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Jason R.
Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 6:49am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S6: Tapestry

"Not sure what this whole debate is about. The age of consent is 16 in most parts of the world."

Peter implied that she may I have slept with someone to get the job, which you correctly note wouldn't be illegal even if she was 16 (or 14 in many jurisdictions in the 1990s) but is certainly frowned upon.
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Jason R.
Mon, Aug 30, 2021, 8:48am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S6: Tapestry

At least in Tapestry Patrick Stewart being with Marta was a contrivance of the plot since he wasn't really "there" - from Marta's POV he was her age. Not sure why a 17 year old actress was needed to play what was presumably a 20 something character. Usually in Hollywood it's the opposite with 25 year olds as stand-ins for teenagers.
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Jason R.
Sat, Aug 28, 2021, 8:46am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S6: Tapestry

"As good as this episode is, and as much as I like it, I can never, ever forget for a single second of it that J.C. Brandy (Marta) was 17 years old when she had that steamy, we're-about-to-have-sex kissing scene with Patrick Stewart, who was 52."

Ummm what? My memory of Marta is a little fuzzy but I would have guessed maybe 25. 17? you sure?
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Jason R.
Sat, Aug 28, 2021, 8:45am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S4: The Wounded

"One question: how does O’Brien demote from Tactical Officer under Maxwell to Transporter Chief?"

It's the Enterprise, the flagship of the fleet. Not necessarily a demotion.
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Jason R.
Tue, Aug 24, 2021, 11:27am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S4: Reunion

Ya I don't understand where this idea that aliens aren't allowed to be funny came from. It's plainly untrue. Guinan has a whole speech about it in TNG S03 - Redemption.
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Jason R.
Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 3:34pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S5: The Perfect Mate

"There was not a single vagina within sniffing distance of this script, I guarantee you."

Good thing we have a certified vagina expert in the house.
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Jason R.
Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 3:30pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S6: You Are Cordially Invited

"One would think there needed some mention where Captain Picard and the Enterprise D/E was in missing Worf's marriage."

Patrolling the neutral zone for stray comets.
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Jason R.
Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 9:41am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S4: Paradise Lost

"You mean the mob on January 6? They wanted to stop the certification, yes. Trump, at the time, worked several republican officials in Georgia and Pennsylvania to provide him with the result he wanted."

That's a goal not a plan :)
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Jason R.
Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 6:47am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S4: Paradise Lost

Booming I can't listen to the link right now, but what was their *plan* to install him?
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Jason R.
Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 5:43am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S4: Paradise Lost

"@dlpb
"No, it wasn't a coup attempt lol."
Case closed, then."

I'm sorry, but surely anything labelled a "coup attempt" has to incorporate some semblance of a plan with at least an outside possibility of success. Otherwise any random nut or group of nuts a la Van der Lubben and the Reichataag fire could be labelled as such. (Which I gather is also how Hitler et al. spun it)

From what I have read on the subject, Jan 6th was basically an organized riot. Calling it a "coup" or an "insurrection" is really pushing it.

If you can explain the rioters' "plan" to topple the US government then I's be open to reconsider.
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Jason R.
Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 7:12am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: LD S2: Kayshon, His Eyes Open

@Booming or maybe that lonely kid on that planet did to Picard what he did to Riker. Either way, we will discover that Abrams Trek and Kurtzman Trek, every movie, every series, were "just a dream" - not even alternate realities - just gone, expunged.
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Jason R.
Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 5:17pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S4: Paradise Lost

"Let me ask you a question (or 2): Does Marxism / communism / socialism/ fascism not try to steer humanity away from trying to better itself morally and therefore in all other respects? "

Do you believe that a Marxist / socialist / fascist would agree with this claim? Keep in mind the word "try". Even you cannot seriously think that they would concur with this description of their beliefs.

"Do those ideologies not favor suppressing individual freedoms in favor of the state?"

Well in practice socialism I think uses the state as an instrument to enforce the will of the group whereas with fascism state power is an end in itself rather than a means to an end I think.

"If you don't think that is evil, would you say it's undesirable at least? Or would you say that's good?"

The fact that you need to ask this question kind of proves that you didn't grasp his objection in the first place.
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Jason R.
Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 5:35pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S5: For the Uniform

Or women....
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Jason R.
Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 5:35pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S5: For the Uniform

"Pretty simplistic worldview...sounds good eh? Not easy to live with for those over the age of 14, even if on the winning side."

When I win a case in court I always like to think I can hear the lamentation of the opposing lawyer's woman.
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Jason R.
Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 12:44pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S4: Clues

Really Picard should have had a contingency plan such as a video recorded message corroborating the order without the need to reveal anything about the Paxons.
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Jason R.
Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 7:07am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S3: Transfigurations

"For example the Christian religion should only be: Jesus loved all no matter what religion, pacifistic, humble, cared for the poor and probably a few other things. Behave like that and you are Christian. No book needed and no conflicts with science/reality as a bonus."

I agree wholly with Booming though perhaps for a different reason than what she had in mind.

Yes, she is correct in her implication that when you strip away all the baggage from Christianity about creation and natural order etc... you end up with some variation of the golden rule. The hippie love everyone and be super nice laid back woke Jesus.

Of course, that renders Christianity pointless, since virtually everyone everywhere from die hard Taliban fighters to Buddhist Monks to stone cold atheists agree with the golden rule (in principle, if not always in actuality) which means Christianity is left with nothing unique or useful to say and becomes little more than a hollowed out shell of trite platitudes. It becomes culturally irrelevent, except as a collection of old rituals and symbols like an ethnic dance demonstration put on for tourists.

But that goes to my original point, which is that if you expel religion from explaining the natural world, if you divorce it from its traditional domains in favour of some pie in the sky philosophy gimmick, then whether you know it or not, you've rendered it irrelevent and pointless and anyone who goes down this path will inevitably stop believing - which is exactly what has been happening everywhere this ideological shift has taken place, with the most progressive churches shuttering most rapidly.
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Jason R.
Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 8:00pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S3: Transfigurations

"But your broader point, that the "purpose" of religion was to explain natural phenomena, is what I was chiefly addressing, and it's simply not the case."

I can't speak to what religion's true "purpose" may be - according to who? Evolutionary biologists? High priests? And something as complex as religion might have more than one purpose.

All I can say is what every religion has actually done, and that always included the explanation of natural phenomena, from Zeus's thunderbolts to the stars to death itself. This explanation may have come in terms very different from a scientific textbook but the ultimate fact that the religion was seeking to explain the natural world isn't in doubt.

I mean even taking a religion like Judaism there is an explanation of who created the universe, in what order various things came to be, even down to the substance of how men and women were created from Earth and a rib, respectively.

This is all a necessary precondition to any understanding of what Jews or Christian's believe and why. The natural world and and how and why it came to be including God's role in it are hardly trivialities just as they aren't in any religious belief system. It makes no sense to worship God unless you accept that he created the universe and did all the the other aspects of the natural world, such as man!

It is only in the modern world that we have apparently decided that science explains these things far better than any religion, to the point where even fundamentalists often revert to scientific (or pseudoscientific) explanations of things like evolution when they engage the public square - even the bible thumpers have all but surrendered this territory when they seek to influence public policy.

Yet 500 years ago nobody needed to artificially curtail or cordon off religion's domain - of course religion explained the how and the why of the natural world, even if in terms we would consider crude or fanciful. Every religion did. This idea of religion being purely devoted to pie in the sky notions of morality and purpose is a modern contrivance, as I said, a desperate rearguard to carve off a tiny domain for religion that it can't be ejected from by science.
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Jason R.
Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 1:41pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S3: Transfigurations

"it's really just inaccurate that there was ever any animus against science."

Did I say there was??
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Jason R.
Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 12:18pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S3: Transfigurations

"I really wanted to say that religion's speciality has generally been more about *how* to live, rather than answering objective questions about the universe (though it has tried to encompass those too). "

Well my point was that until very recently in history, I don't think the religious would have even made such a distinction or even considered it a coherent point in the first place.

While religion may not have had a scientific methodology, the purpose of religion was always to explain objective questions about the universe that science now explains, which was not some incidental or secondary purpose but absolutely essential.

It is only now that religion has been ejected and supplanted from those realms by science that somehow the fallback has become that religion never sought to even answer those questions, which is revisionist nonsense.
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Jason R.
Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 10:18am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

"I think racism is never justified"

What about against the botfly?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.wired.com/2013/10/absurd-creature-of-the-week-botfly/amp&ved=2ahUKEwi0n6yIrbjyAhWvT98KHU9eAuwQFnoECEwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0k5jdm7Du7szgz2e4HHMds&ampcf=1
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Jason R.
Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 7:29am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S3: Transfigurations

"Well, hear hear! I would only add that religion has an entirely different purpose than science,"

Haha not to be pedantic but I actually don't think their purpose is different really.

This claim that science and religion answer different but equally valid questions is the desperate rearguard position of the religious as humanism powered by science has supplanted and swalliwed up most of its former territories banishing it to tiny reservations of human thought.

500 years ago no one would have accepted this measly domain for religion.
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Jason R.
Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 7:15am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

"It's said Strange New Worlds is going to be more in the traditional trekkie format let's all hope the writing backs it up."

It's Kurtzman Trek.

Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. Fool me three times... fuck it. It's not going to be "traditional trekkie format". If you believe that I have an investment in an Afghani feminist rock music label to sell you.
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Jason R.
Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 5:57pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S3: Transfigurations

@Rahul the reason I addressed creationism from a scientific perspective is because that is generally how it is framed by its proponents. If religious people want to thump the bible or the Koran they can always do that. But when they want to poke holes in the theory of evolution in terms of *science* inevitably creationism gets trotted out as the alternative "theory". It's not actually a religious idea so much as an outright pseudoscience.
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Jason R.
Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 5:14pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S3: Transfigurations

"I think we humans need to realize we can't explain everything in the natural world with scientific theories and there will be some things we won't understand even for another 10,000 years."

Well it is possible that we can't explain certain things with scientific theories due to lack of information - so there simply may not be available evidence in the fossil record or whatnot to give us a complete picture of every stage of evolution since the beginning of life. Science can't conjure data where none exists.

But evolution is the best scientific explanation we have. And what's the alternative? God did it? Creationism is, from a scientific perspective, worthless. It's equivalent to just saying a wizard did it. There are no better competing theories with evolution and creationism is no theory or explanation at all.

And I might add that saying something called "God" did it is as far from Jesus or any current religion as the roof of my house is from the moon. It may give comfort to the religious Christian that science cannot explain everything because they imagine that opens the door a crack for Jesus to walk through, but that's a fool's hope based on a false assumption.

I agree with Jeffrey that there seems to be ample evidence of evolution including the existence of "human" species related to or predating our own.
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Jason R.
Sun, Aug 15, 2021, 7:02am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S3: Transfigurations

@Tidd there is a distinction to be made between what an individual believes and what is doctrinally correct for one's religion.

Lots of Catholics no doubt think that homosexuality is perfectly ordered, natural and fine. Yet that is not what they would believe if they were practicing their professes religion correctly.

Any Christian denomination that takes the bible literally would find it impossible to accept evolution, that is just a fact.
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