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Tue, Aug 15, 2017, 9:20am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

@Peter G: Actually a person doesn't get to decide by themselves whether or not they will get married. The two people who will be married decide together.

Sure, it's unlikely that the vision would change Cassidy's mind. But it's not up to Sisko to determine that; it's up to Cassidy.
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Mon, Jul 31, 2017, 1:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

Benjamin, Benjamin, Benjamin . . . go to your fiancee. Tell her about the vision. Have a discussion with her. Decide together what you will do. Your complete inability to be a true partner in a relationship is probably what your mother was talking about when she said your marriage will bring only sorrow.
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Wed, Jul 26, 2017, 10:45pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Penumbra

No! Don't marry him! If he really wanted to marry you he would have asked you BEFORE he bought the house. He would have 1. Proposed 2. If you said yes, said, "I'd like to buy some retirement property on Bajor. What do you think of that?" 3. Had a discussion about whether you both want to live on Bajor, and, if so, where, and once that's figured out, what if anything you want to grow on that property.

Also, if your reaction to a proposal is an incredibly surprised "Really? You're sure about this?" don't marry him.

Also, Kassidy, this is not you. You are not a soft lit feminine supporting character. You are a tough freighter captain. As a man once said, Don't go on changing just to try to please him.

The prophet is right -- that marriage can bring only pain.

Sisko's desire to live on Bajor continues to be stupid. It would be like John Lennon at the height of Beatlemania buying a sweet single family house in some midwestern suburb. Yeah, it's nice for the first couple of days but not so great when people find out you live there and are constantly walking into your house because you're a celebrity and the public owns your xxx.

Worf is going to eat a wolf? Will he at least skin it first?

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Sun, Jul 23, 2017, 9:39pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges

This is completely off-topic, but Adrienne Barbeau, who played Cretak in this episode, is completely awesome. When I was a kid and she was starring on Maude I happened to be in an elevator with her in a hotel, and she was sweet to me. About a year ago I saw her in the traveling Broadway show Pippin, playing a 70 year old woman who has a trapeze scene in a circus. I didn't realize who it was at the time and after the show I was like, "they shouldn't have some 30 year old playing a 70 year old woman." But it was Adrienne Barbeau, age 70.
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Sun, Jul 23, 2017, 3:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: It's Only a Paper Moon

@Chuck: I've read that the reason darker-skinned actors are often cast as aliens is because it makes the job of the makeup artists easier.
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Fri, Jul 21, 2017, 6:22pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang

I thought that the discussion between Sisko and Yates about race issues in holosuite programs was like a breath of fresh air. Wow -- a DS9 episode actually bringing to the forefront something that I think about in every Vic episode and discard because I'm supposed to be suspending my disbelief.

Roddenberry's vision of racism not being an issue in the future does not mean that earth has become one undifferentiated culture. Sisko can identify with African American culture, and what his ancestors went through, without racism -- the idea that people of different races are biologically different (and some inferior) to each other.

Sisko putting aside his concerns didn't bother me either -- he often shows up to support characters he cares about. I assumed that in this case he decided that giving Cassidy support in something important to her was worth overlooking (but not discarding) his concerns.

I liked his singing at the end too.

Other than that, like others I was frustrated by yet another filler episode.

Is Vic supposed to have consciousness? Since he has memories I assume that he does. In which case wouldn't killing his character or wiping his memory be murder?

Are there thousands of other Vic Fontaines in living rooms all over the federation?

Since his program has been running so much more than expected, the Jack In The Box seems to come pretty late in the game. Also, it's obnoxious. There's a war on. If people want to go to a bar to relax, they probably don't want to unexpectedly find themselves in the middle of a different war.
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Mon, Jul 17, 2017, 4:14pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Chimera

I didn't think this episode offered much that was new. Odo is tortured by his identity crisis. Kira tries to be supportive but can't fully understand and then understands a little better and Odo feels loved. There was an episode in the first season that captured this well, when Belanna Torres' mother was nice to Odo when he needed to go into his liquid state.

Quark's speech did not work for me. I wondered whether it was Laas taking his shape.

Laas' speech about all humanoids becoming farmers who destroy their environment also didn't work for me. On earth alone there have been plenty of human populations that have been hunter gatherers not farmers. Other "lower" species also drive out competition.

Hard to suspend disbelief that all races in the federation are humanoid. I had always assumed that was what we saw because of budget restrictions and the limits of CGI (and maybe the cautionary tale of the Dune movie). But it's unlikely that the only intelligent life the federation has ever encountered are humanoids and the Founders.

It would be awesome if the brought Laas back with others of the hundred, and did something with it.

I don't understand why the Founders sent the foundlings (get it? foundlings. I endlessly amuse myself) out as infants. Seems mean. Why not send adults?
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Wed, Jul 12, 2017, 6:27pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Field of Fire

Another Ezri episode? Sheesh.

You just knew Ilario was going to die from the moment of the overdone first scene. I didn't understand how he had had time to develop his crush on Julian and Myles.

I thought that when Ezri said that she could understand how a murderer thinks, she would say, "Because my brother is one." Would have been more interesting.

I'm okay with Odo reading 20th century earth detective fiction but it needs a backstory. The culture that Odo identifies with is Bajor. If he's going to delve deeply into esoteric earth culture, he needs to give a reason for it.

How did the murderer know where to look for Ezri to shoot at her?
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Mon, Jul 10, 2017, 3:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: The Emperor's New Cloak

I would have liked Rom's musings on the mirror universe if they had lasted for no more than one minute. Then they would have been a funny breaking of the 4th wall instead of just Rom being stupid.

Yup, you knew that Ezri would be evil the second she showed up wearing a lot of eye shadow, because only bad girls wear make up.
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Thu, Jun 15, 2017, 2:14pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Prodigal Daughter

Oh joy, let's blame the mother. Toraya's comment was spot on.

I liked the painting after he put the stick figure in it. I might hang that on my wall.

I assumed from the first scene that there was a history of Janel abusing Ezri. The way he touched her hair as if he had a right to was creepy.

How did Miles know how to read Trill?

The house in the middle of nowhere was weird. I know they can transport out, but how awful to live in a place where you can't just walk out the door. They could have played up the claustrophobic aspect of that a lot more.
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Sat, Jun 10, 2017, 10:31pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: It's Only a Paper Moon

Sisko making Quark pay for the holosuite was just obnoxious.

I didn't see Ezri as being clever in getting Vic to realize he had to kick Nog out. It came across as lucky.

I would have loved to have seen Vic go rogue and refuse to ever let Nog leave. A different episode, true, but lots of fun to be had. And Vic certainly has enough power to get super evil.

As it is, it seems like a punishment to keep Vic alive 26 hours a day with only empty hollowsuite characters to talk to. I assume that none of their programming approaches his. It seems pretty close to solitary confinement.
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Fri, Jun 9, 2017, 12:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: The Siege of AR-558


But they don't act dishonorably.
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Fri, Jun 9, 2017, 9:52am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Covenant

The opening scene was incredibly problematic. Why can't Odo go to services with Kira if he wants to, as a polite observer, even if he's not a believer? If he's unbearably bored he doesn't have to go again.

It is not true that orb experiences come only to believers. Sisko has them all the time. He may be developing into a believer, but if he is it's a result of the orb experiences, not a cause of them.

The conversations between Kira and Dukat have been hashed over so many times in so many previous episodes that I felt like I could have said their dialogue for them. "You just want to be loved." "The occupation would have been so much worse if not for me."

Why was the cloth that the transporter crystal was wrapped in left behind? How would Kira have had time to drop it? (I didn't go back and rewatch that scene, so maybe she did.)
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Mon, Jun 5, 2017, 11:00am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: The Siege of AR-558

Quark would not disparagingly compare humans fallen on hard times to Klingons. The implication is that if a human is desperate enough they'll kill their own grandmother for a piece of bread. But Quark likes Klingons. He was married to one. Also, Klingons don't act that way. We've never seen Klingons as individually bloodthirsty. Sure, they like a good brawl but they're disciplined soldiers, not murderers.
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Sat, Jun 3, 2017, 3:30pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Once More Unto the Breach

I thought this episode was well done and very moving. It's the only DS9 episode that has ever made me cry.

I disagree with Jammer -- I liked the ending. Kor is dead, and how he died doesn't matter for the show. How Martok reacts to his death is much more important.

Martok sure acted like a jerk, which was out of character for him.
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Wed, May 31, 2017, 2:50pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Treachery, Faith, and the Great River

On the one hand, I always like episodes where Ferengi are treated respectfully as a culture that has a great deal to offer. On the other hand, I agree with Zzybaloobah's comments -- the whole barter plot makes no sense in the context of the federation.

Yes, it worked on MASH because that was talking about a 1950's bureaucracy. But this is the federation in the middle of a war. If a ship has extra equipment and another ship needs it, I find it impossible to believe the first ship wouldn't just hand it over. If a supply sergeant is refusing to cooperate, then you go up the chain of command.
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Mon, Apr 24, 2017, 12:53pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Chrysalis

I can't decide whether this episode was more stupid or more offensive.
Apparently Bashir skipped the ethics classes in med school.

Even if it weren't utterly disgusting for Bashir as her doctor and really her creator to date Sarina, the fact that he couldn't wait to get into her pants (or, weird dress in this case) was just gross. Sure, promise to show the universe to someone who has been able to interact with her surroundings for three days, but then plan to bring her to a sex planet! Great!

I did think of Flowers for Algernon as I watched this episode. But I also thought of TNG's The Perfect Mate, in which a young woman's sole purpose is to please whatever man happens to be nearby. At least this one had a better ending.

Stupid because Sarina's characterization was utterly unrealistic. I could not suspend my disbelief for a second.

Alexander Siddig seemed equally put off by the episode, as he kept stumbling over his lines.
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Wed, Apr 19, 2017, 4:06pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Take Me Out to the Holosuite

I loathed this episode.

I kept on thinking, "There's still time to do something interesting." I was hoping for a Dominion attack of DS9 in the middle of the game, requiring both teams to pull together.

It's not that I don't think they could have done something with this plot, in a different writer's hands. But as soon as Nog was at the first meeting of the "senior staff" I had a sinking feeling that went lower and lower as the episode wore on.
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Sun, Apr 16, 2017, 6:08pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Afterimage

Ezri's statement to Bashir that Jadzia would have gotten together with him if Worf hadn't come along was ridiculous. There was never any indication that Jadzia thought of Bashir as anything other than a cute puppy. It supports the offensive idea from previous episodes that Bashir had the right to consider Jadzia the one who got away, or the one he lost. She never was interested, and the retcon is just male privilege rearing its ugly head.

Rant over.
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Wed, Apr 12, 2017, 2:59pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Shadows and Symbols

I liked this episode. Quark especially -- I am so happy when this show lets his character be what it should be instead of a bumbling scared moron. To the commenters upstream complaining that he should not have been on that mission -- Quark often does surprising things. He has alwasy been an imperfect Ferengi, because as much as he tries to fight it and hide it he cares about things other than profit.

Weyoun was in excellent form as well.

I remember being annoyed by Ezri the first time I watched this series, but on reviewing I found her to be adorable and funny in this episode.

In the desert they should zip their Bedouin suits, which would do a good job of keeping them cooler if they were worn properly.

Interesting that several years later Buffy the Vampire Slayer did almost exactly the same mental hospital patient writing his/her own story plot.

The pah wraith/wormhole stuff was the weakest part of the episode. How did it jump across a galaxy to the wormhole?

Admiral Ross should take negotiation lessons from Quark. Really, all he's gonna do is sit there?

Except for Quark and his interaction with the Klingons, very little to say about Worf's story. Obviously they were going to be successful; they wouldn't kill off that many main characters at once.
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Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 12:25pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Image in the Sand

Why can Sisko just leave Star Fleet in the middle of the war? Why can he come back whenever he wants to?

Has he never seen his birth certificate?

For a man who had been so deeply in love and so very heartbroken, Sisko's father must have gotten over it pretty quickly to have found someone else to marry soon enough that Sisko would not remember a time without her.

I don't understand Kira's chain of command. Why would she report to Star Fleet, or take orders from it? Now that she's in charge of the station, does that mean that the station has been returned to Bajoran control?

Why would Jadzia's favorite song be lounge music from the 1950's? She's a trill. The alien culture she identifies with is Klingon.
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Fri, Mar 31, 2017, 1:40pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Tears of the Prophets

Is this how the military works? One person is appointed to plan an attack? Wouldn't all knowledgeable people be asked to work together to make a plan that needs to be approved by the brass? Perhaps with different proposals being considered?

Similarly, just because Sisko's ship's engineer discovered the flaw in the defense system, why would his ship be the one to destroy the moon? Is it the most manueverable? As the guy with all the strategy, shouldn't he maybe be hanging back a bit?

I continued to be grossed out by Julian's pining over Jadzia (pre-death). When the holosuite guy said "You lost her a long time ago," that's wrong. He never had her because she never had any interest in him. His feelings towards her now seem a bit stalkerish and creepily entitled. Yuck.

In addition to previous comments about the prophets having literally saved the federation less than a year ago, they also know the future. The admiral is an idiot for ignoring their warning.

When Sisko was scrubbing the potatoes he was scrubbing the dirt onto the potatoes below him. Was that supposed to be a symptom of his depression, or just stupid?

This is the second episode where Julian has worn a tomato costume with no explanation.
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Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 2:22pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: The Sound of Her Voice

I understand that Odo is not bound by any rule of law that requires a search warrant or respect for a reasonable expectation of privacy, but sometimes his spying is just creepy. What's to stop him from being a peeping tom?

The relationship between Quark and Odo makes little sense given everything they have now been through together. Why does the series consistently overlook that Quark is a hero from when the dominion was occupying DS9? Odo does not want Quark to go to jail, and it's weird that Quark thinks that he does.

In all these years Quark has never managed to smuggle anything onto DS9 on Odo's watch. I had kind of assumed that he was actually getting away with a lot, or he would have stopped trying, but this episode confirms that this was the first time he has ever succeeded. Which begs the question -- why does he keep trying? Why not put his efforts into opening a satellite bar on Bajor or something? It seems like that would be a lot more profitable.

As for the A plot: It fell flat because no one addressed anything real. I assumed that Sisko was planning on dumping the rarely seen girlfriend, but no, he just doesn't want her on the bridge.

O'Brien doesn't feel as close to his friends as he did because of the war, but we've never seen that. To the contrary, we have seen him speaking to Julian about very personal things, such as after his undercover operation.

Julian's speech at the end had little to do with his conversations with the woman.

I also didn't buy Lisa as a character. For one thing, she's just lost her entire crew but seems not too upset about it.

Wouldn't the characters be aware that everything they are saying to Lisa is being recorded, and self-censor quite a bit more than they did?
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Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 10:41am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Time's Orphan

I liked that the O'Briens had the cat. That was a bit of continuity that we rarely see.

The B plot was cute. I thought Michael Dorn's acting was excellent in it.

Those are the only good things I can say about this episode.
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Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 11:35am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Profit and Lace

Why was Julian dressed as a tomato? Why has no one commented on that?

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