengths and yet somehow this episode wound up being SHORTER than the average TV episode when it very apparently needed to be LONGER.

Why is this show not averaging 55-60 minutes, at the least 45? If they're going to do a big multi perspective storyline you need that extra time, imagine Game of Thrones or the Wire trying to tell a big hyperlink storyline in 40 minute installments (not a comparison of quality, just a comparison of narrative structure).

There is nothing that pisses me off more than a show struggling against absurd network demands, especially when this episode had so many cool elements floating around on the planet. I want more of that! Fuck CBS.
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Lobster Johnson
Thu, Nov 2, 2017, 11:44pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Into the Fold

@OmicronThetaDeltaPhi

That depends on if we're counting the Glory Hole (lol)
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Lobster Johnson
Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 9:28pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S1: Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad

@Peter G.

"All they needed to do was show me a new life form in nature and they had my attention; I was even excited a little"

We just had a 3 episode arc about a new life form that was explored in detail, it feels disingenuous to act like the show doesn't explore new life just because it didn't in this episode.

I also have trouble buying the anti-intellectual, anti-science mindset when the majority of the characters are scientists and the show dotes over them. Lorca is a counterpoint to most of the crew, they've gone out of their way to show he's a soldier not an explorer so his attitude fits his character. Is it really a big deal that 1 character on the crew has a different view point for contrast? Tilly's the polar opposite of Lorca and I like comparing Burnham's interactions with both.

I mean the last "anti-intellectual" character, Landry, was KILLED her ignorance.

You're very articulate and I enjoyed reading your thoughts, but I have to politely disagree with a lot of it. I mean, this was a very humanistic episode - the major theme running through it was forming connections with people. Trust.

That's a very Star Trek sentiment.
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Lobster Johnson
Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 9:43am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S1: Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad

@MadManMUC

man that guy who have a heart attack if he actually watched the majority of Star Trek episodes, hell the FIRST episode of TOS is about gaining magic powers from a supposed barrier that surrounds the galaxy.
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