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Mertov
Sat, Nov 18, 2017, 12:35am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Into the Forest I Go

I know. My comment wasn't directed at you P.U. although now that I look again, I understand why you thought that.
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Mertov
Fri, Nov 17, 2017, 8:11pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Into the Forest I Go

Oh please..

It's not like he has never piled on people who liked Discovery either.. Discovery pandering "the lowest common denominator"?? Guess who first said that.

Also, the confrontational tone, the four-letter words spread all over the messages, the constant arguing back and forth with others..

And then accusing Jammer of thinking his "little community is the center of the universe"..

Saying things like "You *know*, that I've done my homework. You know very well that my posts are relevant and are based on actual facts."

Get over yourself..

And then the all gracious "Notice I am not responding to anyone here" and "I am trying to leave in a civilized manner" in a post peppered with four-letter words and accusations..

It's not like the only problem here was his constant bashing of the show without having seen it.. You can still do that in an acceptable way (see Hugh's post above).

If someone's posts constantly have a confrontational tone and bash a show without having seen it, at first, one or two might nicely explain to that person why it's not a good idea (Jammer tried). But if you continue that behavior and the argumentative tone, and then get all upset and say dramatic goodbyes claiming it's your last post (we saw how long that lasted) because of the mention of the word melodrama, then yeah, you are dishing out what you can't seem to take.

Moving on...
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Mertov
Fri, Nov 17, 2017, 2:02pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Into the Forest I Go

Ok... Buh-bye now...

For real this time..... hopefully !
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Mertov
Tue, Nov 14, 2017, 12:28am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Into the Forest I Go

Great episode, I am not sure if I would call it the best. I thought the first three episodes as a trio set the season up very well but I know that can't be called an episode. I also liked "Magic to Make the Sanest.." a lot.

In any case, this episode rocked with its balanced pace and good directing. It helps that two long-time Star Trek lovers wrote the episode, I liked Chris Byrne's directing of the space scenes as well as his take on the camera angles in the Klingon ship. I second whoever said it earlier. Get Byrne to direct more episodes!

I am curious to see what Jammer says, because he usually (and rightfully so) rates second parts lower than first parts, but assuming last week's episode was a set up for this, he may go with a rare higher rating for a second part of a two-parter. This second hour was a lot better layered than "Si Vis Pacem..."

I thought the first 15 minutes really kept my attention, overall dialogues were very well written. Especially the ones between Lorca and Stamets resonated. Jason Isaacs is an excellent actor, and Lorca is a fascinating captain. He is convincing and he obviously has gotten his crew to rally behind him one at a time. It's clear that the crew on the bridge respects him, you could tell they agreed with him on every decision he made. Apparently he trusts them too, because he announced his intentions to not follow through with the Vulcan Admiral's order to the crew without hesitation.
Isaacs is great as Lorca. He adds a certain depth to the character, and manifests many different sides. I would call Rapp a close second in terms of complex characters. Burnham and Saru next two.

All actors Martin-Green, Latif, Jones, Cruz, Wiseman , Brook actually shined in this episode with what they were given.

I enjoyed the fact that the spore drive was a central part of the solution to overcome the Klingon cloaking problem.
Visuals were stunning as usual, that has been the one constant plus throughout the season.

The story moved forward at the right pace and with a clear narrative which was a relief after last week's story B mess with L'Rell and the Admiral in the Klingon ship (not the planet and Saru story line, that one was fine).

Interesting ideas in this episode.

Overall thoughts of the first half of the season:

- I agree with one of the posters (sorry, can't remember who) that Dr. Culber's character development has been largely ignored, we know him as the Doctor and boyfriend of Stamets, and nothing more. 9 episodes in, we should have 'grown closer to him' (or vice versa) so to speak. He is the chief doctor in the ship (at least I think he is), yet hardly anytime has been devoted to him.

- I would say the same with the three or four characters that we see a lot on the bridge and yet there has been virtually no development around them. Wasn't Detmer even in the Shenzhou? I am not saying an episode should be built around one or two of them, but some involvement above and beyond nodding to Captain's or Saru's orders, or responding with one-sentence standard affirmations, would be nice.

- I don't know how or when the word got out that Ash may be Voq, but in any case, the fact that it got out really ruins things. Either they should have kept it a national secret, or forget about it. It's annoying to know what the reveal is when the reveal actually takes place. I am not attacking the idea here, but rather the fact that it got known before hand.I would actually give the producers more praise if that were really their plan, but knowing that the word is out, they'd come up with a new direction for that story line at the last second and somehow pull it off.

- There were only two, what I would consider, so-called "stand-alone" episodes.
I really liked one of them I really liked, the other was average. In any case, I would like to see a better balance of the two, even if it's not 50-50. Out of 15 episodes a season even 6-9 would be fine.

- I am not particularly a fan of mirror-universe episodes. I felt most of them were duds. Having said that, I don't fear that Discovery will go on some extended mirror-universe exploration. I am looking at one episode, maximum two spent there.
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Mertov
Sat, Nov 11, 2017, 11:11pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

People, come on.. He already said more than once (last one 4 posts ago) that he is not saying that they should not be on the show.
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Mertov
Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 12:10am (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S1: Cupid's Dagger

Rehash of a bunch of TNG/DS9/VOY plots bundled up together, re-marinated, and re-served, via a bland ship with a bland bridge (who picked the depressive colors of the interiors?)

That being said, I laughed hard on this one in many scenes. And that is what I look for when I watch The Orville, a light-weight but humorous version of pseudo-Trek, so for me, it succeeded. Certainly better than the last two dud episodes.
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Mertov
Thu, Nov 9, 2017, 7:01am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

"I'm not going to hijack this board, but the "I'm tired of commenting, so let me argue my case, but please don't make any counter-arguments" shtick is annoying. If you want to close the argument, do so, but don't use it as an excuse to have the last word and stop the other fellow from replying."

Uhm.. Where in my post did I say "don't make any counter-arguments"? I am sorry that you are annoyed by something that didn't exist in my post.

By all means, have at it, I was talking for myself..
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Mertov
Thu, Nov 9, 2017, 6:17am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

@Yair

I don't like to get in long-winded arguments on details, Skupper already said what needs to be said, it's quite evident that she is hated by everyone. The prisoners in her transport ship knew of her fame, she walks into Discovery and everyone knows of her fame, she is blamed (rightly or wrongly) for causing a war that is causing havoc in the world ("more than the world"). I am sorry but she is definitely widely known. The show makes that pretty clear.

And that was only to show that I disagree with your argument that Burnham was facing was hardly "reflective of the challenges former prisoners go through." She has a lot bigger challenges due to her fame, even if it were limited to Discovery (which, again, I strongly disagree, but I won't get into a back and forth on this detail and hijack the comments board, this is not a judge-jury environment). Only a small portion of former prisoners have to go into an environment where everyone they see and meet knows of them (at least in name).

As to 6 months being real amount of time or not, again it's subjective, because what counts is not what "is considered in any real world prison system" or our opinion but the point of view of the former convict. He/She has to face reality when he/she comes out, regardless of what stats say in a study done by unrelated people. And Burnham is far worse off in that context than most ex-convicts, for reasons I have already mentioned.

And sorry but to claim that Discovery is more sociable under her circumstances than Shenzhou, a ship in which she has served for years, and is the number one, is just not correct, just watching the show should make that clear. That is definitely not her situation when she arrives to the Discovery in prison suits with everyone side-eyeing her and being a complete jerk to her. I hardly doubt the security chief in the Shenzhou and the engineer were any less sociable to her than the ones on Shenzhou were. Her self-imposed social-isolation does not mean she has zero interaction with anyone, and when she does, she faced them as number one, not as a famous convict who made her entrance to the Shenzhou in convict's clothes.
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Mertov
Wed, Nov 8, 2017, 5:49pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

"Burnham was never "deintegrated" for any real length of time. After a very temporary stay on the prison ship she ends up doing the same job on a different ship, where the crew is if anything more sociable."

Really? More sociable than that of the Shenzhou? I am thinking of "Context for Kings" and how I fail to see how Discovery is more sociable, especially from Burnham's point of view. She arrives on the ship and is regared with disdain, fear, and everyone pretty much side-eyes her and it's clear she is made to feel like an outcast. WHereas in the Shenzhou she was respected by her peers, captain, and was in the number one position. I would hardly call that the same job and the crew more sociable from Burnham's point of view. And calling "6 months" any "real amount of time" or not, is completely subjective.

"This is hardly reflective of the challenges former prisoners go through, like gaining legal employing or adjusting to a society which changed drastically while in prison."

According to whose definition of "challenges former prisoners go through"? Some may say Burnham's challenges are far worse than that of most prisoners because she comes out of prison with enough fame that a vast portion of the population hates her and is immediately aware of what she did as soon as they hear the name, which cannot be said of most prisoners.
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Mertov
Mon, Nov 6, 2017, 1:56pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

" [...] Therefore, Saru's actions don't quite compute. The logical course of action for him would [...]"

I am not sure this is fair. The epsisde made it abundantly clear that Saru's logic was compromised at that time for reasons that several commenters already mentioned. If fear was the dominant emotion in my mind (I can't even begin to fathom how miserable that would be), and I discovered for the first time a life without it, my reasoning/logic would be out the window too, especially during the first 24 hours of that never-before-felt level of comfort.
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Mertov
Mon, Nov 6, 2017, 12:49pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

Agreed with Shannon's comment above in its entirety. Peter G. also talks more in detail about what Shannon touches on in her last couple of sentences. That whole sequence from when L'Rell leaves the interrogation room with the Admiral until the last scene in the Klingon ship is very clunky. Hopefully, that will get cleaned up next week. Hard to judge Part 1 without Part 2.

I must say Saru running like a gazelle through the planet's foliage was a thrill to watch.

Anxious to read Jammer's review.
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Mertov
Sat, Nov 4, 2017, 1:17pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S1: Into the Fold

"Isaac was great. I disagree that it was a mistake to have his face covered. Good actors can carry the weight of their character even when they can't use facial expressions. So much can be conveyed with head tilts and hand gestures and vocal leanings, and a good actor can still humanize even a robotic character with just these traits."

Benjamin, that argument is a two-way street. It can also help a bad actor since he can just use gestures and head tilts and what he can't with facial features because of a lack of talent.

I am not saying he should have full facial features but definitely more than the flatness with the bulbs, an ensemble that is constant. To reiterate, Brent Spiner was an excellent actor. Now imagine if he had Isaac's face in TNG. He, as an actor, and we, as viewers, would have both been shortchanged.
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Mertov
Fri, Nov 3, 2017, 4:42pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S1: Into the Fold

This episode fell flat for me. Too much of "seen-before."

Penny Johnson's performance (the only strong aspect of this episode in my opinion) can only carry a bland narrative for so long. The kids' acting was exagerated. Some of the dialogues sounded like rehashes of the same-old robot-human dialogues from every Trek other show.

I also believe the idea of having Isaac don a flat tin face with only two round dark-colored glass balls for eyes is a bad decision by the show producers, it certainly shortchanges the actor. Robot or not, in an episode focusing on a character, he/she would be better served if the viewer didn't have to solely rely on the verbal because of non-existant facial features that give zero assistance to character development.
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Mertov
Thu, Nov 2, 2017, 4:35pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad

Ugh.. around three typos in my last post.
There is a "he" that should be a "she" toward the end (the new fan who decided to watch the rest of the series). The "s" is missing.
And I mistyped "procees: instead of "proceed".
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Mertov
Thu, Nov 2, 2017, 4:21pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad

--- Peter G:

"Friends, why are we fighting about this? Let Omicron have his opinion, it doesn't hurt anyone."

I disagree. Vocabulary used matters and can be hurtful.

I mean it in a general sense, not necessarily pointing to Omicron.

When individuals use a confrontational tone (may or may not include x-rated language too), and put posts that designate people to whom Discovery appeals as the "lowest common denominator," or portray them as "dumbed down," or imply that only "sensible people" can see how bad DSC is, or comment on a show they haven't seen and when questioned about that practice, respond that they are being "silly" for questioning it, then, the problem is not necessarily those who react to such posts. I don't know (or remember, nor do I care to go back and search to find out who did, because that is besides the point) if Omicron did all those things - I believe the last one, yes - because I am commenting on a particular line of thought rather than individuals, but people who are consequently reacting to those types of antagonistic posts are not the ones causing the "fighting."

You say "I like a good debate but flaming people for having a poor basis for their position isn't really helpful." Can I assume that you feel the same about people (whoever they are) who engage in what I said above?

If the criticism is about the show itself, and does not use a one that comes across as they are at some elite level that others don't understand, that is fine. But if the post has insults or cut-downs on those who enjoy the show, and is written in an antagonistic tone (they are easy to recognize), then it has no business being here. Jammer's comments section is one of the few places where the idea exchanges don't disintegrate to a disastrous level, and it would be nice if it stayed that way, although I can't be sure of that, lately.

I usually stick to the episode itself, and that is why I love reading Jammer's reviews, and there are some posters who also do that, whom I enjoy reading. So, this will probably be one of my rare posts where I veered into discussion outside the episode. I am hoping it will be my last.

Mister Wooster:

That is a great post. The formula can only last for so long, and a show needs to also recruit new fans to remain alive and thrive. There was definitely the franchise fatigue (that Chrome mentions in his response to you also). It's fine to change direction and tweak the formula. I actually follow on the internet a group of Trekkies from around the world and a few of them added their friends who have never watched Star Trek before just to see what they would say about DSC. We asked them to watch each episode and comment (I swear, none out of the 5 knew what a Romulan was for example). 5 out of 5 are now fans of it, and 1 already asked us how to procees if he wanted to watch overtime the rest of the series/movies and catch up with the rest of us. Needless to say, we told her it would take a long time but to go for it :))

I can't say the same for how the 20 or so old-timer Trekkies feel about DSC though (although most of us like it enough to keep watching).
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Mertov
Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 3:11pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad

"I know several TV shows and films who have repeated time-loop sequences....."
should read:

".... several TV shows and films THAT have repeated...."

Ugh... I desperately need to get in the habit of proofreading (I may have a couple of other typos and/or errors, sorry. I will read twice or more before posting next time)
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Mertov
Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 3:04pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad

Nice episode, I enjoyed it from the beginning to the end. I actually enjoyed some of the dialogues between crew members in the first 10 minutes, including the sarcasm of some, and even the way Lorca glanced at Saru to make him shut up :))

Like Yanks and Chrome have pointed out, I enjoyed the nuances and additions shown in each time-loop sequence. To me, it was never an issue while watching that Burnham may have seemed to be aware of events to come, because I considered only logical that in the second, third, fourth and following time-loop sequences, we would not get to re-see every event like we did in the first one (thankfully, because the episode would take forever otherwise) and move forward quicker. Thus, I am sure Stamets caught up with Burnham immediately (as we saw in a couple of time-loop sequences), and told her what was to happen. I know several TV shows and films who have repeated time-loop sequences don't show everything that they showed in the previous sequence to avoid redundancy. There was a show years ago, Daybreak I think, in which they went through one time-loop sequence in seconds (first one was whole episode), because we knew through deduction what took place in between the accelerated sequences. In this episode, to me, it was obvious that when Burnham was moving with a purpose in a new time-loop sequence, it was obviously because Stamets had already alerted her and she had the info necessary to proceed. I would further say that, in my opinion, the use of slightly "altered sequences as it progressed" (borrowing from Chrome) made this episode better than "Cause and Effect".

I also didn't have a problem with the ending that some seemed to have. To let Mudd go was acceptable, assuming that he did not get to cause any damage to the ship or anyone in Discovery in the last time loop (I'd need to watch it again to be sure). The science worked for me too, unlike "Cause and Effect" (Data struck by an epiphany when looking at Riker's pips?! Uh, ok...).

This episode was also helped by a great performance by Rainn Wilson as Mudd. I like this Mudd better than the one in TOS (though that one was fine too). Especially the sequence of him killing Lorca over and over again, you can tell he really gets off on it, kudos to Wilson for bringing the character alive.

The only major issue I had was how Burnham killed herself, banking on the fact that Mudd is greedy and would restart the time-loop with the knowledge that she was also valuable. That was way too risky, and yet the scene does not properly convey the importance of such decision. A second, but minor, issue was the dance scene between Stamets and Burnham. I think the purpose of the scene had no need for the dancing to be included, but that's just my personal taste.

I am loving Rapp as Stamets, Isaacs as Lorca, and Jones as Saru. Burnham is fine too, and I actually see no difference between the captain's-log-entry monologues in the other series and Burnham's monologues. I enjoyed the former and I now enjoy the latter. The interactions between Tyler and Burnham were very well done and acted. They added another layer to the episode.

I read a few criticism above about Stamets' decision to choose Burnham over Lorca in sharing his knowledge. I thought that was only logical, in fact, the way the relationship between Stamets and Lorca has been portrayed up to this point, I would think that the Captain would be the last person whom Stamets would choose to help him solve the problem. He obviously does not like the guy, plus Burnham has obviously gained his respect as a scientist more than anyone else. If anything at all, I would have considered it bad writing if Stamets did go to the Captain simply because he "is the captain" and not Burnham. That would have ignored the character developments of Lorca and Burnham and their interactions with Stamets.

I agree with Jeanne above, the title is terrible. I wonder how long they spent on coming up with it.

One final note, I really liked the far-out-party scene aboard Discovery. I will take something different anytime, over a rehashing of holosuite celebrations and 10-forward celebratory gatherings. Not that I did not like them either, but on a new show, I would like to see the crew unwind in a different type of party/celebration environment than the usual.

Anxious to see what Jammer has to say.
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Mertov
Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 1:40pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S1: Majority Rule

Jammer.... Thank you !!!
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Mertov
Sat, Oct 28, 2017, 12:22am (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S1: Majority Rule

If they were made without the knowledge of each other, it is an incredible coincidence that the Black Mirror and this episode were made at the same time, because it is literally the same subject matter and I would even say some scenes had identical dialogues or behaviors by the actors.

My least favorite episode so far, probably because I alrwady saw that Black Mirror episode and nothing felt original for me. I also find LaMarr's humor and acting a bit sub-par to be honest, he lacked drama when needed and humor when needed, so it didn't click for me.
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Mertov
Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 4:01pm (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S7: Renaissance Man

On-the-spot review by Jammer, again.

Lt. Ayala did say a sentence in an episode (can't remember which) the preceding year, as a security officer, "Stop where you are!", before getting zapped :)) He must have gotten promoted finally.

The bouncing-off-the-wall move by Torres-Doctor was badly synchronized as you can notice, if you look closely, Tuvok kneeling down and looking at the ceiling before Torres-Doctor actually passes above him.
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Mertov
Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 3:42pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Lethe

"Lowest common denominator" for those who like Discovery?

Wow.. Now we are getting into the use of denigrating Star Trek fans who may or may not like a particular series?

As I said before, all Star Trek series including Discovery have appealed to me so far. So, please grace me with a categorization too, and feel free to make it as insulting, if not more, as "lowest common denominator."

"Elite lowest common denominator"?
"Old-timer with the lowest common denominator disease"?
"Trekkie with an eroding IQ to join the lowest common denominators"?
"Crewman 3rd-class L.C.D. with no hope of promotion"

Have at it..

Unreal...
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Mertov
Mon, Oct 23, 2017, 4:39pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Lethe

I agree with Chrome above. Especially with this:

"It might just be a matter of figuring out whether you're watching a Trek series you like, or if you're better off just waiting for a different variation."

At this point, it's impossible to please all Trekkies. I must be in the minority because I like all Trek. Even when Enterprise - the series that I liked the least - got canceled, I was disappointed because I was still watching it weekly. I was not pleased with it, but not enough to the point o passing on it. I still watch it again from time to time (like I do others too).

I was also happy when Abrams rebooted the franchise with the movies. It brought back a dead franchise. I liked all three so far.

Needless to say, I was happy when DSC was announced. I also happen to like this version. I would like all the series to have their own identity and DSC definitely has its own.

It may just be that some fans only like certain series or certain formulas, and they will have to pass on this, I guess, and wait for the next formula, assuming there will be one. I certainly would not watch a show that I don't like or consider bad enough to the point where it's painful to watch (which is the impression I get from some commenters). DSC is not that case for me. I enjoyed it so far, with its stregths or shortcomings.

The only time I had that impression was when I went to see ST5 the movie when it came out. And I never made an effort to see it again, except in bits and pieces, dozen years later when I was shuffling through TV channels and came across it by luck.
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Mertov
Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 10:24pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: Lethe

The first 15 minutes really pushes the imagination (or limits of belief) hard, but the last 25-30 minutes wraps everything up nicely, including some character/background developments for Burnham, Sarek, and Lorca.

I didn't read Lorca's order to Saru to consult with Starfleet command on rescuing the Admiral as a sell-out, or an attempt to remain Captain longer. Maybe I am naive. I thought the scolding he got from Admiral straightened him up a bit and he felt like he should follow protocol for once. That was my reading. We'll see.

Also unlike for other commenters, Lorca and Cornwell scenes worked for me. They are obviously close and that would explain why she is tolerant with him. It helped give more insight to Lorca's state of mind.

I'll check out for now and eagerly wait for Jammer's review.
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Mertov
Fri, Oct 20, 2017, 11:45pm (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S7: Flesh and Blood

Oh dear... I am glad (for them) that Jammer and others liked this two-parter but I have many problems with it..

What was the purpose of the conversation in the beginning with the Doctor and Chakotay about the medical conference? It was not followed up, it was just, just... there!

And Janeway orders the remaining aive Hirogens to be transported to sick bay? I mean, how big is sick bay? Later, we see a dozen or more in the mess hall, how did they all fit in the sick bay at first?

Also, a hirogen can simply disable the com system of Voyager from a cupboard in the mess hall? Seriously? How did that hirogen know which cupboard to locate to do that to begin with?

And the Doctor helps holograms who killed 43 hirogens so they can make things difficult for Voyager, against the orders of Janeway?

He gets a promise that Voyager would not be attacked. Then, of course, they betray the Doctor by abducting Torres. I could see that coming from miles away, but not the Doctor? And then, the abducted Torres also develops sympathy and gets played too, before realizing that it was the wrong idea? What is with this abductor-abductee romance?

Holograms with spiritual beliefs, praying... Bleeding and feeling pain by simple programming.. Too convenient and too easily explained by a few technobabble lines.

It's just, too much !!

And finally, this is the second time in less than a year that the Doctor decides to leave Voyager for good and make a new life. It's getting a bit unrealistic. It cokes across as if he has no allegiance to Voyager.

I rarely disagree with Jammer's ratings but this is a two-star outing for me, at best.

Side note: Kejal says to Torres that she doesn't appear "vicious and blood thirsty" like Klingons. Torres says that's a stereotype and not true of all Klingons. According to that, Klingons sure have evolved from the times of ST: Discovery (!)
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Fri, Oct 20, 2017, 9:27pm (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S7: Nightingale

Nothing made sense in this episode. Harry's decision to disregard the prime directive, Janeway's support of Harry taking command after having broken the prike directive (oh wait.. that's not so unusual since Janewy played with the prime directive like a 5-year-old toddler plays with dominos), even Seven's encouragement of Harry to get back to captining the Nightingale. Please....

And the B story? We didn't even get to see a testosterone-filled car race between Tom and Icheb.

Really weak episode. The shots of Voyager on the surface were the highlights of it, if anything at all. And Jammer's following comment in his review:

"The show wants us to accept Harry as a starship captain. That's sort of like asking us to accept Tuvok as a stand-up comedian."

Hahahaha, that's great Jammer..
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