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Weiss
Mon, Aug 1, 2016, 2:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek Into Darkness

I still think this was Deep Space Nine, Homecoming 2 parter repacked with the name Khan. Changelings with Klingon fake threat, check. Admiral going rouge, Check. Admiral having a powerful warship to take control using conspiracy, check.

and their use of Section 31, although not part of that episode was a deep space nine invention
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Weiss
Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 1:34am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: The Collaborator

I just watched this ep and noticed Odo's very subtle reaction to hearing kira loves Bareil. He was saddened in his reaction and but quickly hid it and misdirected kira interpretation of his reaction. Very excellent scene well written. This set up his love story for her.

When I watched these eps in my teens of the bajorans I was always bored, although I always loved winns character. But now as I am older I find these eps very gripping! All the twists visions all excellently handled. It was hard telling what winns involvement was, maybe she did call the collaborator, she did have a sideways glance at him. But she was also desperate so she threw everything at the window, even trying to get a implicit endorcemtn from sisko. Her becoming kai was the worst outcome, but did the prophets want her to become kai?

Quark figuring out whaat odo couldnt with security makes sense, he is a conmen and thinks differnetly. Conversely quark being a security chief would be a terible idea, he lacks a ethical code to maintain security

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weiss
Sat, Aug 16, 2014, 11:55pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: The Jem'Hadar

It is disappointing that we only saw the vorta energy weapon once. But given the vorta are clever from this episode, she was essentially the brains of the group, later seasons it makes sense that they showed them to be diplomats and strategists. And their intelligence conniving nature was so much more worth it.
I read in memory alpha that the dominion already knew of the federation and odo was part of the plan, b4 the wormhole was found out. The wormhole changed the first contact invasion dynamic. FederTion would never be contant with staying in their own galaxy, they need to push their ideas on others...
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weiss
Tue, Aug 12, 2014, 11:36pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S4: Broken Link

Realized the founder was lying or wrong on all accounts... tain was alibe, garak survived, and cardassia.
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Weiss
Wed, May 22, 2013, 1:08pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek Into Darkness

I hated the whole Khan's healing blood plotline... The moral implications of this were never got into.

In the original wrath of Khan, they talked about Genesis weapon (and they did go into the morality of using the device). Here they in essence use Khan's blood to give life, but never talk about the moral implications, just a plot device to move the story forwad. why even chase down Khan, when you have 72 others with the same blood.
Hell, this is where I miss Babylon 5, they had an episode called Deathwalker, where they went into the moral implications of creating a immortality serum (which required the death of millions to create the serum so a million more can live forever). Hell, wouldnt there be a concern that well if they can heal Kirk, why not use this blood for healing everyone else on Earth (use the 72 to heal humanity)??? They would have been better not going into this plot device... unfortunately this is where movies have to dumb down ideas (and 2 hours is not enough to delve into the deep)
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Weiss
Wed, May 22, 2013, 1:00pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek Into Darkness

I enjoyed watching the move... mostly because it reminded me of why I loved Deep Space Nine...

I do no think this was as much a rip of Wrath of Khan, as it was ripping off (or homage) to DS9...

(1) the plot was pretty much Homefront and Paradise Lost... replace Changeling with Klingon false threat to divert attention (attack on the heart of Starfleet in San Francisco, which was until DS9 was never seen visually in any trek)
(2) reveal that an Admiral is behind the conspiracy and attempting to milaterize Earth
(3) using the good guys (Sisko/Odo or Kirk here) to unwittingly push the agenda without knowing it, and evetually realizing they were had and trying to stop it
(4) Admiral having his own loyalist starfleet agents with their own Starship (thank you Red Squad), which have a showdown with the good guys ships (in ds9 they were pummeling the Defiant, here the Enterprise). and the good guys having a subplot that involves investigating the Admirals loyalist crew (Scotty here, Nog in DS9)

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I think what made me enjoy it was mostly Peter Weller as the lead villain (enjoy him always) and the "Mother" of references to Section 31. Which was originally created in Deep Space Nine.
In thinking about it, there is symmetry... in DS9, Bashir was genetically engineered and Section 31 tried to recruit him (and he tried to destroy them for the good guys)... in this one Wrath was found by Section 31, became an agent for them and tried to destroy them also.

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The other thing I kept thinking during this movie was the Futurama quote by The Robot Devil "Ah, my ridiculously circuitous plan is one-quarter complete"... this movie pretty much kept moving at a break neck pace to avoid people thinking about the plotholes.

enjoyable nonetheless (I still wish they never created this reboot and just continued the original timeline).

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Weiss
Wed, Jul 25, 2012, 12:51pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: Call to Arms

this episode had of the most exciting tense moments of any trek.... the build up and activation of the mines... complete heartstopper... and then when it all lights up finally, relief!

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Weiss
Wed, Jul 25, 2012, 12:37pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S6: Tapestry

a younger Picard played by an old picard,
reminds of Its alwys sunny, a young Danny Devito played by old DeVito.
sunny was better because DeVito wore a god awful wig and played it up as if he was a young man...

im looking at you picard where is the wig!!!!!!
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Weiss
Wed, Jun 6, 2012, 10:11am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S6: Relics

bringing old stars to new shows was done in ds9 and voyager (but i dont care for voyager so wont even bother listing)... picard in pilot, thomas riker (in a clever twist)... hell they even did a reverse and brought Bashir onto TNG (for the Data episode)!, Gowron, Duras's son, Lursa Betor, Kang/Koloth (weren't they in TOS?), and then the whole Tribble episode... i miss DS9

the only one in voyager i cared for was quark in the pilot.
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Weiss
Fri, Oct 7, 2011, 5:08pm (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S4: The Hub

NoPoet ... what are u talking about... what does BSG have anything to do about Lost... 2 completely different shows...1 is about war and extinction... the other is about regular relatable people dealing with each other...they both have a backdrop of fantasy.

both are emotional shows and that is probably the one common theme that makes (at least me) care for the characters and what happens to them. and yeah both have fascinating characters...
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Weiss
Fri, Sep 30, 2011, 11:35am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Equinox, Part I

even without DS9, Voyager would be pretty mundane. Just look at how Enterpise was, it came after voyager, and it was hard to believe you could go any lower than voyager.

for a brilliant exciting 2 hr premier with caretaker, the series strove to go down hill.

so many interesting concepts that never were fully realized, how about having a universe where you have to continuously deal with the year of hell, equinox, species whatever... that would have been interesting. instead of the big reset.

spilled milk
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Weiss
Tue, Sep 27, 2011, 6:09pm (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S3: Occupation/Precipice

in some ways I think Boomer is to the cylons as Baltar is to humans.

they both are pretty messed up characters, conflicted to their core, and their allegiances switch often, but eventually they both belong to their respective race (unlike Six who crossed over to helping humans).
Baltar does a lot of his decisions based on self preservation, but on occasion he has moments of altruism (or what he perceives as such, eg. when curing Roslin of cancer). Sharon, i think is based on bitterness (but she also wants to help out, like in downloaded and in the finale). yeah, she helped them during downloaded but she doesnt have any more connections to humanity, at least Six has her head Baltar to push her. Boomer is looking to belong somewhere.

spoilers
(and later it is revealed that Cavil has been working her/trying to influence her. making her feel part of the Cylon community)
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Weiss
Tue, Sep 27, 2011, 5:38pm (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S4: No Exit

Ok technically it wasn't cancelled. Scifi just put the writing on the wall that they wouldn't commit to any more episodes after the fourth. They didnt want to fund BSG, which was expensive (and they did the same math as they did with Farscape, that the cost didnt outweigh the viewership). BSG writers were lucky enough to get the warning early enough in season 3 that they decided to just pack everything into the final season and end on their own terms.

see article
http : //www.ugo.com/tv/cancelled-too-soon
(remove space)
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fyi, Caprica is a testimony to the fact that Scifi channel was looking for cheaper alternatives then the costly BSG. having that be planet base was cheaper. but it was also boring. that was then cancelled... i think the math on spinoffs are that they are cheaper, the new actor salaries are not as costly as the ones on an older show (take a look at all the spinoff that SG1 spawned).

scifi channel likes to end shows fast that cost money and are quality... it has happened before and it will happen again...
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Weiss
Fri, Sep 23, 2011, 4:23pm (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S3: A Measure of Salvation

this morality play reminds of Simpsons way back, when the real Skinner showed up, he was a complete ass, and a military MIA vet who society treats with respect. by the end of the episode his mom tied him to a train and said bye to him, thanks for your service, but she would rather have her fake son.

sometimes people don't choose the right moral decision, because it just isn't what feels good or is right for personal interests

bsg needed to release that virus b/c their survival is at stake, this isnt a college debate. do what you need to survive, and accept the punishment for that action later, better than never if you are dead.

now helo's action were convenient, seemed like he and athena would be in the brig temporarily when this virus should be unleashed.
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Weiss
Fri, Sep 23, 2011, 3:59pm (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S3: Torn

this ep prob didnt need a to be contd, same thing with that ep when they found the temple of Five.

but there are some eps which make sense to have, like season 1, 2 and 3 finales, those were all very intertwined in themes that they needed that connection. also the pegasus ep.

although all of season 4 would count as to be contd :)
or at least the first 12 and last 12
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Weiss
Mon, Sep 19, 2011, 1:50pm (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S2: Pegasus

I think they brought int the Pegasus to continue their theme of showing the lesson that BSG needs to create a better socieity, not just go back to the old way.

Cain is the past, clearly defined, no grays, just black and white.
The gray texture come from the BSG crew, they are learning, not sure what the right choice is, they have had a positive experience with couple Cylons, so they are at least asking questions. Pegasus does not care to ask questions, or learn.

eventually the BSG crew would cleanse themselves of their own hard-liners who were unwilling to change, but the Pegasus was a starting point for that conflict and theme.
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Weiss
Mon, Sep 19, 2011, 10:45am (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S3: Crossroads, Part 2

alexei, I don't think BSG comes fron the vein of Voyager. yes, Voyager was crap, but I think that was more in line with the Lost in Space/Farscape line of being thrown to another galaxy and having adventrues (Farscape excellently became what Voyager should have been). maybe even Lost falls into this thread. I would call it Alice in Wonderland scifi.

I think BSG is more in line with the Babylon 5, maybe even Deep Space Nine type scifi. A constant analysis of the human condition as it relates to a military life, an endless war, and the eventual reevalution (or reaffirming) of princples to change the society/galaxy around them. (if Earth 2 had got past season 1, it would have fallen into this category).
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Weiss
Fri, Sep 16, 2011, 3:25pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Tuvix

I watched last week's Doctor Who, where Amy lives a whole life and meets here young self. But her husband, is forced to choose which one lives, because both people are the same, but cannot exist in the same universe.
the episode was kinda boring, and very contrived,

but it reminded me of Tuvix. and this is one of the few time I will ever say that Voyager did a good job (yeah there were flaws in this episode). But the dilemma was presented in an interesting way, or maybe my memory is colored after 15 years and I just liked the Tuvix character (more than I cared for future Amy)
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Weiss
Fri, Sep 16, 2011, 10:26am (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S3: Rapture

I think it was related to Lawless request to be off the show, but as with most good shows/writers, they figured that into the plot. and at least we got to see Biers again later on and get resolution (although they kinda left it hanging again for her! wtf).

happy for that, considering I am still pissed with all the setup in B5 for Talia's character, then she also get "boxed" and dismantled and her plot points never get seen again. lawless might not have pissed the writers off with her request as much as talia's actress did.
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Weiss
Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 1:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Valiant

i think Nic was right earlier, these people are not normal starfleet (although what exactly is normal starfleet, and who doesn't violate prime directives).

these ppl were selected because they were amoral, loyal, and smart, not the most honest and broad minded. Admiral Leyton would not have selected them otherwise.

my disappointment stems from having never seen htat dominoin ship again. (did we?)
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Weiss
Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 3:54pm (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S2: Downloaded

Tricia once said in an interview, that she views the killing of the baby, not as an act of cruelty, but mercy. she knew the holocaust was coming and killed the baby to prevent it from experiencing it.
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Weiss
Thu, Aug 4, 2011, 12:56pm (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S4: No Exit

(Oh, and for anyone who's going to mention B5, save it. I have not seen it and have no comment.)

-just to note, B5 may have been planned, but they did have to make huge adjustments throughout from the miniseries, all the way thru to the final season.
when you are dealing with miniseries turned into shows, and trying to produce long term tv, shit happens, actors decide to leave, you find good actors and beef up their role (look at Ben on Lost), plotlines turn out much more boring on screen and need to be revamped, or they run thru material faster, character get injured in real life and you write that into the show (starbuck, ivanova, garibaldi).

it is a credit that you can write 4 years worth of good tv.

BSG became contrived the moment Head Six showed up and told Baltar all this God info that no one else would know (other than the writers). but it was an enjoyable ride
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just realized that BSG started as a 4 hour miniseries that turned into a 4 year tv show (then got cancelled).
my favorite show Farscape, started with a 4 year tv show, got cancelled and were able to write a 4 hour miniseries to finish up. now that show was completely absurd, yet they made 90% of the plot seem realistic in terms of their universe they built.
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Weiss
Thu, Aug 4, 2011, 10:25am (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S1: Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down

Nic,

Ellen's exist. although this character itself seems to embody several negative characteristics into one (alcoholic and floozy and creator of distrust)

having dated once a girl who I brought to a party, she was new to my classmates, so it was like a feeding frenzy, she like the attention, they flirted with her that encouraged her to keep hitting on them in return (and getting their phone numbers). afterwards, she tried calling them, but they picked up on the fact that she was annoying, didnt call her back. then she tried to use me to get back to meeting the other guys. i shut her out.
ellen's are not a pleasant type, and i am not an enabler or tolerate bull (she miscalculated)

conversely, I am sure there are men who act like ellen, who hit on everyone and act obnoxious.

Ellen is not a fantasy, the word is nightmare, although there probably is a right person for her.
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Weiss
Wed, May 25, 2011, 11:11am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: The Inner Light

I think Garibaldi also had a season 3 episdoe (severed dreams?) where he broke his leg during a fight scene and they showed it in the next episode.

i think ivanova was in s2 with the drazi.
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didnt Picard play the flute again in a later episode?
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Weiss
Wed, May 25, 2011, 10:55am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: I, Borg

lions were not wiped out from the face of the earth... humans became stronger than them (and other competitors)...lions still exist and are top players in the animal kingdom, but humans are stronger... athough we know a lion can kill us, we dont go about unleashing viruses to wipe out lions

the federation are allowing their opponents to survive... but that does not mean they cannot become stronger... and really who knows what the consequences of destroying the borg will be to the whole galaxy, maybe their destruction (before their time) would create an imbalance (similar to destroying any species on Earth)

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although i do think that your logic was pursued in DS9 with the dominion, unleashing the virus.
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