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Cloudane
Fri, Mar 14, 2014, 9:52pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: The Corbomite Maneuver

Sorry, just had to get that out of my system :P The music in this episode was really, really irritating. And the tension was rather exaggerated. Oh no, a spinning cube!!! Condition: Alert!!! Music to full drama power!!!

Poor Bailey. Everyone basically picked on him and treated him relentlessly like an idiot until he cracked under the pressure of their judgement and made mistakes, thus seeming to prove them right, and feeding his sense of self-doubt into itself. I know how he feels, I've been suffering that myself with my manager at work; though oddly, recognising it may have helped me there.

I find it interesting how "purely Trek" this is, where rather than firing everything they've got, they sit and think, and don't even resort to it in last second desperation (if you're gonna die anyway..), instead just keeping calm. A couple of hundred years later with Janeway or Sisko, they probably would've blown that sphere thing to millions of tiny pieces the moment it showed the slightest hint of aggression. Makes you think.
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Cloudane
Fri, Mar 14, 2014, 9:00pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: Where No Man Has Gone Before

It begins. (I'm re-watching, in production order)

I'd forgotten how "Pilot"-y this was, albeit closer to the long term show than The Cage was.

I definitely preferred The Cage, but babes and topless fist fights were what sold shows to NBC in those days, and so it's a necessary part of the show's history. I've seen worse show pilots, I think.
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Cloudane
Mon, Feb 10, 2014, 7:38pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S6: Frame of Mind

Fans of episodes like this who are also into gaming could do worse than check out BioShock Infinite. I just finished it, it's an awesome game, and afterwards my mind turned to this episode of TNG.
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Cloudane
Wed, Jan 22, 2014, 9:02am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Night

@Jammer yes that's quite an amusing effect :)

I've also been guilty countless times of sayings things like "I hope they improve the writing of soandso". In the back of my mind I know it already finished over a decade ago and the writers have long since packed up gone home and written other things. But sometimes you get so immersed in the show (especially if you do things like watching early Voyager and mid-late DS9 in parallel to match how they aired) that you kind of forget it was all done and dusted years ago. It's interesting :)
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Cloudane
Wed, Jan 22, 2014, 5:52am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Fallen Hero

@Jim - hah, fair enough, well I can see why everyone enjoys it.

@Sintek - lol. Complete with the libe- er I mean near libellous comments. Good effort 10/10, good to see Trekkies aren't immune to casting aspersions about other people's choice of TV shows - I'll admit, I was curious about that. (I wouldn't bother compiling the inevitable list of why you find it evil and creepy, it's water off a duck's back in much the same way as the old comments about being a Trekkie were)

@Mad - to be fair, that's not exactly a stretch :)


FWIW I finished Enterprise and it was overall poor, but had some good moments in the final season.
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 6:47pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: The Siege of AR-558

Thinking about "Roddenberrism", I do love that aspect of Trek and it's pretty rare in... anything (nowadays it seems to take dipping into shows for little girls to find a bit of well-written positivity and optimism, and even then it doesn't involve humans!) and thoroughly value TNG for how well it presented it. It's also what I wanted to see Voyager and Enterprise return to.

DS9 was just different. It was without a doubt very "un-Roddenberry" but I think I just switched my brain into a different mode. I do still like realism and grittiness sometimes, especially when it's told well, and most of the time in DS9 I felt it was told brilliantly.

Ideally it should've been something completely separate and not Star Trek, but then it wouldn't have the benefit of all its history setting a foundation for "this is why you should care about these people" (this is a part of where I'm struggling with B5).

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Grumpy: "Ironic that Cloudane would compare this episode with the quality of contemporaneous Voyager. The same week this aired, Jammer doled out another 4 stars for "Timeless.""

Heh.... well, both series have their high points and their stinkers. I did feel that DS9 had better storytelling in the long run, though.
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 4:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Barge of the Dead

@Nancy "At least her experience wasn't due to a soul-sucking alien like Janeway"

Now now, I know Janeway can be a bit obnoxious at times, but she's not an alien
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 2:10pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Nightingale

As much as I laugh at Kim (not that I'm much better in my eternal dead end job - maybe it makes me feel better :P), it's just that he's written so endlessly green. I don't think it's fair to bash Mr Wang as an actor either, he could only do what was written for him.

Anyway, Kim is quite a developed character, in hindsight, after watching Enterprise with erm... wotsisname... thingy... Mayweather.
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 1:12pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: The Andorian Incident

OK thanks Jo I'll try to give it another go sometime. It must be the lengthiest set-up in history XD (just hope I can remember it all, that was always the sticky point)

To be fair, it tends to be worth watching for Ivanova and her witty snarkasm.
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 7:54am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Q2

Epilogue: Q then gets bored of humans and decides to go and be a pony-dragon-thing instead. Fluttershy > Janeway 1000 times over :)
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 7:18am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Fair Haven

Regarding the comments about the Holodeck failing while "in the act", I have just the image link for that!

b3ta.com/board/10806514
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 7:03am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S2: Minefield

"Is it just me, or does Reed have a bit of a death wish? So many times he's said he's prepared to die" (Aaron, a long time ago)

Yeah I remember him being like that a lot. I'm not sure, but I think he was meant to have some kind of depression (it wouldn't be obvious all the time as a lot of people with depression mask it so they can function in their jobs and society), but it was never really confirmed either way.
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 6:27am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Drive

Hmm, the problem with Neelix... it's actually a good question, he's just sort of annoying?

I think it's that he's so absolutely unrelentingly cheerful at all times, often when it seems inappropriate. There is only so much one can stomach of a "happy go lucky" sort of character.
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 6:17am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Broken Bow

Some relatively spoiler-free protips for those starting this show:

- Don't put your expectations sky-high of super deep meaningful prequel-ness (though there is some here and there) - expect something more like Voyager with hull plating instead of shields and you won't be too disappointed

- Yes, Archer is a boorish idiot with no diplomacy or positive leadership skills and whoever made the decision to make him captain of Earth's flagship would probably have made Neelix chief engineer and put Odo in charge of sickbay. Get used to it.

- Don't worry too much about "oh no, they screwed up the Vulcans and now they're horrible jerks". Remember, this is a prequel. If you enjoy the show otherwise, then keep watching.

- Porthos is best character and totally steals the show.
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 5:55am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Dear Doctor

Well, definitely a 4-star simply from how much discussion it's provoked!

Looking back though, I can only reiterate my complaint that the show never properly demonstrated and explained **WHY** non-interference in the development of pre-warp civilisations is so important. It was drummed into us from the beginning of Trek as the Prime Directive and we were always just kind of expected to accept this rule of wisdom. I always expected Enterprise to explain it.

The nearest thing we got was this episode, which doesn't explain it at all, and instead just adds fuel to the "why the FISH do we have this silly non-interference rule?" fire.

Great episode, terrible series.
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 5:39am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Shockwave, Part I

Jim says "I'm firmly convinced that some of you are already convinced you're going to hate every episode before you ever watch it."

Heh... there's a ring of truth to that. I'd heard from everyone else how terrible Enterprise was (and how mediocre Voyager was) and went in with low expectations.

Overall I was not a fan of ENT at all, looking back. Especially a certain arc that drags itself out through season 3 and magnifies the least desirable aspects of a certain character I already didn't like much (American anger over 9/11 just had to be channelled through Trek. Forget all the Trekkian principles and morality, the eagle is angry! Bleh.) But like any Trek series it had its golden moments that make me glad to be able to say I've seen every single Trek episode - this is one of them.
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 4:54am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Memorial

Quite fitting, that this is one of if not the episode of Voyager I always remember the most clearly. Whenever I think of Voyager I think of this episode (and the warp 10 one, unfortunately)
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 3:42am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Oasis

What a shame they only showed having "became tired of space battles" approximately once in the whole show's run then, heh.

More character-driven episodes would've been perfect! Especially since even by the end the most developed character is still the dog. I guess Braga and co had just become too jaded to press forward with such ideas at that point in Trek's history.
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Cloudane
Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 3:34am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Fusion

**** SPOILERS FOR LATER IN THE SERIES ****




We all had a tendency to slam Enterprise for "what it did to the Vulcans". If only we'd had the patience!

It is kind of explained later on when they get Surak's chakra thing and find his original teachings - at that point the way is paved for the Vulcans we know in TOS onwards. These are indeed quite different and less enlightened Vulcans and it's well explained at that point.

In fact it suddenly makes it rather interesting - I'm not the slightest bit religious myself, but imagine if someone genuinely ended up with the spirit of Jesus (or worse, the God from the Old Testament) in his head and he showed proof that all our crazy interpretations over the years were all wrong and once again here's those commandments you're supposed to be following. Gulp!

Admittedly though, it probably would've been better writing to allude to the story earlier, rather than saving it all for later, making it look like they just screwed up with the Vulcans and had to get a Trek expert in to write them out of the hole later on.




**** HERE ENDETH THE SPOILERS ****
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Cloudane
Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 7:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: The Andorian Incident

Michael: Sorry, I hadn't been keeping up with the comments!
A year late here, but..
Yes and no with B5. To be honest, I ground to a halt watching it some time late season 2 / early season 3. That's not to suggest it's bad, in fact it's kind of like DS9 sometimes was with its long complicated story weaving which I enjoy, but if anything it's *too* complicated and for every mystery that's solved 5 more pop up.

You like action right? There's a lot of that. But you can expect a lot of talk as well.

I intend to resume watching it at some point. It's good, don't get me wrong, I just don't see it in the same "best thing in the universe that ever was" light that its fans do - to be honest, people hype it up so darn much I can't help but label it "vastly overrated" even though it's fairly good, if that makes sense.

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Enjoying re-reading some of my old comments
"This isn't an inexperienced captain, it's a moron. Let's not put him in that light too often eh?"

Spoiler: They did. A lot. The hot-headed buffoon you see handling situations with the grace and tact of a wounded bull in this episode is pretty much the Captain you get for the rest of the show...
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Cloudane
Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 7:18pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Shuttlepod One

Ohh I hadn't thought of Marooned. Good shout. I'd pay to see Trip chow down on some dog food :)
"Hey Malcolm... now I know why a dog licks its balls"


As for Michael's comment about Reed's accent, it's called British. I'm glad to hear we're irritating :P
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Cloudane
Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 4:14pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Life Line

Regarding plot holes, in sci-fi and fantasy most can be explained away one way or another either in the story or in your head. But sometimes with the really deep plot holes, it can come across as laziness.

I think if you're going to be lazy and not care about plot inconsistencies, at least be honest about it and turn it into a humorous thing (see Doctor Who for many examples of "wibbly wobbly hand waving stuff")
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Cloud
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 2:56am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Facets

Rewatched this last night after reading the novel "Lives of Dax" and it gave me a new appreciation for it. It's quite interesting going back on the source material knowing more about those past lives (even if it's not strictly canon, but TBH, as the original Trek timeline has been thrown away now by JJ Abrams I consider them all canon personally - there's nothing to lose. If I'm wrong and the original timeline is resurrected one day, it'll be one of the happiest mistakes I've ever made anyway).
On that basis, the loosest connection was Audrid, who I think might've been a bit more solemn.

Anyway as a cap off for that novel I loved it, a charming look back through the perspective of the best DS9 Dax. I don't really understand the fuss about her memories or the nature of Odo - it's Star Trek, holes and contradictions appear all over the place (look at the original Trill from TNG - they had ridged foreheads, the symbiont had greater control and humans could become hosts) and as it's a sci-fi world if you put your imagination to work you can usually create an explanation for anything (as the books often do, it seems). You'll enjoy it far better when accepting that they didn't have time to explain every little inconsistency, and maybe even have a bit of fun filling in the gaps!

Even an individual can suppress his or her memories, or forget things, so why not the symbiont. I view this whole thing as a bit like being put into hypnosis to delve into your brain's more difficult-to-reach long term memories or something along those lines and that of course means repressed memories might come out too.

On the weaker side of things, and I seem to recall the other major DS9 reviewer (Tim Lynch) mentioning it: we have Jadzia doing the Ferengi equivalent of reaching down Quark's pants and stroking him off in the middle of the room, and basically implying he'll get more sexy fun times if he co-operates. Gross. Why so keen to get someone who doesn't want to help and just looks out for himself (some friend) anyway, but I guess DS9's writers did have a bit of a thing for the hilarity of Quark as a female, it happens a couple more times in the show's run.

Curdo (I'd forgotten there was a Tuvix before Tuvix!) would be a bit much in the long term I think unless he mellowed out a bit. "I'm Fun Odo! Fun fun fun! Yay, fun!", er no. It'd wear very thin. It works really well when he gets serious and confesses his feelings, though, and Odo was an inspired choice for this character in hindsight knowing what Odo was like when it comes to internalising matters of the heart.

Agreed on others' comments about Rom. I was proud of that guy when he stood up to Quark and said his son's happiness is more important than any latinum, it was very touching particularly coming from a Ferengi, who genuinely do tend to put profits before family.

A 3.5 for me in context, I just wish the time had been more evenly distributed between the past hosts, then it would've been a 4.
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Cloudane
Fri, May 17, 2013, 5:50am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: All Good Things...

The sky's the limit!

I choked up seeing the final scene of TNG, still do every time, and even did reading the last paragraph of the review.

A beautiful ending to an amazing series.
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Cloudane
Fri, May 17, 2013, 5:10am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Journey's End

As one of the rare people who kind of liked Wesley (I was a young nerd kid myself) I really disliked the assassination of his character and turning him into a brat as a form of closure. Oh well.

I wonder how the Traveller stuff would be seen if it were written today. Certain subjects have become more touchy in society, and I'm not sure in the modern day how they'd take "older guy who has always had a bit of a shine for this young boy stalks him and then takes him on a magical adventure"
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