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Lizzy DataLover
Fri, May 10, 2019, 11:07pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S2: The Child

Dr. Katherine Pulaski is A FUCKING COLDHEARTED BITCH. She was a horrible replacement for the caring Dr. Crusher, and was unbelievably insufferable to say the least. And don't even get me started on her treatment of poor innocent Data. "Counselor Troi needs the warm touch of a human, not the cold hand of technology." The fuck???? What kind of a randomly horrible thing is that to say? And Data continues to he as nice as HUMANLY possible to her, and yet every time he's around she feels the sudden urge to rip him a brand new one. It's ridiculous.

Also, this episode sucked. It's only redeeming scene was of course with Data being all fascinated and mystified by the miraculous birth taking place before him. That was the true curious, life-loving side of him; that enchanted look on his face; that we so unfortunately didn't get to see too much of after the first couple seasons.
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Lizzy DataLover
Fri, May 10, 2019, 3:53pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S2: The Measure of a Man

I agree with a lot of the points made in these posts *I disagree with some of them too.* I am 100% pro-life, a vegetarian, an animal rights activist, and I'm very much for human rights as well, extremely against racism and sexism and all that, and a true believer/follower of the Gene Roddenberry future. Although even it seems to have its flaws. Take this episode for example. As good as it is, I thought the people of the twenty fourth century had *evolved* to the point of accepting everyone, now matter who or what they are. True, Data is quite harder to understand/define than any organic being apart of the Federation, but like Picard said, Starfleet's very mission is to find new forms of life. And Data is exactly that. It is totally hypocritical to begin a quest to explore other life-forms and then refuse to accept or even try to understand them once you encounter one.

And of course there's the whole deal with the question of Data's life in the first place, but IMHO there's really not that much difference between biological life and technological life. Although I may not have many frames of reference other than fictional characters, it seems that Data and his fellow crewmates function in relatively similar ways. One being organic and one being mechanical in nature, they both have virtually the same makeup/bio functions. His positronic brain doesn't actually sound all that different from a human brain. The main difference being it is constructed of metal instead of organic tissue. So it's basically what the human brain would be if it were made from metal.

I do not have any prejudice against AIs, in fact most of my very favorite TV characters are AIs. Like right here. I even named my phone Andy *for android* and usually refer to him as a he. As playful as this is, it just shows you how much I'm willing to accept. Much more than the people of 2364 it seems. Now I'm not expecting them all to name their phones and kiss their oweys when they malfunction, but it would be nice to see some willingness to accept the unknown here. We cannot prove true sentience of ourselves any more than we can of Data. Louvois said it best when she stated that she doesn't even know if she has a soul let alone Data. So Maddox's arguement is invalid, because if he calls Data a machine just what exactly does he really mean by that? If he means a self-functioning structure that is constantly working to keep itself going and relys on specific specifications to do so, then like Picard said, we're all machines. And if he means a piece of mechanical equipment with no brain that blindly serves its makers without a second thought, *because it has no thoughts* then he is still wrong. And I'll tell you why. Your toaster would never ask you "why do you put bread into me?" Even if it could talk. The very fact that Data rejects the procedure in the first place should have been proof enough; if Data were really a mindless automaton with no sentience, then he would have blindly accepted. But instead he fights for his case, making very rational arguments as to why it would be a tragedy if something were to go wrong. How could a being with essentially no life be trying so hard to protect it? Why, he wouldn't even know what life is.

Data is as human as you or I when we get right down to it, perhaps not completely physically, but he is living. And since we cannot prove what living really is or what it means for anyone, we will probably never know the true answer to the big question of "does Data have a soul." I will never know it of myself and most likely neither will all of you. But I believe it is there, or else we would all just be empty shells, much like Data when he's been *turned off.*

"What makes me sentient and him not?" Good question Picard. What is the difference? What gives biological beings more rights than anything else in existence? True, organic creatures seem to have the longest track record of showing real sentience, *whatever that may be* but how do we know that this isn't the beginning of the rein for artifical sentience? Just because they were relatively non-living before doesn't mean times wont change. We started out as practically nothing before our life and eventual sentience emerged. And it certainly took its sweet time. We have no frame of reference for even life itself to be judging other more unique beings for not being alive. We're judging them for not being exactly what we are, and not living up to our standards, not for being insufficient in nature. Until we learn what the true meaning of life is *spoiler: its 42* we are not allowed nor qualified to make assumptions on what life is and what it should be.

All that being said, I really enjoyed this episode for its marvelous tackling of an outrageous issue. Classic Trek.
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