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Frake's Nightmare
Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 5:17pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S4: Hard Time

Someone must have suggested this already - just do a memory implant of x years of life & counselling, then blammo!
(I agree with previous posters, and Bashir's comment - cellmate put in 'programme' to test, break and punish him - or in a more charitable view, to give the chance for remorse and redemption).
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Thunderchild
Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 3:09pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S2: Shades of Gray

A rubbish exit for Pulaski but when I first saw this episode I remember being happy to see Tasha again.
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H
Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 2:26pm (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S4: Observer Effect

I was thinking about how Discovery pulled a similar trick in its latest season (which I won't spoil just in case), and how that felt like a completely arbitrary and hamfisted addition, while here the TOS connection is like the cherry on top of an already terrific episode.

And boy, am I glad I didn't get to this episode until after a recent bout of covid!
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OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 1:13pm (UTC -6)
Re: MAND S2: Chapter 16: The Rescue

@Dave in MN

"And frankly, a lot of the time, Booming DOES have a point"

I agree. A lot of the time, she does. Unfortunately, this was not one of those times...

BTW have you read the entire comment in question? Or did you stop at first sentence (which was the thing you praised)?
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Mephyve
Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 10:14pm (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S3: Turnabout Intruder

Having read the charges of misogyny, maybe by today's standards but for the time it was written it's actually pretty bold. Sean Connery made the best Bond movies and, again by today's standards, they were more sexist than this.
Captain Kirk had to sell that he had been taken over by a woman. Subtle actions would not have portrayed it justly. He had to go all ham or he would have just been Captain Kirk. Like it or not, the story required a caricature of femininity.
As for women not being captains, it would have been odd and probably off putting at that time The tv show "Julia" was only just breaking boundaries for it's portrayal of a black, single, successful woman. Let's remember, Women's basketball, soccer, wrestling or boxing wouldn't be a thing until decades later.
So yeah, Tos couldn't be made today without the SJW's going all out to cancel it on twitter but it did a great job for it's time.
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Mephyve
Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 9:38pm (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S3: Turnabout Intruder

Wow! Season 3 certainly went out with a bang. First, "All Our Yesterdays" stands up with the finest of sci-fi.
"Turn About Intruder" was gripping drama, with fine performances by all involved. It's a shame the show was cancelled after that. Like Muhammad Ali it was stripped of it's prime. Also like Ali it definitely had a great comeback.
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H
Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 9:22pm (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S4: Daedalus

I've grown quite tired of Archer's "I've made my decision!" schtick, which he seems obliged to wheel out every other episode at this point. It was one thing at the height of the Xindi arc but in situations like these, it feels wildly inappropriate not to hear your senior officers out, especially after a crewman just died.

Pretty terrible episode, almost laughably so during the climax. Hopefully things get back on track.
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OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 2:25pm (UTC -6)
Re: MAND S2: Chapter 16: The Rescue

@Booming
"Very recently it has become more pronounced on the left. It will calm down now, I think, now that nobody is Trump crazy anymore. "

This is factually wrong.

Trump has been gone for over a month now, and it isn't calming down. On the contrary: It looks like the PC mob has just gained *more* confidence from the fact that "nobody is Trump crazy anymore".

"Let's separate people into conservative and progressive."

Let's not.

Seriously, it is this kind of sh*t that has gotten us into this mess in the first place. This belief that "our side" (whichever that side it may be) is the paragon of virtue while the "other side" is a barbaric echo of the past which needs to be purged.

"In general for several decades, with some shortlived reversals one could argue for 200 years now, societies progress..."

Indeed.

Now here is an interesting challenge for you:

Can you describe what "social progress" entails, without referencing any political agenda?

"...societies progress which means that conservatives sooner or later become reactionaries, not because they changed but because societies changed. Then they are ostracized or canceled. Progressives are cancelled if they are too far ahead. That is why progressives sometimes later on are vindicated while conservatives who fall behind are not."

Do you realize how cultish this sound? Just because you call yourselves "progressives" does not mean you have a monopoly on social progress.

I'm reminded of all those religious nuts who claim "our religion is the ultimate truth and source of morality" while also committing - at the same time - horrendous amoral acts.

I mean seriously... look at all the things that people have done in the name of your allegedly enlightened views in the past few months. You call this living nightmare that's constantly getting worse "progress"? Are you f***-ing kidding me?

The worst of it is: This is exactly how the PC mob justifies what they are doing to themselves. They are so sure of their moral superiority that they treat everybody who thinks otherwise as subhuman.
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OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 1:27pm (UTC -6)
Re: MAND S2: Chapter 16: The Rescue

@Dave in MN

When did Booming do that?

Let's not let ourselves get distracted from the main issue here. As Jason stated:

"There isn't any serious doubt at this moment in history that left is the perpetrator, end of story. Left against right; left against centre; left against left.
This is not a symmetrical phenomenon."

This is precisely why cancel culture - in it's present form - is so terrifying. If it were only about random groups of people who ostracize other random groups of people, it wouldn't be a big deal, would it?

Now note that 99% of Booming's comment is aimed at denying Jason's statement. So what point, exactly, did she concede when she said "cancel culture is a problem"? Context, my friend, is everything.
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MidshipmanNorris
Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 9:24am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: Conundrum

This episode, while well-shot, well-acted, and mostly a great premise that plays out well, has always reminded me of a certain line from The Simpsons:

Chief Wiggum: "Hey I crack cases all the time. Like the case of the symphony conductor who murdered his star cellist."
Lou: "That was an episode of Columbo, chief. They show you who the bad guy is at the beginning of each one."
Chief Wiggum: "Yeah but you have to remember."

It's really prrrrretty obvious to the viewer that McDuff is "laying it on" a little thick. It can be kind of a bringdown to the episode, in fact, because it may be a mystery to the *crew* thanks to the technobabbly explanation, but it's really not at all mysterious to us who the bad actor is, just why exactly they're doing it.
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Mephyve
Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 8:33pm (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S3: Requiem for Methuselah

Wow this was bad. Falling hopelessly in love with a robot in the space of two hours.
Iknow Kirk is a hound dog but his behavior here was just wrong. He says tha Flint used him but he was a willing patsy.
And then Spock just mind wipes him while he's sleeping. Lol
I guess you can make this stuff up.
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zaphy
Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 9:08am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S6: Frame of Mind

Always enjoyed this ep. Solid 3 stars for me. One bit I never quite got - did the play actually take place? The ending implies it did as Beverly says the stage crew are going to pull down the set - but I can't see where in episode it would happen if 95% of it was "a dream".
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Frake's Nightmare
Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 5:22pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S1: Hide and Q

Wesley's jumper - reprise of last episode; blue grey sweatshirt with the red, gold blue stripes.
Quelle surprise - give Riker some power and he's a prick.
Were there any episode's with both Q and the Holodeck - AAARGH!
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Frake's Nightmare
Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 4:46pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S1: The Battle

THERE'S NO PROFIT IN REVENGE! (more just being it's own reward, really).
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Frake's Nightmare
Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 2:42pm (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S2: Carbon Creek

This was a great episode and a big boost to my self-esteem, 'cos everyone's always saying I look just like my great-granmother - even though I'm male (and not a Vulcan). Made a nice change from the idiot squad blundering around and f***ing things up for some hapless aliens.
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zaphy
Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 5:04am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S6: Starship Mine

I don't quite get the saddle gag. Initially, it's played as if Picard is making up an excuse to get out of talking to Hutch. But then we see he actually has a saddle (and full riding outfit). Then they joke about it again in the final scene.

Also, what's with the anti-small talk stuff? Hutch was personable enough - and it's effectively a function/party they were at - you're supposed to make small talk! Just made the Enterprise crew seem like a stuffy mob.
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Frake's Nightmare
Wed, Feb 17, 2021, 5:38pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S1: The Battle

Wesley's jumper - it's the one that looks like cotton sweatshirt, mainly blue/grey, with black collar and gorget, and then the three coloured stripes referring to Starfleet uniform colours - blue, red & gold......where does his destiny lie ? Unfortunately not in classic red shirt fate !
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Frake's Nightmare
Wed, Feb 17, 2021, 4:45pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S1: Justice

Wesley's jumper - sort of brown crew neck, fairly open weave - with a tabard like appearance, and sculpting around the shoulders. Like a woolly suit of armour. Does Beverley knit them or are they replicated ? Anyway the perfect outfit for a visit to Planet of the Oversexed Aryans.....and it protected him well from injury from the fall on the cold-frame.
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OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Wed, Feb 17, 2021, 8:50am (UTC -6)
Re: MAND S2: Chapter 16: The Rescue

@Sen-Sors
"It's interesting that people say 'How will lefties feel when cancel culture is turned around on them' because that scenario describes most of the 20th century, at least in the US. Cancel culture wasn't invented by Twitter lefties, it's always been with us, often wielded by conservatives."

That's true, and it's not just the 20th century. This has been going on since the dawn of history.

But this just strengthens Dave's point:

You don't need to "imagine" what a reverse situation would be like. There are plenty of historical precedents, and history has proven just how bad and oppressive those precedents are.

So why are so people okay with the current situation? Was McCarthyism so fun that we want to go through it again? Do these things suddenly become okay when it is your side of the political map who does them?

"That said, I am not necessarily a big fan of Twitter-style cancel culture. Exposing powerful people as predators and bigots is good, but there can be elements of mob-mentality..."

It's not just an "element" of mob-mentality. It's the very nature of the psychological process that's going on.

There's absolutely NOTHING in the current cancel culture that is aimed to expose predators and bigots.

Just like McCarthyism wasn't really about exposing Russian spies, and the post 9-11 mania wasn't really about stopping terrorists. At best, you could argue that these things have *started* with these goals in mind, but even then, the end result was inevitable to anyone who knows anything about human psychology. At worst, you could argue that they were a deliberate ploy to use an existing crisis to gain more power over the others.

Have you noticed how these things *always* get out of hand? It's quite telling that all your examples of historical cancel-culture ended up badly, isn't it? When will we finally learn the lessons from history and stop doing this sh*t?

"But here in the US, people with politics like Carano might endanger their revenue stream. They want everyone's money so they can't risk offending anyone."

Ah. But ask yourself this question:

Why does Carano's politics endanger Disney's revenue stream, any more than Pascal's politics? Both of them referenced the Nazis. Both of them have also made plenty of controversial tweets in the past. So why does this logic only works in one direction? After all, roughly half of Disney's viewers are Republicans. Why aren't Disney afraid to offend *that* half of their customers?

It's funny how people use this argument of "this isn't censorship! It's just business!" without actually stopping to think what that argument really means: Apparently the mob of the extreme left has become so powerful, that the mega-corporations find it "profitable" to fire actors who exhibit wrongthink.

I don't know about you, but I personally find such a situation to be much scarier then a simple "we've let her go because we find her views appalling". This kind of thing only becomes a danger when it is systemized, and "systemized" is exactly what you get when there's a mob that pressures everyone to conform to the same way of thinking.
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OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 8:24pm (UTC -6)
Re: MAND S2: Chapter 16: The Rescue

@Booming
"I don't know if my post created any responses."

You made me curious and I looked. My God, that was surprisingly mean-spirited, even for you.

Anybody keeping a tally of how many times Booming deliberately tries to hurt another person with a wild under-the-belt attack? I wonder if we're in the 3-digit zone already.

"I didn't read them because I'm too sensitive and afraid..."

Let me get this straight:

You're such a tender sensitive soul, that you're deathly afraid of the responses you might get. Yet you don't give a hoot that you've just DELIBERATELY hurt another poster? Heck, you've done this dozens of time before, and not even once have you shown a hint of remorse?

Forgive me if I'm having trouble buying your "poor sensitive little me" routine.

At any rate, you'll be happy to learn that nobody retaliated to your vicious post in kind, so your saintly pure soul remains protected.

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We apologize for the above interruption, and now return you to your regular program.
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OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Mon, Feb 15, 2021, 8:51am (UTC -6)
Re: MAND S2: Chapter 16: The Rescue

@Cody B
"It will be a never ending back and forth."

Indeed.

These "discussions" with this guy achieve absolutely nothing, because he isn't interested in an actual discussion. He is doing this because:

(1) He has a need to "prove" to everybody how right and smart he is and how stupid they are.
(2) He is bored sh*tless and this is a way to pass his time (that's not my interpretation but something he openly admitted many times). This also means that often his replies are deliberately provocative and nonsensical because that's the best way to lure you into an endless cycle.
(3) He simply can't refrain from replying.

This is why these arguments go on and on in circles, without anybody ever learning anything.

So what's the point? I can't speak for anybody else, but I - personally - have decided that I'm not going to waste any more of my time on pointless verbal sparring with people who aren't interested in an actual honest conversation.
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TH
Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 11:26pm (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S7: Author, Author

I always enjoy this episode, and as a piece of 90s TV, it works. But the more it becomes looked at in comparison to some of the best of Trek, and especially in modern-day retrospect (I believe certain modern day TV series have really raised the bar for consistency and sensibility across a series where it was far more in fashion in the 90s to have characters personalities suit the story of the week).

I don't know if I would give this one less than 4 stars - maybe 3.5 - But ,y biggest issues with this episode is the Doctor's positions in the episode.

Perhaps he's just clouded by ego - I think we've seen this happen a few times - like when he became a famous opera singer. So it's not inconsistent, but considering he's a computer program, it always struck me as stretching credibility for him of all people to be so egocentric and context-blind.

Jammer points out that this episode mirrors living witness. Yet in that episode, the Doctor is outraged by the misportrayal of his crew (by holograms that look vaguely like them). I guess it's arguable that he really thinks he changed the characters enough to make them fictional - I'm sure some tales of people changing the names of real people in a story to another with the same first letter are true. But seriously - in the 24th centry, is he really so incredibly naive as to think that putting dark hair on Captain Janeway's face and calling his captain another 'J' name make it an original character? I know there's supposed to be some element of overconfidence and naivety here, but surely the doctor is well versed enough in literature and especially in light of his own reactions in Living Witness to know that isn't going to be seen as anything else - especially when it's the entire crew, not just one character.

But then after vehemently defending his position even after Paris's stunt, and reluctantly agreeing to revise his work, in the trial he's all of a sudden adamant:

JANEWAY: "We might win on those grounds. But what about the Doctor?"

EMH: "What about me, Captain? It's the crew's reputations that are as risk. "

This about face is irritating. The Doctor's outrage at the start seems to be the publisher taking advantage of him and claiming he has no rights - the very thing his novel is about. Instead, he momentarily becomes the selfless martyr, seemingly willing to sacrifice his rights for the good of the crew - but that files in the face of the first half of the episode and even where it goes. I guess the writers felt they had to shift from the audience rooting for the crew against the Doctor's wild position on his novel, to rooting for the downtrodden Doctor against the publisher's oppressive position. It would have worked just fine if his objection had consistently remained "that make solve your problem Captain, but what about mine? I still have no more legal right than a toaster!"

From a lawyer's perspective, while I appreciate it doesn't necessarily satisfy the episode's plot requirements, but it's an extremely common legal tactic to argue alternatives to make sure you don't lose. "The doctor is a person. You MUST expand the legal definition to include him. But in the event this court finds he is not a person, the story is defamatory." or "But if he isn't a person, there's no legal contract here." There's nothing wrong with making BOTH arguments contrary to the episode's suggestion that you have to pick one lane and ride it out.

As a huge fan of Measure of a Man and Drumhead (courtroom realism aside, I found the episode became a bit too jam packed, and the pivotal courtroom scenes were just far to glossed over - it basically amounted to a few anecdotes about how the doctor just "seems" like a person. I would have liked to hear some semblance of a legal argument be made for why the Doctor qualifies as a person. After the initial legal definition of a protected work was quickly addressed, the rest became a matter of "oh come on, of course he's a person". Comparing the doctor creating an original story to a replicator producing a programmed item hardly seemed like a worthy counter-argument to the Doctor's personhood - at least the publisher could have raised an analogy of something ORIGINAL a computer produces like a statistical data analysis or a level 3 diagnostic report or something.

I also thought it went somewhat unaddressed as to whether the story, created by a Starfleet computer program (Doc) might somehow therefore be property of Starfleet. I still fail to understand how if the Doctor is not a person and has no creative rights, the publisher somehow has gained rights/authority to sell the program. I guess this got lumped a little bit into Janeway not wanting to make any other legal argument than the Doctor's personhood, but it stands out to me.

As a final aside, I thought it was a bit ridiculous that it took Neelix to come up with the obvious idea of "you have to change the names and faces so it doesn't seem like us". Brilliant author Tom didn't think of that? Nor the Captain? Perhaps the intention is that the crew is so hurt/offended that they can't see past that - as much as the doctor's ego is so big he can't see past being offended by the suggestion that his work is offensive. Again, it works in the 90s "larger than life" personalities that work for the story of the week, but in modern times, it comes off as stilted and a bit one-dimensional on all parts.
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HK Star Trek
Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 8:35pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2

I was really looking forward to the show and it was great.

The showrunners found a way to naturally connect to past characters without making it appear to be blind fan service.

Some general thoughts:

- I agree with Jammer’s review of the final episode and that the show is ultimately about Picard saying goodbye to Data, and I think it’s also about Data’s humanity being told through Soji and the themes of artificial intelligence and consciousness.

- How come there wasn’t a single mention of the Dominion War? The consequences of the war would’ve been felt for decades and it’s strange there wasn’t even a passing reference.

- We also needed more insight into current state of the Alpha Quadrant and how the other powers are faring (a few minutes of exposition wouldn't have hurt).

- The Narek/Narissa scenes simply did not work.

Going forwards, the show should continue to be about these new characters & continue to introduce new personalities and stories, and where the narrative fits bring back old faces. Can you imagine how awesome it would be to have a DS9 character return (assuming it makes narrative sense)?
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Frake's Nightmare
Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 2:47pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S1: Lonely Among Us

Shame. Wesley reprising the orangey/red roll neck with chevron ribbing. Didn't know how incredibly baggy it was before. Hoping that he will grow into it, very furgal. What do they spend that budget on ?
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Frake's Nightmare
Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 2:05pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S1: The Last Outpost

Gosh - did not realize how much Next Gen was channelling TOS in it's early days!
And definitely sci-fi for those who like a big old helping of ham.
Everyone is so shouty ! And thank god they did what they did with the Ferengi after this! Terrible use of Armin Shimerman.

I did not see Wesley at all so cannot comment on his jumper, hope for something good next episode to make up for this omission.
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