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Quarkissnyder
Fri, Nov 17, 2017, 10:07pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: What You Leave Behind

That was a Lord of the Rings level of endless denouement.

And speaking of LOTR, was anyone else expecting Gollum to come out of nowhere to grab the book and then fall into the volcano?

The main issue with the pagh wraith subplot is that it had absolutely nothing to do with the war with the Dominion. I had forgotten that. Even until almost the end of the episode I kept expecting them to tie it in somehow. That the pagh wraiths would enter into a last minute alliance with the Dominion, once again tipping the balance, until Sisko sacrifices his life.

Also, his death, or "death", or whatever, didn't really satisfy the prophesy that he and Kassidy would know only pain (I forget the exact prophecy). They seemed like a pleasant enough couple, but not like Kassidy would not get on just fine without him, as single mother.
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Quarkissnyder
Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 2:12pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Dogs of War

The Ferengi story was stupid and has been done before. As a previous commenter mentioned, this is not the first time Quark thought he was going to be Negus. He's not qualified -- he hasn't even lived on his homeworld for years or decades. Also, wasn't he excommunicated? Rom is even less qualified. Neither of them have any working knowledge of politics or the players, and Rom is not capable of learning that in time to avoid a disaster. As usual, any time Ferengi culture or politics comes into play they end up being insulted as somehow simpler or stupider than other worlds.

I also did not think that this was a good ending to Quark's character arc. He is so much more multilayered than greedy capitalist. Before the show started he sold food cheaply to Bajorans because he felt sorry for them. He was a hero of the current war. I would love to have seen him accept himself in all his contradictions, not chop off half of his personality.

I liked a lot about the pregnancy scene. Sisko's knee jerk reaction "are you sure" and then back-pedaling was spot on. The fact that birth control was his responsibility and he blew it was a nice touch, although I like to think that in the future we will have more failproof birth control methods. Nevertheless, part of me was thinking this is like an episode of Roseanne -- his child will be the same age as his grandchildren. Yuck.

The thing about both Ferenginar and Risa -- where are they in this war? Why are they safe when the rest of the quadrant is plummeting into war, fear and destruction?
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Quarkissnyder
Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 4:52pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Extreme Measures

Are there no vulcans on DS9? We've seen them in the corridors.

There is an entire planet full of Bajorans who fought in the resistance. Why does it have to be Kira?

What about that lone founder that came through DS9 a while back. He linked with Odo. Is he dead now?
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Quarkissnyder
Sat, Oct 14, 2017, 4:52pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Tacking into the Wind

This was a great episode, in the highest fantasy tradition of coming out the other side of a brutal war with society remade for the better. (That's one reason why it's called fantasy.)

I definitely have some quibbles though.

Odo didn't bring his bucket? He's lying in bed, sick and exhausted. Why doesn't he rest?

I loved the Worf fight and the aftermath.

But . . .

Really, anyone who kills the emporor gets to become emporor? There would be a new gym rat on the throne at the end of every single day.

Julian really needs to sleep.

Can you just take off your uniform and do whatever you want? I assume Worf is going to court-martialed now?
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Quarkissnyder
Thu, Oct 12, 2017, 9:23pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: When it Rains...

When some asks Dukat his name, does he say "I am nobody"?
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Quarkissnyder
Sun, Aug 27, 2017, 5:42pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Changing Face of Evil

I don't understand why we don't hear the Breen speaking English through the universal translator like we hear every other species. Is that ever explained?
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Quarkissnyder
Wed, Aug 23, 2017, 5:03pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Strange Bedfellows

Was there another Weyoun clone on the ship waiting to be activated? Does he come with his own giant slab of ice to keep him cold? Why does he have the old Weyoun's memories? If this one gets killed is there a second clone on the ship?

Are there really no cameras in the cellblock where Worf and Ezri are being held? Even though Worf has a history of escaping from Dominion prisons?

I assumed that the orb box that Dukat brought to Wynn was a fake. The prophets have never spoken to her anyway, so she shouldn't be surprised that they're still not speaking to her.

Kassidy's lack of faith in the prophets: It's not that she doesn't believe that they exist. They obviously do. She has seen no reason to think that they are a force for good, or a force that will interfere in the banal lives of individual Bajorans. Neither have we. The Bajorans have faith in this stuff because . . . that's their religion. It's not hers. Nor is it really Sisko's. He believes they have a plan for him and he has come to accept his role as a religious figurehead, but that doesn't mean that he thinks that the prophets will actually make an individual Bajoran fertile. As to why he thinks their plan for him is good, he's similar to Kai Wynne He believes it because they keep talking to him and interfering with his life. That would make anyone feel special, right?
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Quarkissnyder
Tue, Aug 22, 2017, 4:12pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

@Peter G: Well, I was married, to someone who thought it was good to make decisions for both of us that affected both of us, because bringing information to my attention might . . . all the paternalistic things you just said. I'm not going to rant any more. I'm just going to leave it that whatever Sisko's rationale, whether well-intentioned or not, leaving her out of the loop is no way for a true partner to act. Any more than buying retirement property on Bajor without consulting her is the action of someone who understands what it means to share a life. (To be fair, Cassidy also moved to DS9 without discussing it with Sisko, which was also reprehensible.)
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Quarkissnyder
Tue, Aug 15, 2017, 9:20am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

@Peter G: Actually a person doesn't get to decide by themselves whether or not they will get married. The two people who will be married decide together.

Sure, it's unlikely that the vision would change Cassidy's mind. But it's not up to Sisko to determine that; it's up to Cassidy.
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Quarkissnyder
Mon, Jul 31, 2017, 1:29pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

Benjamin, Benjamin, Benjamin . . . go to your fiancee. Tell her about the vision. Have a discussion with her. Decide together what you will do. Your complete inability to be a true partner in a relationship is probably what your mother was talking about when she said your marriage will bring only sorrow.
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Quarkissnyder
Wed, Jul 26, 2017, 10:45pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Penumbra

No! Don't marry him! If he really wanted to marry you he would have asked you BEFORE he bought the house. He would have 1. Proposed 2. If you said yes, said, "I'd like to buy some retirement property on Bajor. What do you think of that?" 3. Had a discussion about whether you both want to live on Bajor, and, if so, where, and once that's figured out, what if anything you want to grow on that property.

Also, if your reaction to a proposal is an incredibly surprised "Really? You're sure about this?" don't marry him.

Also, Kassidy, this is not you. You are not a soft lit feminine supporting character. You are a tough freighter captain. As a man once said, Don't go on changing just to try to please him.

The prophet is right -- that marriage can bring only pain.

Sisko's desire to live on Bajor continues to be stupid. It would be like John Lennon at the height of Beatlemania buying a sweet single family house in some midwestern suburb. Yeah, it's nice for the first couple of days but not so great when people find out you live there and are constantly walking into your house because you're a celebrity and the public owns your xxx.

Worf is going to eat a wolf? Will he at least skin it first?

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Quarkissnyder
Sun, Jul 23, 2017, 9:39pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges

This is completely off-topic, but Adrienne Barbeau, who played Cretak in this episode, is completely awesome. When I was a kid and she was starring on Maude I happened to be in an elevator with her in a hotel, and she was sweet to me. About a year ago I saw her in the traveling Broadway show Pippin, playing a 70 year old woman who has a trapeze scene in a circus. I didn't realize who it was at the time and after the show I was like, "they shouldn't have some 30 year old playing a 70 year old woman." But it was Adrienne Barbeau, age 70.
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Quarkissnyder
Sun, Jul 23, 2017, 3:48pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: It's Only a Paper Moon

@Chuck: I've read that the reason darker-skinned actors are often cast as aliens is because it makes the job of the makeup artists easier.
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Quarkissnyder
Fri, Jul 21, 2017, 6:22pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang

I thought that the discussion between Sisko and Yates about race issues in holosuite programs was like a breath of fresh air. Wow -- a DS9 episode actually bringing to the forefront something that I think about in every Vic episode and discard because I'm supposed to be suspending my disbelief.

Roddenberry's vision of racism not being an issue in the future does not mean that earth has become one undifferentiated culture. Sisko can identify with African American culture, and what his ancestors went through, without racism -- the idea that people of different races are biologically different (and some inferior) to each other.

Sisko putting aside his concerns didn't bother me either -- he often shows up to support characters he cares about. I assumed that in this case he decided that giving Cassidy support in something important to her was worth overlooking (but not discarding) his concerns.

I liked his singing at the end too.

Other than that, like others I was frustrated by yet another filler episode.

Is Vic supposed to have consciousness? Since he has memories I assume that he does. In which case wouldn't killing his character or wiping his memory be murder?

Are there thousands of other Vic Fontaines in living rooms all over the federation?

Since his program has been running so much more than expected, the Jack In The Box seems to come pretty late in the game. Also, it's obnoxious. There's a war on. If people want to go to a bar to relax, they probably don't want to unexpectedly find themselves in the middle of a different war.
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Quarkissnyder
Mon, Jul 17, 2017, 4:14pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Chimera

I didn't think this episode offered much that was new. Odo is tortured by his identity crisis. Kira tries to be supportive but can't fully understand and then understands a little better and Odo feels loved. There was an episode in the first season that captured this well, when Belanna Torres' mother was nice to Odo when he needed to go into his liquid state.

Quark's speech did not work for me. I wondered whether it was Laas taking his shape.

Laas' speech about all humanoids becoming farmers who destroy their environment also didn't work for me. On earth alone there have been plenty of human populations that have been hunter gatherers not farmers. Other "lower" species also drive out competition.

Hard to suspend disbelief that all races in the federation are humanoid. I had always assumed that was what we saw because of budget restrictions and the limits of CGI (and maybe the cautionary tale of the Dune movie). But it's unlikely that the only intelligent life the federation has ever encountered are humanoids and the Founders.

It would be awesome if the brought Laas back with others of the hundred, and did something with it.

I don't understand why the Founders sent the foundlings (get it? foundlings. I endlessly amuse myself) out as infants. Seems mean. Why not send adults?
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Quarkissnyder
Wed, Jul 12, 2017, 6:27pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Field of Fire

Another Ezri episode? Sheesh.

You just knew Ilario was going to die from the moment of the overdone first scene. I didn't understand how he had had time to develop his crush on Julian and Myles.

I thought that when Ezri said that she could understand how a murderer thinks, she would say, "Because my brother is one." Would have been more interesting.

I'm okay with Odo reading 20th century earth detective fiction but it needs a backstory. The culture that Odo identifies with is Bajor. If he's going to delve deeply into esoteric earth culture, he needs to give a reason for it.

How did the murderer know where to look for Ezri to shoot at her?
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Quarkissnyder
Mon, Jul 10, 2017, 3:48pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Emperor's New Cloak

I would have liked Rom's musings on the mirror universe if they had lasted for no more than one minute. Then they would have been a funny breaking of the 4th wall instead of just Rom being stupid.

Yup, you knew that Ezri would be evil the second she showed up wearing a lot of eye shadow, because only bad girls wear make up.
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Quarkissnyder
Thu, Jun 15, 2017, 2:14pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Prodigal Daughter

Oh joy, let's blame the mother. Toraya's comment was spot on.

I liked the painting after he put the stick figure in it. I might hang that on my wall.

I assumed from the first scene that there was a history of Janel abusing Ezri. The way he touched her hair as if he had a right to was creepy.

How did Miles know how to read Trill?

The house in the middle of nowhere was weird. I know they can transport out, but how awful to live in a place where you can't just walk out the door. They could have played up the claustrophobic aspect of that a lot more.
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Quarkissnyder
Sat, Jun 10, 2017, 10:31pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: It's Only a Paper Moon

Sisko making Quark pay for the holosuite was just obnoxious.

I didn't see Ezri as being clever in getting Vic to realize he had to kick Nog out. It came across as lucky.

I would have loved to have seen Vic go rogue and refuse to ever let Nog leave. A different episode, true, but lots of fun to be had. And Vic certainly has enough power to get super evil.

As it is, it seems like a punishment to keep Vic alive 26 hours a day with only empty hollowsuite characters to talk to. I assume that none of their programming approaches his. It seems pretty close to solitary confinement.
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Quarkissnyder
Fri, Jun 9, 2017, 12:48pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Siege of AR-558

@Chrome

But they don't act dishonorably.
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Quarkissnyder
Fri, Jun 9, 2017, 9:52am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Covenant

The opening scene was incredibly problematic. Why can't Odo go to services with Kira if he wants to, as a polite observer, even if he's not a believer? If he's unbearably bored he doesn't have to go again.

It is not true that orb experiences come only to believers. Sisko has them all the time. He may be developing into a believer, but if he is it's a result of the orb experiences, not a cause of them.

The conversations between Kira and Dukat have been hashed over so many times in so many previous episodes that I felt like I could have said their dialogue for them. "You just want to be loved." "The occupation would have been so much worse if not for me."

Why was the cloth that the transporter crystal was wrapped in left behind? How would Kira have had time to drop it? (I didn't go back and rewatch that scene, so maybe she did.)
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Quarkissnyder
Mon, Jun 5, 2017, 11:00am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Siege of AR-558

Quark would not disparagingly compare humans fallen on hard times to Klingons. The implication is that if a human is desperate enough they'll kill their own grandmother for a piece of bread. But Quark likes Klingons. He was married to one. Also, Klingons don't act that way. We've never seen Klingons as individually bloodthirsty. Sure, they like a good brawl but they're disciplined soldiers, not murderers.
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Quarkissnyder
Sat, Jun 3, 2017, 3:30pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Once More Unto the Breach

I thought this episode was well done and very moving. It's the only DS9 episode that has ever made me cry.

I disagree with Jammer -- I liked the ending. Kor is dead, and how he died doesn't matter for the show. How Martok reacts to his death is much more important.

Martok sure acted like a jerk, which was out of character for him.
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Quarkissnyder
Wed, May 31, 2017, 2:50pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Treachery, Faith, and the Great River

On the one hand, I always like episodes where Ferengi are treated respectfully as a culture that has a great deal to offer. On the other hand, I agree with Zzybaloobah's comments -- the whole barter plot makes no sense in the context of the federation.

Yes, it worked on MASH because that was talking about a 1950's bureaucracy. But this is the federation in the middle of a war. If a ship has extra equipment and another ship needs it, I find it impossible to believe the first ship wouldn't just hand it over. If a supply sergeant is refusing to cooperate, then you go up the chain of command.
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Quarkissnyder
Mon, Apr 24, 2017, 12:53pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Chrysalis

I can't decide whether this episode was more stupid or more offensive.
Apparently Bashir skipped the ethics classes in med school.

Even if it weren't utterly disgusting for Bashir as her doctor and really her creator to date Sarina, the fact that he couldn't wait to get into her pants (or, weird dress in this case) was just gross. Sure, promise to show the universe to someone who has been able to interact with her surroundings for three days, but then plan to bring her to a sex planet! Great!

I did think of Flowers for Algernon as I watched this episode. But I also thought of TNG's The Perfect Mate, in which a young woman's sole purpose is to please whatever man happens to be nearby. At least this one had a better ending.

Stupid because Sarina's characterization was utterly unrealistic. I could not suspend my disbelief for a second.

Alexander Siddig seemed equally put off by the episode, as he kept stumbling over his lines.
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