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Re: BSG S2: Fragged
Why do people think Crashdown was bluffing? I don't. Cally would've had a big hole in her head if Gaius hadn't intervened. Crashdown had totally backed himself into a corner and would've shot her because he didn't know what else to do, plus in his eyes he had the right to do it (he shares the viewpoint of some of the posters above). However Cally was so petrified no way was she able to move and do what Crashdown was ordering her to do, a good leader wouldn't have got them into the situation they were in in the first place, also would've accepted that Cally couldn't move and regrouped.
Excellent episode anyway. I agree the stuff on the Galactica is weaker but is necessary to move the story arc forward.
Why do people think Crashdown was bluffing? I don't. Cally would've had a big hole in her head if Gaius hadn't intervened. Crashdown had totally backed himself into a corner and would've shot her because he didn't know what else to do, plus in his eyes he had the right to do it (he shares the viewpoint of some of the posters above). However Cally was so petrified no way was she able to move and do what Crashdown was ordering her to do, a good leader wouldn't have got them into the situation they were in in the first place, also would've accepted that Cally couldn't move and regrouped.
Excellent episode anyway. I agree the stuff on the Galactica is weaker but is necessary to move the story arc forward.
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 2
@Mal
In its defence we did get rather a lot of Klingons in season 1, scenes on Qo'nos too. So it did start off not exclusively human.
I agree about the crew, and this season. There' s Linus of course but he's used as a figure of fun which I find irritating. I mean who is he, where's his home planet etc? Is he just there to be laughed at? Seems so. Not very Trekkian.
Writers seem keener on highlighting human diversity rather than exploring alien diversity.
@Mal
In its defence we did get rather a lot of Klingons in season 1, scenes on Qo'nos too. So it did start off not exclusively human.
I agree about the crew, and this season. There' s Linus of course but he's used as a figure of fun which I find irritating. I mean who is he, where's his home planet etc? Is he just there to be laughed at? Seems so. Not very Trekkian.
Writers seem keener on highlighting human diversity rather than exploring alien diversity.
Re: BSG S1: Water
Bloody shaky camera work!!! Grrr! I was really enjoying this show until this started up - surely they weren't doing it in previous episodes? Seems quite a dated effect to me now too. Does it carry on like this all the way through? Please NO!!!
At least I can now say something positive about Discovery: the camera operators don't shake the cameras about like they've got the DTs.
Bloody shaky camera work!!! Grrr! I was really enjoying this show until this started up - surely they weren't doing it in previous episodes? Seems quite a dated effect to me now too. Does it carry on like this all the way through? Please NO!!!
At least I can now say something positive about Discovery: the camera operators don't shake the cameras about like they've got the DTs.
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 2
So who is 'San'??? Not that I care all that much but in earlier episodes we kept getting shown Phillipa's traumatic bloody flashbacks involving San. Then she casually mentions a Husan character from her past who she must tell Burnham about one day and then she steps through the portal. These Discovery writers drive me nuts. Is this San 'mystery' supposed to make me want to tune into any Georgiou spin off to find out, or did they run out of time to explain the flashbacks but realised they needed to cover them so hastily shoved in the reference before she went off into the wide blue yonder???
So who is 'San'??? Not that I care all that much but in earlier episodes we kept getting shown Phillipa's traumatic bloody flashbacks involving San. Then she casually mentions a Husan character from her past who she must tell Burnham about one day and then she steps through the portal. These Discovery writers drive me nuts. Is this San 'mystery' supposed to make me want to tune into any Georgiou spin off to find out, or did they run out of time to explain the flashbacks but realised they needed to cover them so hastily shoved in the reference before she went off into the wide blue yonder???
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 2
@Nick
No Lorca! WTF?! I accidentally read your comment in the comment thread, glad I did or otherwise I'd have spent the entire episode waiting for him to show up. What a let down. Did they keep saying his name on purpose to generate an air of suspense and lure people into watching?! I thought Issacs wanted to return. BAH HUMBUG!!!
@Nick
No Lorca! WTF?! I accidentally read your comment in the comment thread, glad I did or otherwise I'd have spent the entire episode waiting for him to show up. What a let down. Did they keep saying his name on purpose to generate an air of suspense and lure people into watching?! I thought Issacs wanted to return. BAH HUMBUG!!!
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 1
@Booming
Agreed. You've definitely got the measure of these Discovery writers!
@Booming
Agreed. You've definitely got the measure of these Discovery writers!
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 1
@Booming, Tommy D
Hmmm... Actually thinking about it they have all sorts of races on board who will have their own forms of exercise possibly involving very pointy swords. Letting PU Philippa loose in there though - not sure this is a good idea!
Do they have a holodeck? I don't remember one. Not sure if they exist in Discovery's original timeline.
@Booming, Tommy D
Hmmm... Actually thinking about it they have all sorts of races on board who will have their own forms of exercise possibly involving very pointy swords. Letting PU Philippa loose in there though - not sure this is a good idea!
Do they have a holodeck? I don't remember one. Not sure if they exist in Discovery's original timeline.
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 1
@Tommy D
Anything involving big pointy swords alarms me, along with any violence even when ritualised, but I'm a wimp. I imagined them doing a lot of Klingon style stuff in there.
@Tommy D
Anything involving big pointy swords alarms me, along with any violence even when ritualised, but I'm a wimp. I imagined them doing a lot of Klingon style stuff in there.
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 1
@Midshipmannorris
"perhaps there are other possibilities"
Georgiou's actions in the MU could reset the PU - Discovery will never travel to the future would be the most extreme possibility, I doubt the writers will do that though.
Perhaps PU Lorca will live because of her actions here, maybe he was never meant to die.
Personally I've found Georgiou's conundrum fascinating - very unwillingly dragged into the PU, learning about the PU, seeing what's she's learnt from the time there and how she applies it to the MU (not sure she's changed exactly, but she's learnt).
No those aren't her quarters. I think it's some kind of alarming martial arts gym.
We haven't seen PU Burnham in the series before, she's only been talked about. She turns out to be more alarming than I'd anticipated!
@Midshipmannorris
"perhaps there are other possibilities"
Georgiou's actions in the MU could reset the PU - Discovery will never travel to the future would be the most extreme possibility, I doubt the writers will do that though.
Perhaps PU Lorca will live because of her actions here, maybe he was never meant to die.
Personally I've found Georgiou's conundrum fascinating - very unwillingly dragged into the PU, learning about the PU, seeing what's she's learnt from the time there and how she applies it to the MU (not sure she's changed exactly, but she's learnt).
No those aren't her quarters. I think it's some kind of alarming martial arts gym.
We haven't seen PU Burnham in the series before, she's only been talked about. She turns out to be more alarming than I'd anticipated!
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 1
@booming
PU Stamets was in a coma and mentally travelled into the spore network thing where he met MU Stamets who was conducting experiments on the network which nearly killed it.
MU Stamets was conspiring with Lorca against Georgiou which she no doubt remembered when she killed him. In Season 1 it's Lorca who kills him, throws him into that pit thing.
I've banished the stuff about Culber coming alive again from my head...
@booming
PU Stamets was in a coma and mentally travelled into the spore network thing where he met MU Stamets who was conducting experiments on the network which nearly killed it.
MU Stamets was conspiring with Lorca against Georgiou which she no doubt remembered when she killed him. In Season 1 it's Lorca who kills him, throws him into that pit thing.
I've banished the stuff about Culber coming alive again from my head...
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 1
PS Lorca in the next episode will actually turn out to be PU Lorca who will wander off into the sunset with Georgiou to work with Section 31, or be temporal agents together as MU Georgiou here proves her worth as someone able to tamper with time for the greater good. Or something.
PS Lorca in the next episode will actually turn out to be PU Lorca who will wander off into the sunset with Georgiou to work with Section 31, or be temporal agents together as MU Georgiou here proves her worth as someone able to tamper with time for the greater good. Or something.
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 1
@booming
If MU Stamets is dead this is going to change the Discovery timeline from season 1 - all that stuff with PU Stamets wandering around with him in the wotsit network.
My head hurts...
@booming
If MU Stamets is dead this is going to change the Discovery timeline from season 1 - all that stuff with PU Stamets wandering around with him in the wotsit network.
My head hurts...
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 1
@Booming
Just to nit pick the ceremony was for the new ship. Maybe you were watching at the wrong speed and missed that!
@Booming
Just to nit pick the ceremony was for the new ship. Maybe you were watching at the wrong speed and missed that!
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 1
I found it interesting that Georgiou's time the PU has made her a better tactician eg in not killing the MU Saru she gained a useful set of eyes and ears. Impossible to work out her reasons for sparing him - this, some kind of grudging respect for PU Saru, mixture of both.
Curious the MU Saru knows she isn't a threat to him (not a ganglia in sight).
I found it interesting that Georgiou's time the PU has made her a better tactician eg in not killing the MU Saru she gained a useful set of eyes and ears. Impossible to work out her reasons for sparing him - this, some kind of grudging respect for PU Saru, mixture of both.
Curious the MU Saru knows she isn't a threat to him (not a ganglia in sight).
Re: DSC S3: Terra Firma, Part 1
Surely the only cure for Georgiou is to send her back in time to the point before Discovery jumped?
Is Carl the Doorman a Q???
Enjoyed this episode. However if Lorca doesn't show up next week that's going to be really disappointing after all the name dropping.
Surely the only cure for Georgiou is to send her back in time to the point before Discovery jumped?
Is Carl the Doorman a Q???
Enjoyed this episode. However if Lorca doesn't show up next week that's going to be really disappointing after all the name dropping.
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
@Omar
This in untrue. Apart from anything else what about intersex people?
@Omar
This in untrue. Apart from anything else what about intersex people?
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
Cogenitor - Jammer refers to this character as a 'she' but I don't think this character has a gender. Maybe I'm misremembering.
Cogenitor - Jammer refers to this character as a 'she' but I don't think this character has a gender. Maybe I'm misremembering.
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
I've just remembered there's a they character in Enterprise. The episode is Cogenitor (season 2, episode 22). Jammer was keen, he gave it 4 stars!
I've just remembered there's a they character in Enterprise. The episode is Cogenitor (season 2, episode 22). Jammer was keen, he gave it 4 stars!
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
@Booming
Oh there's a Discovery episode Forget Me Not and you meant that. I can't even remember the episode titles! (or the names of the bridge crew... not sure if it's my brain or the writing).
@Booming
Oh there's a Discovery episode Forget Me Not and you meant that. I can't even remember the episode titles! (or the names of the bridge crew... not sure if it's my brain or the writing).
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
@greycat
There's a British trans actor (Rebecca Root) in a couple of episodes of Queen's Gambit. (music teacher at the orphanage). She was also the main character in a BBC2 comedy series Boy Meets Girl which I enjoyed. Worth finding if on YouTube.
I just mention it in passing for anyone who's interested.
Personally I found the Discovery scene initially ok but it just went on and on and on, and I also found Stamets and Culber on the verge of patronising. It wasn't subtle that's for sure.
I've wondered why some or most Trills aren't just a 'they' usually. Perhaps we can blame the Universal Translator.....
@greycat
There's a British trans actor (Rebecca Root) in a couple of episodes of Queen's Gambit. (music teacher at the orphanage). She was also the main character in a BBC2 comedy series Boy Meets Girl which I enjoyed. Worth finding if on YouTube.
I just mention it in passing for anyone who's interested.
Personally I found the Discovery scene initially ok but it just went on and on and on, and I also found Stamets and Culber on the verge of patronising. It wasn't subtle that's for sure.
I've wondered why some or most Trills aren't just a 'they' usually. Perhaps we can blame the Universal Translator.....
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
Big improvement on last week and I enjoyed watching it. Osyraa is a bit of a rubbish one dimensional villain though, seems to have strayed in from the MU.
Given all this medical advancement can't they regrow Ryn's antennae???
Prediction: San is MU Michael's mother and Georgiou's bestie who she ends up killing and wishing she hadn't although as a Terran she can't acknowledge her regret.
@Jaxemer11
What "lovey dovey crap between Burnham and Book"? I didn't notice anything objectionable. Seemed quite restrained to me.
Big improvement on last week and I enjoyed watching it. Osyraa is a bit of a rubbish one dimensional villain though, seems to have strayed in from the MU.
Given all this medical advancement can't they regrow Ryn's antennae???
Prediction: San is MU Michael's mother and Georgiou's bestie who she ends up killing and wishing she hadn't although as a Terran she can't acknowledge her regret.
@Jaxemer11
What "lovey dovey crap between Burnham and Book"? I didn't notice anything objectionable. Seemed quite restrained to me.
Re: DSC S3: Unification III
@Stacy
I didn't find the comment about Lwaxana misogynistic. I read it as the poster meaning Michael behaves as if raised by the heart on sleeve, impulsive Lwaxana on Betazoid rather than by logic is all Sarek on Vulcan. I don't recall seeing her father as a character so he can't be referenced. Betazoid and Vulcan seem on opposite sides of one another hence the poster's comment.
I'm not fond of Troi as a character but she's presented as a well trained Starfleet officer, part of the crew involved in the smooth running of Enterprise. Not how Michael behaves - her impulses and what she thinks are the right things to do come first.
@Stacy
I didn't find the comment about Lwaxana misogynistic. I read it as the poster meaning Michael behaves as if raised by the heart on sleeve, impulsive Lwaxana on Betazoid rather than by logic is all Sarek on Vulcan. I don't recall seeing her father as a character so he can't be referenced. Betazoid and Vulcan seem on opposite sides of one another hence the poster's comment.
I'm not fond of Troi as a character but she's presented as a well trained Starfleet officer, part of the crew involved in the smooth running of Enterprise. Not how Michael behaves - her impulses and what she thinks are the right things to do come first.
Re: DSC S3: Unification III
@Stacy
I agree, it is dominated by male views and it's good to read your perspective.
Possibly on a par with your thoughts about the crying criticism I do get irritated by comments on an actor's appearance, and these do seem to revolve around the female characters Michael and Tilly. There's a nasty one about Tilly a few posts above this one.
Michael's emotionalism doesn't really make much sense to me for her character. Expressing emotion in itself isn't wrong but as Dave in MN points out she was raised on Vulcan and trained in NOT expressing emotion, and also trained in controlling impulses.
@Stacy
I agree, it is dominated by male views and it's good to read your perspective.
Possibly on a par with your thoughts about the crying criticism I do get irritated by comments on an actor's appearance, and these do seem to revolve around the female characters Michael and Tilly. There's a nasty one about Tilly a few posts above this one.
Michael's emotionalism doesn't really make much sense to me for her character. Expressing emotion in itself isn't wrong but as Dave in MN points out she was raised on Vulcan and trained in NOT expressing emotion, and also trained in controlling impulses.
Re: DSC S3: Unification III
@Mertov
I actually agree about the snark and don't engage in it.
I really just wanted to point out in my response to @Stacy that I thought the expression of emotion doesn't necessarily relate to gender. @Stacy's post seemed to me to be implying that to be openly emotional was a girl thing. I tend to keep my emotions to myself but have known plenty of emotional men.
@Mertov
I actually agree about the snark and don't engage in it.
I really just wanted to point out in my response to @Stacy that I thought the expression of emotion doesn't necessarily relate to gender. @Stacy's post seemed to me to be implying that to be openly emotional was a girl thing. I tend to keep my emotions to myself but have known plenty of emotional men.
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