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Linda
Fri, May 12, 2017, 1:31am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S1: Parallax

Skeptical, if you check my posts on Parallax on 5/5 and 5/6, I think you’d find that you and I share similar viewpoints about Torres.

During the first run of Voyager, I gave up on the series early on. But I have now developed a fondness for many of the Voyager characters, and for reading the comments on this site. The intelligence of the discussions and the civility is very much appreciated.
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Linda
Thu, May 11, 2017, 8:47am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S1: Parallax

OMG!!! Skeptical, you’re so polite! But are you really? The host of our party (that would be Jammer) has asked his guests (that would be us) to take the fight outside (that would be away from his website). But you are so rational, reasoned and polite, surely, Jammer is wrong, surely YOU can change the hearts and minds of the misguided left.

And I understand, I so do. Many a time I myself think about a particular someone, this person is so misguided, and their very soul is at stake, surely I can reasonably remind them that they believe in Jesus, and Jesus taught us that we cannot serve two masters, and by that Jesus meant that one has to choose, that one cannot walk the path to salvation while also walking the path to riches and wealth. But then, I think, if Jesus cannot change people’s hearts and minds, what chance have I got? And besides, does that really belong on a ST website?

So instead, I’ll stick to commenting about this episode: Was Torres wrong for hitting Corey? Should she have been punished for it? Yes and yes. I can only hope that when injustices happen in the real world, no matter what the gender, race or creed, you and DLPB are just as outraged.
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Linda
Wed, May 10, 2017, 11:28pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Tuvix

RandomThoughts, I’m thinking there’s an alternate reality where the writers did it just that way.
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Linda
Wed, May 10, 2017, 11:56am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Tuvix

Fungarian, I agree that it’s very disturbing that the crew doesn’t seem to respond to Tuvix’s distress. In their defense, I think they’re all just too stunned by the turn of events.

Recently I watched TOS episode “The Enemy Within” where due to a transporter accident, Kirk is split into two (Good and Evil Kirks). After Good Kirk’s had to battle Evil Kirk, and it’s time to reunite the two entities, Evil Kirk cries, “Please! I want to live!” And Good Kirk says simply, “You will. Both of us.” And embraces him compassionately. A moment like that, of compassion and understanding, a physical embrace, by someone other than a hologram, could have gone a long way here.
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Linda
Tue, May 9, 2017, 11:34pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S1: Parallax

Merriam-Webster definition of Troll: "a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant or offensive comments or disruptive content."

Jammer: "But I also pride this commenting forum as a place for civility."

Synonyms for civility as per MS Word: politeness, respect, courtesy, graciousness

I happened upon this website in January 2017 while trying to rundown an obscure ST point. Reading the comments of whatever episode, at some point I got riled up. I was ready to respond, only to keep reading and discover that someone else had already posted a very eloquent response representing my perspective. That’s what kept me coming back again and again, reading the great variety of comments, usually civilly bantered back and forth. And it’s one reason why I’ve spent the last few months enjoying the ST series as they’re currently re-running on H&I. Watching and re-watching episodes has been more enjoyable while considering the viewpoints and insights that I've read here. Thanks again, Jammer for allowing and emphasizing civil discourse.
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Linda
Tue, May 9, 2017, 4:53pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Most Toys

The episode begins with Picard summing up the situation, that because of a sudden crisis, the Enterprise is procuring “unstable” material. Under these circumstances, had Picard known of the trader’s reputation, he possibly would have been willing to overlook it in order to quickly get the needed supplies.

Once the “accident” happened, before their very eyes, it’s seems believable that the crew would have been in shock. Even if they knew the trader was a “collector,” to them Data was a crewmate, not a unique collectable. They attempted to investigate, but as the other ship pointed out, the Enterprise was far more likely to have superior sensors. With the shuttle in such small pieces, there didn’t seem to be much to investigate, and they were on the clock to use the newly acquired material to resolve a crisis.

Like other commenters, I find it easier to accept that Data was firing the weapon to kill Fajo, than to accept his comment to Riker: “Perhaps something happened during transport, Commander.” This is so out of character for Data. His answers are usually completely truthful, long-winded and so comprehensive as to be absolutely unambiguous. Here his words seem human in nuance, displaying an ability to tell the truth while not being completely honest. But Data also identifies the specific disruptor, and Fajo has said that it is illegal for use on anyone. So in a sense, Data’s honesty remains intact: He makes Riker aware of a picture bigger than just any weapon being discharged during transport.

In the last scene, Data tells Fajo: “I do not feel pleasure. I am only an android.” But Fajo is a twisted, contemptible individual. And perhaps a human having this conversation with Fajo would also not feel pleasure, just a relief that Fajo would likely be spending the rest of his days in a penal institution. So maybe this is just another indication that Data is more human than his positronic brain allows him to realize.
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Linda
Sun, May 7, 2017, 11:19am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Shakaar

If Miles could have hit the dart board using his left hand, and in pain, he would have really been in the zone! But I kinda wish he had tried.
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Linda
Sat, May 6, 2017, 8:58am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S1: Parallax

Actually, I think at this episode’s end Carey should remain Acting Chief Engineer and Torres is sentenced to the brig, but the sentence is suspended as long as Torres’ behavior warrants it. (After all Barclay is a talented engineer, but I doubt that anybody’s going to say he should be Chief Engineer.)

Of course having Torres on the crew would be a problem for Carey. I can envision his command being undermined by crewmembers respecting Torres knowledge and looking to her for confirmation before following Carey's orders. It could have been interesting seeing that play out.
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Linda
Fri, May 5, 2017, 3:42pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: Miri

Sometimes the best part of watching TOS is that it’s like attending a reunion: all these familiar people that I haven’t seen in forever. In this particular episode: Kim Darby and Michael J Pollard. (Michael J Fox at one point claimed that he took the middle initial J because of Pollard. I think Darby was probably about 20 here, and Pollard not quite 30.)

I think the crush is believable And Kirk handled it okay. And yes, a duplicate earth, if you’re going there, you should use it better. As a kid, I watched TOS occasionally in its original run and then in syndication. And seeing it all these years later, it’s clear that TV storytelling has evolved and that some stories don’t hold up. And yet they’re still better than some stuff that’s being created today. And knowing what I know now and didn’t then, I was awfully worried for those red-shirts when they started wandering about on their own.
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Linda
Fri, May 5, 2017, 11:55am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S1: Parallax

Agreed. And this episode smacks of a double standard.

And yet. You’re on a starship in the middle of nowhere. Your engines are failing so badly according to helmsman Paris, that soon everyone may need to get out and push. With acting engineer Lt Carey things are getting worse. Do you throw your best hope to repair the engines into the brig and hope for the best? When crisis is averted, in large part due to the offender, do you nevertheless throw her into the brig for past misbehavior? Do you let her out of the brig only in times of crisis? And even then, she’d probably be out of the brig a helleva lot.

And of course there are plot holes: Paris says they might have to get out and push, but a short time later, they meet the singularity and the engines seem fine and dandy. Torres had been confined to quarters, but obviously at some point had been returned to engineering, because when Voyager runs into the singularity, she responds from there.

Probably because TPTB wanted the crew quickly in their proper positions so subsequent episodes could essentially stand alone, Torres is named chief engineer by episode’s end. I agree with those who believe that Torres should have earned the position after a few more episodes. It could have made for some interesting storylines if handled correctly. Torres learning and practising people skills and taking anger-management classes, bonding with Carey and other engineering crew, it could even have been fun. And at some point her apology to Carey should have been better than, ‘Sorry. Maybe you should go to sickbay.’
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Linda
Wed, May 3, 2017, 6:14pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: Day of Honor

Soooo, Torres and Paris have only a half-hour of oxygen left, but that still gives Seven plenty of time to build a device (it was rather small, after all), Janeway to negotiate with the Cataati (and undoubtedly take a moment to casually ask, “oh by the way when you were stealing, uh, salvaging my warp drive, did you happen to see my two crewmembers who are currently MIA?), get the warp drive back aboard, secure the drive so it no longer poses a threat, and for Voyager to impulse over to wherever Torres and Paris are lazily floating about. Voyager probably also has enough time to stop at a local Starbucks along the way.

About the Cataati, yes they were awfully ungrateful etc, but I’m thinking it was only after they found out that (former) Borg Seven-of-Nine was on Voyager that they turned ugly and bit the hand that fed them. The Borg being responsible for their dire fate and all. So I guess it was supposed to be a doubly special moment when the Cataati guy told a Borg (Seven), “Thank you” and then the Borg (Seven) responded (in a human manner) “You’re welcome.” Though at that point, I personally was too obsessed with Torres and Paris’ ticking oxygen clock to appreciate it.

And did anyone else notice—the very first comment on this page? Suggesting that Voyager should have blown the Cataati out of the sky? It was posted on a Christmas Day. Gotta love it.

Enjoyed the episode, and the comments.
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Linda
Wed, May 3, 2017, 10:55am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

Hmm. Chrome, I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree. And I’m okay with that.

You and I agreed that Guinan manipulated Tar. Your POV: you’re okay with that, for the greater good. I could argue that the ends don’t justify the means. But that sounds like too heavy a philosophical discussion for this forum. Looking forward to picking nits with you on some other episode.
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Linda
Wed, May 3, 2017, 9:49am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

Well, Chrome, I’d have to go back and watch the episode again to be sure. But my recollection is that Picard was already convinced that Guinan was correct by then.

I just did a little background research on the writing of this episode and according to that source, the writers regretted how they had written Yar out of the series and wanted to give her a flashier exit. And I suspect that’s my real problem.
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Linda
Wed, May 3, 2017, 9:17am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: A Matter of Perspective

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury:

Commander William T Riker was accused of murder and found not guilty. He was never charged with either rape or attempted rape

According to the wife’s testimony: Riker came on strong, and had the husband not intervened when he did, who knows what would have happened. But we do know that the wife was not raped, according to her own version. Indeed, the wife never claimed that she was raped. What evidence is there that the wife’s version is correct? None. What evidence is there that Riker’s version is correct, or that the wife committed perjury? None. It’s classic he said-she said. On such weak evidence, would any prosecutor charge the wife with perjury? Yep. If his name is DBPL. Or maybe Ben Franklin. Unfortunately for the prosecution, the only witness to this so-called perjury just left orbit.
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Linda
Tue, May 2, 2017, 11:39pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

Chrome, I know most people will disagree with me, and I don’t hold that against them, but this is what I feel: Yar had shown her character by dying in a failed attempt to aid a crewmember, and by other missions where she honorably served. My personal opinion: Guinan does Yar a disservice by using that event to manipulate Yar. Yar doesn’t need to be manipulated into doing the right thing. Lay the cards on the table, Yar would have willingly gone to Enterprise-C.

But only, of course, if the writers wrote it that way.
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Linda
Tue, May 2, 2017, 9:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

Well, Chrome, I don’t know that I misremembered as much as I summarized, what Guinan said, and what I thought I’d seen in the comments, whether here or on the Skin of Evil comment section. And though it’s been a good discussion, I have no desire to go over all of the comments to see if my overall impressions of them were incorrect.

But it does seem to me that once asked, Guinan’s words were designed to manipulate, to provoke a specific response from Yar. And it works. Shortly thereafter Yar goes to Picard and requests the transfer, citing Guinan’s words. In truth, I don’t think the writers needed Guinan to give Yar that extra push. They’d written the love story and also provided a need for a tactical officer on Enterprise-C. Actually I could go further: I don’t know that the episode needs Guinan at all. What if: Enterprise-D discovers Enterprise-C and, through minimal techno-babble, realizes time-wise neither ship is where it’s supposed to be and ultimately settles on the strategy of sending Enterprise-C back thru the rift? Done right, I think that could work, too.

Enterprise-C traveled 22 years into the future. And here we are more than 25 years after the episode first aired still talking about it. Pretty amazing.
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Linda
Tue, May 2, 2017, 1:52pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

Agreed. The better measurement is how well one has lived, not how well they died.

In that final battle sequence, for a moment it seemed like the Enterprise-D was going to get blown to bits before Enterprise-C could go back in time. And I wondered, what if Enterprise-D would have failed because their chief tactical officer was not with them? That would have been ironic.

Enterprise-C was getting badly beaten in their own time. They jump to a future where their side has way better weapons—and still is destined to get badly beaten. I think I can believe that some crew members might want to go back to their own time and participate in a battle where in the slim case if they survive, there’s a chance to reunite with loved ones. And maybe you don’t have to be Guinan to have the feeling that you’re in a place and time that you don’t belong.
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Linda
Mon, May 1, 2017, 8:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: The Enemy Within

OMG! Tuvix! I’d forgotten about this episode. Through a transporter accident Kirk is divided into Kirk1 (the Good) and Kirk2 (the Evil). When it comes time to merge the entities together again, Kirk2 begs for his life: “I want to live!” he cries again and again. Just like Tuvix! Kinda.
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Linda
Mon, May 1, 2017, 3:15am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

It always bothers me when Guinan, or anyone else, says Tasha Yar’s death was “empty”, meaningless (in Skin of Evil). Yar died trying to help a crewmate. How in the world is that empty or meaningless? And since the Federation was losing in the alternate universe, it seems she was destined to die whether she transferred to Enterprise-C or not.

But I agree the episode is way better than most of S1 or 2.

"Let's make sure that history never forgets the name ... Enterprise." I’m pretty sure that Captain Kirk already made sure that history would never forget the name Enterprise. Though yes, that would be all for naught if the Federation lost the war in the alternate universe.
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Linda
Sat, Apr 29, 2017, 9:27pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: A Matter of Perspective

The teaser opening sets up the episode well: 3 people see the same scene, yet all three paint distinctively different canvases.

Even before Riker returns to the ship, Geordi seems to know of some problem. Maybe Riker told Geordi, or maybe Geordi observed some things first hand. Geordi’s testimony might have been interesting, after all, hasn’t he claimed on occasion that his visor allows him to see when a person is lying? And didn’t Picard’s winning hypothesis involve the scientist lying, being deceitful?

In the “prosecutor’s” hypothetical version, Riker, just before beaming out, takes out a phaser to kill the scientist. We viewers may know that Riker has a history with women, but we also know that Riker would never shoot a phaser in a situation as described by the prosecutor. And as others on this thread have noted, O’Brien should have been able to report if an active phaser had been beamed out with Riker.

Riker tells his side of the story. The wife tells her side. Riker says both versions can’t be true. Troi agrees, but clearly indicates that she senses neither Riker nor the wife lying. Troi’s loyalty is with Riker, but Riker knows very well that Troi’s abilities have cast his version in possible doubt.

Technobabble saves the day, and Picard leaves it to Riker to give the command for the Enterprise to leave orbit. And it might have been nice if just before he gave that order, Riker would have given some indication that here he had learned something, anything, like maybe sometimes a third wheel in a situation with a beautiful woman can be helpful, especially if one is ever hauled into court and needs a witness.

In many court cases, not just sexual assault, but also murder and theft and whatnot, witnesses often relate radically, diametrically opposed views of events: and all versions cannot be correct. In very few cases does anyone get charged with perjury for such testimony. And it’s left to a jury to decide who to believe. And anyone who thinks that the truth is so easy to discern and that a jury always gets it right . . . I’ve got some swampland that I’ve been trying to unload, any takers?
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Linda
Thu, Apr 27, 2017, 9:20am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Tuvix

Chuck, I agree. A final scene with Janeway, Tuvok and Neelix, done properly, could have buttoned up the episode nicely. I guess the writers ran out of time.
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Linda
Wed, Apr 26, 2017, 12:31pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: Turnabout Intruder

Are there enjoyable moments in this episode? Yep. Enjoyable for the right reasons? Probably not. Kirk’s face as Kirk’s consciousness tries to reclaim his body, definitely LOL. When Kirk (in Lester’s body) tries to convince Spock of his real identity by relaying incidents that we’ve seen in prior episodes, that worked. But it made me wonder why Spock and the crew never turned about and tried to get “Kirk” to relay past incidents. Cause obviously "Kirk" would have failed that test big time and the writers didn’t want the problem solved that way. The premise was an interesting idea, but its execution left something to be desired.
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Linda
Tue, Apr 18, 2017, 1:17pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Who Watches the Watchers

Melba, Ron Jones is credited, I think. According to wiki, Ronald Jones provided critically acclaimed work for the first four seasons of TNG but was supposedly fired because his music was thought to be "too noticeable" by Rick Berman.
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Lindadi
Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 11:54pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: The Cloud Minders

I like the haves vs have nots theme as it still resonates globally. Droxina is about the most vapid airhead space babe yet. Spock who was so impressed by "wife" T'Pring's logic in Amok Time has fallen into the abyss of Kirkian women-are-there-for-one-thing-only think. His human side is showing in that Spock's is now thinking with his other male brain. Give that woman a cheeseburger and some clothes please.
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Linda
Fri, Apr 14, 2017, 10:17am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S2: A Night in Sickbay

This episode was about Archer, not Porthos, who in this episode I’m pretty sure was mostly played by a dummy dog. Though I honestly don’t know what it says about Archer that he got his beloved dog from the mother of an ex-girlfriend. An episode about Porthos might have been better:

PORTHOS: Barking excitedly
ARCHER: What is it boy?
PORTHOS: Bark-bark-bark
ARCHER: You smelled the (techno-babble) residue of a (technobabble) weapon on our guests?
PORTHOS: Bark-bark-bark
ARCHER: What do you mean they’re not ambassadors but assassins?!
PORTHOS: Bark-bark-bark
ARCHER: Archer here! Go to red alert! Red alert!
PORTHOS: Bark-bark-bark—now the universal translator kicks in and we hear Porthos say …
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