Comments on Jammer's Reviews RSS feed for comments posted on Jammer's Reviews en-us Sat, 28 Feb 2015 00:03:32 PST Comment by Vii on DS9 S4: Return to Grace Just finished watching most of the seventh season, and coming back from Legate Damar, who became the symbol of resistance and freedom for Cardassia to a lowly 'Course laid in sir' helmsman, is oddly satisfying. Also the foreknowledge that he's going to kill Ziyal in comparison to "I'll go and help her.. Klingon technology is odd," and Ziyal's "Damar showed me a new knife trick" is very poignant. Honestly, though, imagining him and Ziyal practising the knife wrestle till he thought she had 'mastered' it - the idea of the two of them continuously rolling around the Klingon engineering room is a bit weird but also funny. Makes you wonder what could have been.. Comments Sat, 28 Feb 2015 00:03:32 PST Vii Comment by HolographicAndrew on TNG S7: Firstborn This is a pretty cool episode overall, not a bad way to wrap up the character, at least on the TNG side of him. I thought it was a pretty touching story. @Rosario "I won't say much about the time travel since I've said more than enough on it elsewhere. Star Trek has just never accepted the central truth that the very act of arriving in the past from the future contaminates the timeline. Star Trek thinks you must actively interfere in order to contaminate. Incorrect." You sound pretty certain about the mechanics of something that is entirely fictional. Might as well be debating the central truth of the speed of Superman. Comments Fri, 27 Feb 2015 23:43:28 PST HolographicAndrew Comment by Tom on TNG S4: Qpid I really like this episode. Lighthearted but fun. Comments Fri, 27 Feb 2015 20:21:29 PST Tom Comment by Tom on TNG S5: Redemption, Part II I agree with SkepticalMI that Sela's appearance caused the episode to be unfairly compressed. This was probably something that was decided by higher ups, and it sucks that she basically ruined part 2 of what could have been a really great 2 parter. I never liked her when she was on the show and now she comes back from the grave to hurt the series once more. I also agree that Worf getting kidnapped didn't add anything to the plot. And it did feel like there were way too many storylines going on at the same time. This might have worked better as a 3 part episode, but I don't think they ever did a 3 part episode. Still enjoyable despite everything. Comments Fri, 27 Feb 2015 20:20:27 PST Tom Comment by Meh on TNG S4: Qpid Meh... Comments Fri, 27 Feb 2015 18:22:28 PST Meh Comment by Brian S. on DS9 S7: Tacking into the Wind RUSOT: You're still a Cardassian, Garak. You're not going to kill one of your own people for a Bajoran woman. GARAK: How little you understand me. ---- It's scenes like this that further my belief that Garak is and always was sympathetic to the Bajoran people and that his sympathy is probably what led to his exile from Cardassia in the first place. It's not hard to imagine that Garak was given a brutal assignment against the Bajorans while a member of the Obsidian Order, and then refused to carry it out. In the S2 episode "The Wire," Garak tells a trio of lies about the reason for why he was exiled. You can't trust any of them, but all of them have some variation of him sparing a large group of Bajoran civilians. Garak has never shown revulsion, condescension, or even restrained antipathy towards any Bajorans. He's lived on the station for years with them. He hated Dukat (the prefect of the Bajoran Occupation). For someone so formerly ruthless and cold-hearted, he has regularly shown empathy towards the Bajoran people, and been unusually candid about the distasteful atrocities committed by Cardassians during the Occupation. Now, in the midst of the Cardassian rebellion, when he's finally getting a chance to fight for/with his people again, he sides with a Bajoran over a Cardassian. And I think his words here are very telling. He doesn't say that he's defending Kira because he likes/knows/trusts Kira more than Rusot or because the mission requires it (the way Damar does). Rusot makes it racial. A *Bajoran* is inferior to and worth less than a Cardassian, in his eyes. It's a sentiment Rusot has lived by. It's a sentiment Dukat and Damar have lived by (though Damar is starting to open his eyes to a different perspective). But Garak doesn't hesitate or even have to think about it. "How little you understand me." He's already there. Unlike most Cardassians, Garak already sees Bajorans as equals rather than inferiors. I think he's felt that way for a long, long time, and given the common thread in his "lies" about his exile, I think his feelings towards them played a part in it. Comments Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:50:40 PST Brian S. Comment by Xander on TOS S1: The Return of the Archons Did anyone else find it really annoying that none of Kirk's party tried to escape the jail cell under their own steam? That cell door took aeons to close and the guards never even looked behind themselves, but everyone just waited quietly in the cell to be absorbed one by one. WTF? Comments Fri, 27 Feb 2015 11:02:33 PST Xander Comment by Brian S. on DS9 S7: When it Rains... Kira arguably loved Ziyal more than Garak did. Garak may have been somewhat interested in her, but Kira loved her like a surrogate parent or a sister. Combined with her general hatred of Cardassians in general and the number of times Damar and Kira were at each other's throats, I think Kira had far more reason to want to kill Damar...and she was willing to set aside her feelings for the mission. On top of that, Kira is portrayed as being far more of a loose cannon prone to acting on her feelings of anger and hatred whereas Garak is a very cool customer who generally seems to keep a lid on things, focus on the job at hand, and act with cold calculating precision. Heck, he even fought side-by-side with Dukat in the Klingon attack of DS9. I'm sure Garak was tempted to kill Damar (just as he was tempted to kill Dukat). But if an angry hothead like Kira was able to control herself, Garak certainly would have. Comments Fri, 27 Feb 2015 10:59:00 PST Brian S. Comment by Elliott on TNG S3: The High Ground @Jonn Walsh Well that's a specious argument--white British people accepted that other white (recently) British people claimed independence for land which they themselves recently stole from the brown people (not really considered people in the 18th century)? That's not analogous to a 20th century land-seizure and occupation which actively displaces one group of people for the benefit of another being *accepted* by the global community. The fact that Jews, Semites and Israeli nationals have faced (and do indeed still face) persecution immaterial to the fact that the so-called "solution" to that problem was to inflict others with a different problem. Realistically, there is no option which doesn't include maintaining a sovereign Israeli nationstate, but what irks me at least (and I would argue is anathema to a lasting peace) is the attitude which posits Israel's illegal existence as shamelessly necessary, the consequences to others be damned; that its presence is *more* justified that the presence of Palestine, simply because the Holocaust happened. Comments Fri, 27 Feb 2015 08:50:44 PST Elliott Comment by Jonn Walsh on TNG S3: The High Ground And there's Corey ignoring the reasons why Israel's sovereignty was and still is necessary. Ongoing malignant world prejudices curry any need to consider Israel an illegally occupied land. Seems you may embrace some of them. It's been over 60 years since Israel's formation- heck, even Great Britain acknowledged America's sovereignty sooner than that. The nation of Israel has been fighting a battle for survival against the horrors of genocide for thousands of years, the only difference today being that they can do so from within their own borders, supported by their allies, rather than as disjointed minority factions within others' borders against people like you. Comments Fri, 27 Feb 2015 07:18:13 PST Jonn Walsh Comment by Vii on DS9 S7: Tacking into the Wind @Toraya: But I was disappointed in Damar's about-face. Just like that, the scales fall from his eyes, he jettisons a lifetime of beliefs, and kills his friend for saying "Let's rebuild our empire"? Yes, certainly it was all very tidy and dramatic, but way too rushed - and the speed with which Damar dispatched his loyal comrade was really morally questionable. (It's actually not okay to murder your friend and colleague because he holds different political beliefs from you. You might instead try ordering him to put down his weapon.) ------ I thought it was realistic. Damar's aboutface, as Jammer and lots of other people have noted, has been built up steadily, from episode 4 in season 6 where Damar submits a secret memo to Dukat recommending they destroy the ketracel-white. Already it's implied that he's not happy with the Dominion, and there are countless scenes from that point forward - probably even earlier - where Damar glares at the Jem'Hadar and Weyoun and expresses his misgivings to Dukat, who keeps him at bay, but the seeds of discontent are already there. Lots of things have been occurring thick and fast in the past few weeks leading up to the happenings in 'Tacking', and desperate times call for desperate measures, and Damar, as Jammer points out, has shown himself to be a person who can adapt himself to change and proves himself to be more than up to the challenge of a "new world." Garak nails it when he says "If he's the man to lead a new Cardassia, if he's the man we hope him to be, then the pain of this news made him more receptive to what you said, not less." I thought this was a wonderful line, one of the best in this episode, along with the earlier Kira-Damar exchange. It really acknowledged ot both the audience and the characters how much Damar has grown in such a short space of time, and how it's understandable that people might doubt his growth, and by what happens later - him shooting Rusot - it proves that Damar has indeed transcended doubt and proven himself the man Garak and Kira hoped he would become. In response to what you said about him attempting to "talk" Rusot out of it - I think we can safely assume that he already tried to do so on many occasions prior to their mission, obviously with no success. Judging by Rusot's willingness to kill Garak, a fellow Cardassian, just because he was on Kira's side, I think it's also safe to assume that he would have killed Damar too at that point, if Damar had showed even the slightest preference for Kira's side. And this was something Damar knew since he presumably knew him very well, so that was really the only option he had left, not to mention the fact that they had to make a speedy escape and they couldn't exactly spare anyone to guard Rusot if they wanted to restrain rather than kill him. In a tight situation like that we've seen that Cardassians prefer to kill rather than take prisoners, by the way Garak dispatched the entire bridge crew and Odo's appalled, "Was it really necessary to kill them all?" Finally, I really liked Garak's role in this entire guerilla arc. The focus is mainly on Damar's growth, but I think a lot can be said for how Garak always immediately jumps to Kira's defence ever since they started helping the Cardassians. Kira obviously isn't fond of Garak ("You want me to bring GARAK!?") and I can't see him taking that lying down, but like Damar, he's willing to put aside personal feelings for the greater good, to the extent that he's willing to risk his own life for her in that final epic showdown. Especially in these lines: RUSOT: You're still a Cardassian, Garak. You're not going to kill one of your own people for a Bajoran woman. GARAK: How little you understand me. [...] KIRA: Then let's all get the hell out of here. RUSOT: Not you. GARAK: I'm still here, Rusot. So much going on in this last scene. Very satisfying end to this particular story arc, as many have pointed out before me. Comments Fri, 27 Feb 2015 00:15:40 PST Vii Comment by Jonn Walsh on TNG S2: Peak Performance All of the debates notwithstanding, Kolrami lost. He lost because he refused to continue. If, outside of the bounds and effects of the match, a boxer leaves the ring during the fight, (s)he forfeits and (s)he loses. Baseball also clearly designates a winner in the case of forfeiture. Kolrami admits that he can't win so his leaving the table protects him from losing? Clearly, not. Unless there's a provision in the 'Rules of Strategema' (to which we, admittedly, are not privy) which specifically allows for a player to implement the indefinite or infinite suspension of a contest without forfeiture and its acceptance of defeat, we can clearly embrace the truth that, via the route of inducing forfeiture from his opponent, Data was indeed victorious. And further, after witnessing the frustration and anger that Kolrami took with him, I'd say that it's more than fair to conclude that Data "busted him up"! Great season finale! (shhhhh) Comments Thu, 26 Feb 2015 23:53:47 PST Jonn Walsh Comment by Dave on ENT S2: Stigma I thought that the AIDs in the 80s metaphor was trying to be topical and instead ended up outing itself as hopelessly out of step by rehashing old 80s stereotypes. The metaphor was so heavy handed as to be littered with cliche which made almost all the dialogue clunky. This episode would've been dramatic, bold and daring in TNG's first season. But for the 0's it feels too little too late. And speaking of unwanted sexual contact, the B-plot seemed like a needless stand in for all those hideous Lwaxana Troi episodes we'd gotten so sick of in earlier Trek. I enjoy allowing women to exhibit a healthy sexual appetite. But Feezal comes on so strong at Trip that she feels more like a sexual predator. Where's the middle ground that isn't portraying women as either madonna or whore? I realize that it's only an hour show but we're the Netflix generation. We recognize memes in the first 10-15 seconds. You don't have to beat us over the head with them in order to let us get the gist and move on. Speaking of moving on, the show needs to move on from Trip Tucker: ladies man. It doesn't become his character profile. It's much more along the lines of Malcolm for personality or Travis for looks. I'm sure most everyone can agree that Travis is the ship's eye candy for anyone who enjoys men. So why keep hiding him in the coat closet? If this show really wanted to engage they'd make Malcolm the one who keeps chasing after sexual partners while the alien of the week only ever has eyes for Travis. Am I the only one who wants Hoshi and Travis to ultimately end up together? Think of how gorgeous their children would be. I digress. In short, this episode strives to be as uncontroversial as sociopolitical commentary can get. Its message is at least 20 years too late (30 years by the time I got around to watching it) and seems more like a publicity stunt or ratings grab for sweeps than anything. It's a serious contender for worst episode of Enterprise in my book. Comments Thu, 26 Feb 2015 23:21:42 PST Dave Comment by Vii on DS9 S7: Strange Bedfellows I fully concur with the reviewer above. The Septimus III scenes were some of the most poignant ones, and the anguished way Damar demanded for reinforcements (although the viewer could see that he himself was probably aware of the outcome) and Weyoun's callous disinterest was amazing to watch, conveyed perfectly by the brilliance and chemistry of Casey Biggs and Jeffrey Combs. Also, is it just me, or was Worf a bit of a cunt in this episode? Some of the things he said to Ezri were pretty horrible, and actually the way he treated her ever since she stepped onto the station as well. His assertion that she seduced him and that her risking her life to save him was merely because she wanted to shag him. You'd think that he'd be more grateful and appreciative to someone who risked her life (and presumably a Starfleet court martial) for him. I suppose one might chalk it down to Klingon 'swag' and hotheadedness, but still. The Damar and Dominion plots were definitely the high point of the episode. I really wish they hadn't mauled Dukat's character arc, he and the Pahwraiths just seem so irrelevant to the 'big picture' now. Comments Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:10:26 PST Vii Comment by $G on TNG S5: Silicon Avatar @Curious Two months late but... The killing-the-bear law, IMO, is a foolish policy. Unless it's rabid, if a bear mauls or kills a human it's a little bit silly to put it down. Any bear in the same position, and any bear in general, is a threat to human life and would act the same way in the same situation. No single bear is more a threat to human life than other bears are. Killing one with the reasoning that it's a particular threat is misguided. If the situation requires immediate actions - fine, kill the bear. But hunting down a particular bear without entertaining a less destructive option is a disgraceful lack of respect for life and simply allowing vengeance and outrage to win out over reason. The crystalline entity is a little bit different, given how powerful it is, but I think the same logic can apply. I'm stunned to see people leaping all over Picard for his decision, even though he *clearly* stated that killing the entity was an option if a safe state of mutual communication could not be met. Riker, also, was reasonable in suggesting that taking the chance to destroy the entity is the best option. Picard initially accused Riker of being biased, and I think Riker rightly defended himself from the accusation and, as Jammer pointed out, seemed to convince Picard of the arrogance of his comment. The only person who was out of line was Dr. Marr, who was bloodthirsty. The episode (rightfully, I believe) came down against her. Her actions were vengeful and pre-mature because the crew hadn't yet exhausted all the options and seemed on the verge of making significant steps in communicating with the entity. Her actions were also analogous to why we have codified laws and courts and do not allow frontier justice by the wronged parties. Her actions were also believable and, IMO, still sympathetic, but sympathy for outrage should not be the driving factor in seeking justice. Re-watching TNG makes me really appreciate the characters (in general) as logical and deductive scientists, detectives, and diplomats. Each episode's script is obviously only as good as the guy or gal writing it, but I continue to enjoy the cool headed approaches to a lot of the situations the characters face. Very little hysteria. Reasonable courses of action. I appreciate it more now that I've grown up a bit. Someone above pointed out that a lot of these posts aren't really talking about the episode so much as they're now just arguing worldviews. That makes sense to me. The episodes raises issues and now we're running with them. But as an hour of drama, I still think the episode is quite solid. I particularly liked the use of Riker and the love interest. At first, it seemed cliche and cringeworthy. Even her death seemed like it might go in a corny, melodramatic direction. It didn't, and it resulted in a good scene between Riker and Picard about personal bias (with Picard being the one in the wrong, interestingly). We as viewers needed the first-hand tragedy of an established character losing someone. If it had been a family member or a close friend, Riker may have been seduced into bias, but since it was only a flirtatious, casual interest the episode let him believably keep his composure without requiring any hand-wringing and without requiring him to make a herculean effort of detachment in order to win an argument with Picard. Comments Thu, 26 Feb 2015 09:30:20 PST $G Comment by TRH on VOY S7: Lineage I think this episode is a fine example of solid Sci-Fi writing. In fact I don't think Michael from years ago could be more wrong...perhaps he's matured in his thinking since? What we have here is an examination of people dealing with the consequences of what future science may (and in Trek can) do. They established the premise that genetic modifications could be executed safely with the spinal issue first. Then they provided the characters with motive to leverage that technology for dubious reasons. It's examinations like this that in my opinion make some of the very best Science Fiction. It's how they relate to the real technology of today and how they spur the imagination of technology to come. For good, or bad. Great episode. And I loved Season 7 for how they finally begun implementing more running plot items and continuity. It's a shame much of Season 7 wasn't integrated in earlier seasons in my opinion. Comments Thu, 26 Feb 2015 08:55:15 PST TRH Comment by Dave in NC on TNG S4: The Nth Degree @ DLPB Hollywood is like any other industry: make a public enough stink about not getting work and eventually you for sure won't get any. Ask Victoria Rowell or the lady who played Aunt Viv on Fresh Prince. The truth is no one wants to hear a poor-me story about how the world is keeping someone down. Seriously, man, not everything should be viewed through a socio-political lens. You REALLY need to reevaluate your thought processes. Comments Thu, 26 Feb 2015 07:48:36 PST Dave in NC Comment by Dave in NC on TNG S7: Genesis Every problem people have with this episode could have been resolved by saying they were genetic MUTATIONS, not evolutionary throwbacks. It's a lot easier to enjoy if you just pretend that's the actual plot. Oh, and Gates McFadden did a GREAT job directing this episode. Lots of interesting camera angles and the atmospheric mood of dread is well-developed. My only complaint is the Barclay spider surprise in Engineering has gotten me single every time. :) *** 3 stars Comments Thu, 26 Feb 2015 07:42:03 PST Dave in NC Comment by Brian S. on DS9 S7: The Changing Face of Evil Boy, Worf is having the worst luck....Over the last 4 episodes, he's been on 3 ships that have been destroyed (the Klingon ship, the Runabout, and now the Defiant). Worf just spends like a week in an escape pod, gets rescued, then captured & tortured, is bailed out at the last moment before his execution, and just as he gets back to the station, the first battle he gets sent out on....right back into an escape pod. Worf should probably just take an extended shore leave, though at this point he'd probably find a way to get a paddleboat blown up, too. Still, he's probably enjoyed his time in escape pods more than he did his own honeymoon on Risa Comments Thu, 26 Feb 2015 07:24:18 PST Brian S. Comment by HolographicAndrew on TNG S7: Genesis This episode is hilarious, suspenseful, and awesome. Love it. Guilty pleasure for sure. I'm cool with having bad writing in a few episode if it means we get fun stuff with the TNG cast such as episodes like Genesis and Masks. There are 7 seasons of serious episodes, a few fun ones is a nice change. Comments Thu, 26 Feb 2015 07:14:16 PST HolographicAndrew Comment by Jonn Walsh on TNG S2: Time Squared Never cared for this one.... At one point Present Picard requests Deanna remain in sickbay, with Future Picard under her observation. Only moments after Present Picard departs sickbay, Deanna has a disagreement with Pulaski and what does she do? She leaves sickbay!! (defying a direct order)! Doesn't really matter though....after that, Present Picard never asks Troi anything about this observation of Future Picard. Picard KILLED his future self? What? Awful episode. @ Jack re: "your father liked to cook?" I always heard this as Pulaski, to herself, finishing the thought with something like, "the bastard never even made a slice of toast for me!", or "I knew that arrogant pr**k was keeping secrets"....Perhaps ol' Kyle hid this idiosyncrasy so that Dr. Kate would handle all of the culinary responsibilities. He was, after all, characterized as arrogant, secretive and manipulative. And a tad chauvinistic....Actually, I rather enjoyed this as a positive continuity point, not the opposite. All in all though, this episode is a heavy slab of dead weight. Comments Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:03:59 PST Jonn Walsh Comment by Vii on DS9 S7: Penumbra Damar: "No of course it doesn't." Easily the best line in this episode. Comments Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:48:24 PST Vii Comment by Shannon on ENT S3: The Forgotten ... and one other point to make, Berman was relentless in casting blame on UPN for not promoting the show which he claims led to viewers not being able to find the show. Bullsh*t!!! Check the ratings for the pilot "Broken Bow" and you'll see that 12.5 million viewers watched it. And an average of 9.8 million viewers watched the first few episodes. So Berman was excuse-making instead of facing the reality that he was producing a bad show. Pity! Comments Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:28:07 PST Shannon Comment by Shannon on ENT S3: The Forgotten Couldn't agree more that these last 3 episodes are some of the best work Enterprise had produced in it's nearly 3 year run at that point. Great writing, great acting, great directing, riveting plot advancement, and so much more... Some of the earlier episodes that were criticized now don't seem so bad, as they were necessary plot advancement tools needed later in the season... As for the series, unfortunately by this point they had lost too much of their audience thanks to Braga and Berman monopolizing all of the story-telling in the first season with bland and some cases downright stupid episodes. Where is Harve Bennett when you need him!? Comments Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:25:18 PST Shannon Comment by Hal Berstram on VOY S2: Threshold OK - I'll probably be certified and locked up for saying this but for sheer flat-out gonzo entertainment value this is one of the best episodes of Voyager, maybe one of the best episodes of any of the Trek franchises. I'd give it 3.5 stars, docking half a star for implausibility. But if we're going to start knocking points off for implausibility maybe we have to just score EVERY episode at zero stars because the way the ship gets knocked about and roughed up pretty much every episode and is then back to a pristine brand-new state next week is actually just as implausible as anything on offer here. Some good performances and a plot that definitely isn't run of the mill "spatial anomalies" or the usual techy plots. For me this was a winner. Supplemental note:Note the warp factors used in TOS and in TNG are not comparable. When TNG started Roddenberry apparently decided that Warp 10 should be the absolute maximum speed and so the warp factor would asymptotically approach 10 for faster and faster velocities. Hence we hear in "Caretaker" that Voyager's max speed is Warp 9.975 or some such. I have to say this asymptotic warp scale strikes me as ludicrous - presumably by the year 3000 they are all travelling at warp 9.9999999 or some nonsense - but that's the way it is. The idea of the warp 10 shuttle being everywhere in physical space in the universe at the same time is obviously ludicrous - for one thing it would annihilate all other matter. It makes more sense if it is somehow outside space entirely (as is supposed to be the case with standard warp speeds) - perhaps in another dimension. But in terms of basic entertainment "Threshold" delivers. Where I do agree with Jammer is that there's no obvious reason they couldn't have used warp 10 and modified the Voyager engines to get home instantaneously if the doctor's antiproton treatment works. So it would have been best if this had been the series finale and then the end was Voyager turning up in the Alpha Quadrant, a search and rescue ship being sent to intercept them, the rescue team beaming onto Voyager and finding 150 giant slugs with only the Doc able to explain what happened. What a way to end it! Comments Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:01:21 PST Hal Berstram Comment by Brian S. on DS9 S7: Shadows and Symbols So, remembering back to the series pilot episode "Emissary" when Sisko explains the concepts of linear time, death, and procreation to the would seem they already know all about those things. Personally, I found this plot twist very disappointing. Sisko's decisions and actions with regard to Bajor and the Prophets seemed far more meaningful when they were just those of a human interacting freely. Now that we know his entire existence is just a byproduct of Prophet manipulation, all of his current and past behaviors are viewed as being those of a baby Prophet rather than a human Starfleet officer. Later in the season, they make a big deal about Sisko building a home on Bajor. And that would be a big deal, if Sisko were a human. But essentially he's not. He's half Prophet. His entire existence was conceived for the purposes of serving the Prophets and defeating the Paghwraiths. The Prophets are his family. Looking back over the series, it makes his acceptance of the Emissary role more of a pre-ordained inevitability than a conscious choice. Sisko's willingness to let go of his son Jake in "The Reckoning" now makes it look less like a leap of faith and more like something he was just supposed to do. @Phillip: I hadn't thought of it that way before, but you are totally right. Sisko is a Prophet rape baby. Comments Wed, 25 Feb 2015 15:48:03 PST Brian S. Comment by DLPB on TNG S4: The Nth Degree He also doesn't seem bad to me. Seems like someone who is sick of leftist fascists and apologists. Nice to see a guy who cares and who lives in the real world. A lot of hollywood is the way it is because those people never have to live in places with crime and so on. Deluded, self hating , appeasing leftists. Comments Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:54:54 PST DLPB Comment by DLPB on TNG S4: The Nth Degree I regret learning that Dwight Schultz is a wacko conspiracy believing tea bagger nutjob. I can't enjoy the Barclay episodes now. ----------- Shame that your left-leaning, tolerance for all Trek mantra doesn't seem to extend to those you disagree with. Funny that. Comments Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:48:02 PST DLPB Comment by DLPB on TNG S7: Genesis What you are asking me and others to do, Shannon, is shut off our brains and accept bad writing. Criticizing people for having higher standards is plain stupid. And no, I won't stop "taking it so damn seriously". Doing that means we are in for more lamely written episodes. Some of us want more than that, even if you don't. Comments Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:38:17 PST DLPB Comment by Icarus32Soar on DS9 S3: Life Support Vedek Bareil a weak character played by a poor actor? Nuts! Bareil has quiet inner moral strength and acts on principle and out of pure motivation, sacrificing his own career for the greater good as he sees it. Gene would have been proud of this character had he lived to see him.He is far closer to Gene's vision of a benign future than the cartoonish action men, the typical two-dimensional federation officers spawned by the much vaunted academy.He has moral layers that satisfy. Anglim plays him with an admirable understated dignity that is never brash and in your face. I love all Star Trek but killing off Bareil in this episode and Kes in Voyager has been unforgivable. It shows writers unwilling to take a risk and develop characters that are outside the square. PITY! Comments Wed, 25 Feb 2015 01:50:45 PST Icarus32Soar Comment by Icarus32Soar on DS9 S3: Fascination Yeah, Keiko was always a bad idea that should have been nipped in the bud, but for the rest of it, you guys literally missed the point of this episode. It's a spoof of Midsummer Night's Dream. Magic dust and mischievous fairies, in this case the gorgeous stupendous magnificent Majel, mistaken identities and everyone falling for the most improbable person, I was in 5 minutes into the episode. It surprises me how often Star Trek fans of all series loathe certain episodes because they can't identify the allusions these episodes make to other elements of western English speaking culture. It is one of the great strengths of the whole Star Trek that it does this. Comments Wed, 25 Feb 2015 01:37:00 PST Icarus32Soar Comment by Justin on DS9 S4: The Way of the Warrior lol the Romulans look like sofas. Yup. Badly upholstered ones... Comments Tue, 24 Feb 2015 21:29:06 PST Justin Comment by Shannon on ENT S3: Damage Hands down one of the best episodes of the series, and quite possibly a top 10 episode across all of the Trek series. This had everything I was hoping to see this season given the nature of their mission, drama, suspense, ethical questions, taking the characters to a dark place, and downright gritty action sequences... Regarding some of the comments about Jolene Blalock, I don't give a damn if she didn't like where the writers took the character... the last time I checked Jolene was simply an actress and not a writer, and we should all be thankful for that. This was brilliant writing, and it gave her the opportunity to take the character from being a monotone robot to something actually interesting... Anyway, I agree with the 4 star rating. Jammer was spot on in his review! Comments Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:26:18 PST Shannon Comment by Hal Berstram on VOY S2: Prototype If you can get past the ludicrous conceit that the Voyager crew would try to resuscitate an artificial life form they know absolutely *zilcho* about (Tuvok's "this is a security risk - understatement of the century!) then this was actually a good episode - maybe 3 stars. The robots looked reassuringly "Buck Rogers" - I kept expecting that little guy who went "biddledediddledediddlededeee" to pop his head round the door (Tweaky, was it?) one thing this episode proves is that the writers of "Nemesis" never watched Voyager. Mr Data is alive and well several decades after TNG in this timeline... Comments Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:15:18 PST Hal Berstram Comment by Thrackerzod on VOY S3: The Swarm One thing that bugged me is how Zimmerman said his program would no longer exist after the procedure. Is there some reason that they cannot make copies of programs in the future? I could do it with floppy disks decades ago but for some reason they can't make a backup copy of a holodeck program. *shrug* Comments Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:04:54 PST Thrackerzod Comment by El Treko on DS9 S3: Second Skin Garak says to Bashir: "but aside from our brief excursion to Bajor, I don't think I've been off this station in nearly three years." He was referring to the episode "Cardassians". But didn't he leave the station during the evacuation in "The Siege", just a few episodes before "Cardassians"? Comments Tue, 24 Feb 2015 10:14:58 PST El Treko Comment by Yanks on DS9 S7: The Siege of AR-558 Brian S. - Mon, Feb 23, 2015, 8:11pm (USA Central) Wow, amazing post! Thanks. Comments Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:16:05 PST Yanks Comment by Jen on VOY S1: Cathexis I agree with Skeptical. The potential was there for a good episode. Having two body jumpers was unique. However, having one of them be Chakotay was problematic for the reasons everyone already stated. There were a couple of entertaining moments - when Harry was only daydreaming but everyone jumped up and looked like they were going to give him a beat down because they thought he was inhabited by the alien and when Tuvok shot at the bridge crew were good moments. I also agree that the crew's reactions should have had more of a focus. I think there should have been more paranoia. I am also mystified as to why the writers on Voyager seem to overlook REALLY big plot holes. Don't get me wrong, every series is going to have stories that don't work, but Voyager's writers seem to be the worst. Why can't Chakotay warn the crew? Who knows. I'm unclear as to why this wasn't the first question asked in the writer's room. Comments Tue, 24 Feb 2015 07:56:45 PST Jen Comment by Shannon on TNG S7: Genesis Good grief, people, stop taking episodes like this so damn seriously! The plot was a bit ludicrous, I agree, but it was a rather entertaining episode. I really don't care how DNA works, it's not like transporters will ever be a viable technology, so give it rest already... 2.5 stars Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 19:19:31 PST Shannon Comment by Brian S. on DS9 S7: The Siege of AR-558 Some excerpts From Memory Alpha that I think address some of the criticisms posted here: -According to Ira Steven Behr, "I felt that we needed to do it. War sucks. War is intolerable. War is painful, and good people die. You win, but you still lose. And we needed to show that as uncompromisingly as possible. War isn't just exploding ships and special effects." -The writers specifically chose Nog, Ezri, Quark, and Bashir as the central characters for this episode because they had the least fighting experience. Characters like Kira, Worf, and O'Brien were purposely left out of the fighting, as they all had combat experience and knew how to handle themselves in such a situation. The writers, however, were more keen on seeing the reactions of people who didn't know how to handle themselves. -Director Winrich Kolbe had fought in the Vietnam War, and he allowed his knowledge of combat to influence his direction of the episode; "The images you see are trenches of churned-up dirt. The battleground always looked like there was absolutely nothing there that anyone could ever want. Yet people were blowing each other to smithereens over this land. I wanted AR-558 to be that type of battleground, a totally nondescript piece of real estate that didn't deserve one drop of blood to be shed for it. It shouldn't say anything to the eye or the mind except that we were there because somebody had decided to put a relay station on this rock." Kolbe goes on to say, "We wanted the siege scene in "AR-558" to convey the psychological impact, and not come across like a shoot-em-up. What I remember from Vietnam is sitting in a ditch somewhere and waiting. It's the waiting that drives you nuts. You know they're coming. You can hear them. You can feel them. When you have to wait, your mind plays tricks on you, and you hear things and you see things, like Vargas, who's about to explode. Once the battle starts, your adrenaline kicks in and you have an objective. But when you have to wait, time just slows down to a crawl." Kolbe felt that the battle for AR-558 had a great deal of similarity with the 1968 Battle of Khe Sanh, a battle which was won by the Americans, but the strategic significance of which is still debated to this day. Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:20:24 PST Brian S. Comment by Brian S. on DS9 S7: The Siege of AR-558 @WCrusher: "This is where ST really started to tank... The same pro-military, anti-trek issues dogging this ep as did on much of ENT. Nog has been completely brainwashed by military dogma. And everyone is ok with it?" This episode doesn't strike me as pro or anti-military. To whatever degree you believe (like Quark) that the Federation never should've gotten involved in this war, the fact is they are in the middle of a war. Wars involve soldiers. And as Star Trek episodes go, this episode comes the closest to capturing both the dark brutal reality of what soldiers are asked to do and the costs they must pay (physically and mentally). What bothers me the most about Star Trek is the hidden antiseptic way that skirmishes, battles, and even entire wars are fought. Wars are fought safely off-screen by faceless soldiers/victims that are never shown and whom we never care about. When battles are fought by the Enterprise or Defiant or whatever other Starfleet ship is involved almost always win. Entire colonies might be destroyed, entire fleets might be wiped out, but all the people we care about always survive. Even when Spock dies at the end of Wrath of Khan, Kirk risks his career and life to get his best friend back (no such sacrifice is attempted for any of the other trainees killed in that battle though). Heck, the entire joke about the "Red Shirts" in Star Trek revolves around the idea that somebody has to die to make the plot remotely believable or dangerous, but never anybody we know or care about. Dozens of Red Shirts die forgettably or unheralded in conflicts while the main characters chuckle and make wisecracks To me, this too conveniently parallels how wars are fought in our present-day world. Battles go on every day, but they are fought on what might as well be a foreign planet by nameless faceless "Red Shirt" soldiers whose stories we will never hear or care about because they don't directly affect us. Oh sure, many of us do empathize and even respect the sacrifices they make in a general human way, but since it's not us or people we have a direct connection to, it's not the same. It's why 1730 people are killed in one light week, yet DS9 fans only get worked up over the death of one Jadzia and the injury to one Nog. For my money, this is the episode among all others that brings the plight of the Red Shirt (and to a certain extent, our own military) into better perspective. War is not pretty. It isn't always fought by balding Shakespearean actors in a plush command center ordering someone to press a button which fires an energy beam which instantly/painlessly kills a thousand people. Victims (on both sides) are not just plot devices involving nameless characters that nobody directly cares about. In the TOS episode "Arena," over 500 Federation Colonists are killed by the Gorn, along with several Enterprise Red Shirts....and all anyone can talk about is the cheesy costume worn by the actor portraying the Gorn. 500+ Federation citizens died in the conflict of an episode has become quintessential part of Star Trek lore as mostly a joke. DS9 shows an episode where maybe a dozen officers get killed in conflict in addition to the 107 killed prior to the beginning of the episode, and this is supposed to be the poster child for this series being anti-Trek/anti-Roddenberry. The only difference between the two episodes (aside from the 400 fewer characters killed at AR-558) is that one episode showed the brutality and attempted to make you feel pain for the victims and the survivors, while the other sloughed off the widespread death and destruction as a forgettable afterthought. If Star Trek's "Utopian" vision is simply defined by ignoring or not caring about the horrors of the world/galaxy, then that's not a universe I wish to ever live in. Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:11:23 PST Brian S. Comment by Vii on DS9 S4: The Way of the Warrior When Garak or Dukat are onscreen, this show CRACKLES. ---- I'm probably replying to this comment 4 years too late, but I have to concur utterly with your sentiments. I fell in love with DS9 the very first time I watched it, but upon my second and third viewings, the only episodes I felt like watching were the Garak centric episodes, and Dukat before he started all that Pahwraith nonsense. The Cardassian-Dominion arcs in the last season, especially, were the cherries atop of a fabulous cake, and introduced another superb Cardassian, Damar. It's almost as if all the genius from the writers, when it came to constructing species and characters in ST, went into these few Cardassian characters and actually the whole Cardassian race as a whole. The only other alien species that comes close to the development of Cardassians is probably the Borg, but in a different way. As some others have pointed out, the inconsistencies of Klingons weakened their credibility, and the same actually goes for Romulans, whom to me always seemed like plot-device villains that looked like sofas. The Ferengi and the Breen were a joke, and the Vulcans were too one-dimensional to be truly compelling - in a nutshell, they're logical, emotionless and suffer from pon farr, which makes for episode B plots when the writers can't come up with anything else. But the Cardassians were passionate, slimey, devious, sincere, and perhaps redeemed. You rooted for them, you sometimes wanted their guts, but you couldn't stop following their storyline and inexplicably caring about them. I think one reason they were so good is because Marc Alaimo, Andrew Robinson and Casey Biggs threw themselves so completely into their roles. They really relate to their characters and put themselves in their mindsets. Robinson kept a diary whilst filming DS9, of his thoughts as Garak, and later published it as a novel. They all believed in their characters and their motivations - to the point that I think Nana Visitor even once stated that she had a hard time separating Marc Alaimo from his character, and doesn't like talking to him. That speaks volumes about their dedications to their characters. Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:51:48 PST Vii Comment by Brian S. on Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home To be fair to Uhura and Chekov, my wife is 35 years old, has lived here in the Bay Area her entire life....and SHE doesn't know where Alameda is either. And even if you know where Alameda is, that doesn't mean you necessarily know where the naval base is or how to get there without a car. Which is why they were asking for directions on where it is and how to get there. The bigger moron in that scene was the clueless lady who "helped" them. Chekov asked where the Naval Base in Alameda was, and her response was to say, "I think it's across the Bay, in Alameda." That's like someone asking me where Golden Gate Park in San Francisco is, and me telling them "I think it's in San Francisco." Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:03:20 PST Brian S. Comment by Peter on TNG S4: Suddenly Human I agree with Jammer's 2-star rating on this episode, which was one of the weaker ones in this season. On the child abuse issue, I'm inclined to go with what seems to have been the writer's intention: that Jeremiah/Jono was not in fact physically abused by his adoptive father. This is a fictional story, after all, so there is no larger truth to uncover beyond the one the writers put in the script. That said, the episode does raise an interesting question of how to judge an alien cultural practice (a military officer's kidnapping of an enemy's orphaned son to replace his own dead child) but then seems to fumble the handling of this complex subject with a very pat and arbitrary answer. Even to our relatively "unenlightened" 21st-century sensibilities, spiriting away an orphan child whose civilian parents one has just killed in war is only compounding the wrong that was committed - regardless of whether or not a nurturing environment was subsequently provided for the kid. That said, forcibly returning said kid to his original culture after 12+ years of acclimation would also not have been a solution without any downside. It seems to me that Picard was caught between a rock and hard place here, and his seemingly arbitrary and single-handed decision to send the kid back is not characteristic of his usual careful deliberations. That said, my biggest complaints with this episode were that: 1) Troi more or less forces Picard to take the boy under his wing when the obvious choice would be Worf; 2) no mention is made of any communication between Picard and the admiral/grandparent before the final decision (which makes me wonder that Picard didn't end up taking the Earth job from "Family" subsequent to his being drummed out of Starfleet!); and 3) there is no reference to the boy's ability to continue rediscovering his human roots and potentially growing up to become some kind of cross-cultural ambassador. Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:47:30 PST Peter Comment by Yanks on DS9 S6: Far Beyond the Stars Dave in NC - Amen, well stated. Someone has to stop this out of control spending and real in the Patriot Act. Brian S. - "WTF" aye. I thought the same thing during this episode. It just doesn't make sense. "But in the end, Sisko re-commits himself to Starfleet...because something? Plot maybe? Perhaps contractual obligation with the corporeal beings at Paramount Studios?" lol ... perfect. MsV - Politics is a big part of DS9. (it's actually prevalent throughout all trek) Your insight makes Avery's performance more palatable. Thanks. Your opinion of his acting throughout the series is just that, your opinion though :-) Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:53:54 PST Yanks Comment by Yanks on DS9 S6: Inquisition Brian S., Well said. MsV, Here an exchange from that scene between Bashir and Weyoun: "BASHIR: What truth? That you broke me when I was in the prison camp? WEYOUN: We're not barbarians. There was no torture involved. We simply helped you to see that there's no way Starfleet can defeat the Dominion. And because you didn't want billions of Federation citizens to lose their lives needlessly, you agreed to provide us with information that would help us end this war quickly. You rose above the petty question of whose side you were on and made a moral decision. It's not surprising, really. After all, you are a doctor." I think it's fair to read this as "you" and "we". I don't think Weyoun is being literal here. ... and Bashir was defiant where Weyoun asked him about the scone. But good catch nonetheless. Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 10:26:14 PST Yanks Comment by Yanks on DS9 S1: Captive Pursuit MsV, Verbal reprimand (I quoted above). I don't think anything derogatory went in his record. Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 10:07:40 PST Yanks Comment by Yanks on DS9 S1: Babel MsV, He did? When? ... Where? Don't confuse being different from the other captains with acting chops. Two different animals there. Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 10:04:47 PST Yanks Comment by Yanks on DS9 S2: The Siege MsV, What? did I say something here? Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:25:48 PST Yanks Comment by Yanks on ENT S2: The Catwalk Corey, I think I agree with you here. Star Fleet 1st deep space mission. The fist time this crew has dealt with a hazard like this. It could have carried this episode. That said, I didn't mind it so much. Rather enjoyable episode in my book. Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:16:37 PST Yanks Comment by Robert of ST-v-SW on TOS S3: That Which Survives The Kalandan defense system beamed a million-ton starship a thousand light-years . . . I'm pretty sure sending in a Catwoman fembot projection afterward was a cakewalk. Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:41:53 PST Robert of ST-v-SW Comment by Del_Duio on DS9 S6: Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night Very good episode. I think the only thing I was a bit confused about though was did the Orb of Time take Kira back as an observer or could she actually interact and possibly change the past while there? How she saved Dukat from getting blown up by the bomb she planted makes me think the latter. Maybe I just missed what the capacity of the orb was while running after my kids haha. Comments Mon, 23 Feb 2015 05:25:42 PST Del_Duio Comment by MsV on DS9 S2: Paradise This is a pretty good episode. I liked the story, especially the way Sisko/Alixus were easily at odds from the beginning. The woman was another Jim Jones without the massacres. As someone mentioned above how she would revert to extreme cruelty when someone opposed her views. She even had a son with a stupid look on his face with a false sense of power carrying that bow and arrow around. The colonist should have reacted more when they found out Alixus lied and schemed to get them there. I wonder how many of them had other family members they they never saw again. This a good episode. Comments Sun, 22 Feb 2015 23:38:28 PST MsV Comment by HolographicAndrew on TNG S7: Dark Page Smith wrote: "Gene Roddenberry was very specific in that he didn't like mourning episodes (24th century officers are beyond that, plus the concept is simple and boring). This is why he did not like Ron Moore's “dead mother who comes back” episode...and who the other producers weaseled into the lineup regardless." I have to ask why does that matter? Gene Roddenberry apparently didn't even want Patrick Stewart, arguably the best thing about TNG, to be playing Picard. Going against Gene Roddenberry made the show better. As for this episode I found it more moving than most Troi episodes. Actually I kinda like it. But I disagree with Woof I'm glad they had family episodes in season 7. TNG is not all about space battles / anomalies - even All Good Things had a focus on the character's relationships and that was why it's so good. Comments Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:31:18 PST HolographicAndrew Comment by Shannon on TNG S4: The Nth Degree @Sintek... You are an idiot. Comments Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:27:47 PST Shannon Comment by Seth on VOY S6: Unimatrix Zero, Part I The overuse of the Borg and the introduction of Seven of Nine was one of the things that made VGR the weakest of the modern Trek series by a long shot (aside from the repetition of TNG scripts with only the characters and ship changed). 39 starships are wiped out at Wolf 359. The Defiant, specifically designed to fight the Borg, had main power, shields and weapons down and was adrift "but salvageable" (as a courtesy for future DS9 plots) during the 2nd Borg attack in "First Contact". But with a former drone to punch in a few Borg commands, a 140-person scout ship (as Voyager was classified as), with 32 photon torpedoes (as the Borg scanned their defenses during Scorpion Part II") can go toe-to-toe with a Borg TACTICAL vessel, more heavily armed and armored than a regular cube that destroyed dozens of stronger Federation ships, and survive. One blast of a Borg tractor beam should have knocked out shields and weapons. A second blast should have knocked emergency power out and destroyed three or four decks, along with the port nacelle and put Janeway out of her misery. But thanks to her plot armor, Voyager went toe-to-toe and was still standing at the end, so Chakotay could give away the plot of Part 2. Ugh. I hated Seven of Nine. She and Janeway should have marooned the rest of the crew on a planet and gone off to have their little lesbian fantasies on Voyager alone. Chakotay, Kim, Torres and Paris were pretty much pushed aside. Instead we get Neelix, who was irritating beyond belief, The Doctor waxing about opera and literature, Tuvok being more illogical and emotional than humans, and Seven of Nine remaining in a state of permanent naiveté for three years except for Janeway's attempts to help 'humanize' her with her bipolar rantings. Comments Sun, 22 Feb 2015 13:19:18 PST Seth Comment by SamSimon on DS9 S2: The Siege Also surprised to see so few comments... I rewatched the trilogy today and found it amazing. So much quality. Of course it's not perfect (Quark in the third episode, the death of Li Nalas...), but it's high quality Star Trek. I agree with Jammer on this (as usual), and I look forward to seeing the rest of the season! Comments Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:59:16 PST SamSimon Comment by The Dreamer on DS9 S7: What You Leave Behind Thanks for this site Jammer and thank you posters as well. I am a big fan of the entire Trek Franchise. I still have a lot of TNG, DS9 & VOY on VHS. But I did miss a lot of DS9 during the original airing due to the crazy scheduling. My wife did a lot of recording for me since I was a night worker for a long time. There were episodes in each series that I did really care for but this site along with Memory Alpha gave me new found appreciation for those episodes. Especially when it provided insights into what the producers, actors and directors were trying to do and ether failed or suceeded in accomplishing. Interestingly, they are quite frank about how and when they messed up and equally when they were just trying to have a little fun. E.G. the little ship episode. Thanks to Netflix (TM) I have been rewatching DS9 solely focusing on how the characters developed. For example, I could not remember the episode where Jake was teaching Nog to read, or when Nog wanted to join the federation since those were always B stories. But I finally found them and enjoyed them. There are also episodes that I don't like as much but hey I know it is just a show and accept it as such. We cannot expect a perfect product. One thing I did appreciate was the effort put forth to flesh out the characters, heck even the GemHadar had some development. But even then, time ran out and some issues could not be shoehorned in even though the producers wanted to. Oh well. It was also obvious that the cast was aware of these efforts and as far as I know, did not have any issues with the screen time or lack thereof. (If they did I know someone will point this out.) Also imagine how things would be now with so many shows going to shorter seasons! I know that the religious angle was controversial and the producers got a lot of heat for it. Maybe that is why the Pahwraith arc fell a little flat. One poster made a point about the chants needed to awaken the aliens. (Post Hypnotic response perhaps?) But I did like the posts that highlighted that more dialogue would have been interesting in the fire caves between Sisko and Dukat as a follow up to "Waltz", but we did not get it. I am certain that if it did happen, someone would have once again critized Brooks for overacting (not me!). But I guess then it would have been appropriate. Who knows. I do know that the producers tried to bring us the unexpected and most times they succeeed. That being said, If all that was needed was to knock a possessed man with a special book off of a cliff, that was something anyone could have physically done. But in a war of words and wills, perhaps this would have made the showdown more meaningful since that was always the crux between Sisko and Dukat the war of wills as opposed to a physical or spritual confrontation. This would have been interesting, Dukat getting the upper hand by means of his red eye powers an at the same time they are going at it verbally, then Sisko says something that distracts Dukat, affects his focus for a moment, then Sisko gets all "Hulk Hogan" on him, gains the upper hand and then knocks him over the cliff, perhpahs still "dying" in the process. Cheesy? Corny? Perhaphs, but based on the way it happened, Winn could have tackled Dukat and sealed the gate and then what of sisko? Enough on that. I also wondered why Sisko did not visit Jake either. It seems that corporeal visits to the celestial temple are limited to one person at a time. My only other conclusion is that since Sisko is not "dead" and Jake has matured a lot , he is not the person he was during "The Visitor" and Sisko felt that speaking to Cassidy was the thing to do and that Jake would understand. Whose to say that Jake did not get a visit offscreen or that they did not discuss the events of "Visitor" at some point. I guess a hint would have been nice or those so called "throw away lines" used to tie upt loose ends. But we don't know and can only speculate and I have not read any Trek novels other than Q-Squared so phaser me. The race discussions were also very interesting. The opinions cited are enough so I wont add to it. I do recall one post about the lack or absense of dark skinned bajorans. There were in fact numerous dark skinned bajorans (civilains, vedeks, security members) throughout the series. But these extras rarely spoke and there was never an episode that featured one of these characters as a major player. Apart from the main cast (Brooks, Dorn, Lofton) there were plenty of African Americans who had intrigal roles so there was plenty of representation. (Tvtropes has topic of about the alleged whiteness of space and sci fi, and they handle it with humor and class as well). So there, as a plot point the race of the actors is a non issue, to me anyway. Rewatching any program often allows the us to pick up on very subtle actions added to the story line to make us think. I liked the comment about the subtle interacions between Sloan and Ross. I will be looking for that one the next time. But this is not to say there were no plot holes. The discussion about a "cloaked" trilithium bomb being sent toward a sun was very interesting and nicely discussed on this site. During apocalypse rising I still wondered if stabbing a changling would actually kill him. Remember someone threw an object at Odo and the object went through him, but he was aware of this so that may explaiin it, and he was been knocked out as well . But it was clear that "Martok" wanted them to shoot Gowron anyway. But it is what it is. The banter on the board is intriguing and I also don't always agree with the opinions of each one but enjoyed it all nonetheless. See you in space!! Comments Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:25:06 PST The Dreamer Comment by Josh on DS9 S7: What You Leave Behind I actually like the abrupt and almost random way Damar died. He died fighting "for Cardassia" - the precise mechanics aren't important, and the execution as presented makes it more realistic. He's not Boromir fighting off orcs in The Fellowship of the Ring. I tend to blame Paramount for not really allowing enough budget to end off the Pah-Wraith arc with more impressive setpieces. Comments Sun, 22 Feb 2015 08:02:58 PST Josh Comment by aemom on ENT S2: Horizon I also love the scene where T'Pol basically shuts the doctor up during the movie and even sticks her hand in Archer's bowl of popcorn. Comments Sun, 22 Feb 2015 04:49:46 PST aemom Comment by Positronic Pakled on VOY S3: Worst Case Scenario Unlike many of the other reviewers I didn't have a problem with the last act of the episode involving Seska. Nevertheless, the comments of other reviewers did get me thinking about how the episode might have ended if the last act had focused on the implications of finishing the holo- novel. It occurred to me that if the story had continued to focus on the completion of the holo- novel the writers could have used it as an opportunity for real character growth. For instance, Tuvok was concerned about the possibility that his holo-novel might inflame the old conflict between Star Fleet and Maquis crew members. What if it turned out that Tuvok was right about the holo-novel having an emotional impact on the crew but not in the way that he thought. What if they finished the holo-novel with the Maquis taking over the ship. Then we could see how Chakotay might have handled situations and conflicts shown in past episodes differently than Janeway. What if it turned out that because Chakotay and the Maquis were not bound by Star Fleet ethics or the need to explore the unknown that he was able to get the voyager crew home. The episode could have ended with Janeway reflecting on this fact which might have had an influence on her choices in future episodes. Comments Sun, 22 Feb 2015 04:36:27 PST Positronic Pakled Comment by NCC-1701-Z on DS9 S7: What You Leave Behind @Vii: If Damar's death as it was in this ep was considered 'more meaningful', I'd hate to know what they had originally written. This was still a very good series finale even by today's standards but Damar's death and the wrapping up of the Pah-Wraith arc were major minus points in my book. Comments Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:23:37 PST NCC-1701-Z Comment by Vii on DS9 S3: Civil Defense I really liked this episode too. Was rather surprised that Jammer disliked the Odo/Quark plotline so much, it was one of the highlights of the episode for me - along with the scene where the computer turns on Dukat, and Garak gloats over him. But seriously, every Odo/Quark exchange was gold. Quark's "It's because they knew you were an honorable man. The kind of person who would do the right thing regardless of the circumstances. And now your integrity... is going to get us both killed. I hope you're happy" had me laughing for a good five minutes. Comments Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:19:49 PST Vii Comment by Eli on VOY S2: Death Wish Good episode overall. To me, this show was not about suicide, but instead about the purpose of life. What is the purpose of life? For humans the purpose of life is based in a meaningful context. Graham Q (I'll go with Jammer's terms) argues that the Q no longer have a meaningful context with which to pursue their existence (at least for him). This discussion leads the viewer to ask how they find a meaningful context with which to view their own lives. I believe, for instance, that a meaningful context can be created when people decide to solve real problems. In our more advanced society, we (like the Q) sometimes have the power to ignore societal problems (at least to some degree). I think that if this Graham Q were human, he would seek some real involvement with the world in which he lived. Apparently the Q can no longer do that. Unlike in the case of the Q, in our case, ignoring problems comes with greater risk. If we ignore problems we put ourselves at risk for greater problems in the future. So, living a meaningful life is an essential part of our survival. All in all the show provides a good, thought provoking story. But, the ending, to me, diminishes much of the complexity of the earlier material. The writers should have pushed for a more ambiguous, more open ended final act. Otherwise, the Q story and the implications for human beings becomes muddled. So, this was a good, but disappointing episode. Comments Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:57:19 PST Eli Comment by Vii on DS9 S7: What You Leave Behind I too was disappointed by how Damar died. Considering how his character arc was built up over the past season or so (his character arguably had the most development), having him go out like that didn't provide adequate closure. I read a Casey Biggs interview (source: where he said that they had originally planned an unsatisfying, Tasha-esque death for him, and he asked if that could be changed to a more meaningful death. I also remember reading another interview a few months ago (can't find the link now, unfortunately) where Casey Biggs stated that his last word "Keep.." was adlibbed by him, since he felt that him falling dead without any last words also didn't do Damar justice. It's a sentiment that I share, and I appreciate the gravity and depth Biggs brought to Damar's character - "Well helloooo!" "Maybe you should go talk to Worf again, ha!" are just a few of the choice lines he delivered during the latter episodes of DS9. My favourite story arc in general to be honest was the Garak-Kira-Damar storyline. Superb acting and lines. I could have easily surrendered the Pah-wraith storyline for more of their scenes. Dukat's character was butchered, which was a shame, as he shone in earlier seasons, as evidenced by episodes such as the darkly humourous 'Civil Defence.' Comments Sat, 21 Feb 2015 14:50:28 PST Vii Comment by Dave on ENT S1: Shockwave, Part I I've been working my way through every episode of Star Trek including TAS and all the movies. Some episodes are exciting and fun. But entire stretches often feel like a chore to get through. I have to completely disagree with the majority here. I feel like this was one of the worst episodes of the whole season. I liked Archer's soul searching. And I liked having to deal with the consequences of a tiny mistake leading to a massive loss of life. That's good character development, and thus, good Trek. But I have to agree with Mahmoud above that Time Travel episodes are their own worst enemies. That's because the second you are allowed to manipulate the 4th dimension, you've taken away all sense of urgency, all consequence to any action, indeed you've removed any sense of conflict at all. What does anything matter when you have time on your side to just hit 'undo'? Time travel works best when it's done for psychological effect a la Groundhog's Day where characters are being manipulated by a quirk of time but have no actual control over it. Or, more commonly, when it's just being played for fun. The DS9/TOS crossover comes to mind. But to try and create an action piece without the limits of the 4th dimension is absurd. Action relies on timing and momentum and control of time eliminates both. One of the worst time memes Voyager used was a sense of urgency from some future group in order to ensure that they can activate the plot device for group B who is operating in the past. As if the two are connected at a single point. You're controling an event that happened 300 years ago! What does it matter if you're 10 seconds too late? Or 10 minutes? Or 10 years? You can literally press the button whenever you want provided that you aim it at the correct point in the past! So the sense of urgency for squad A is completely mute! Not sure if I described that clearly but I'm worried we're going to suffer the same problem in part II of this episode as well. I can't feel a sense of urgency for any group with the ability to manipulate time any more than I feel for a billionaire who doesn't have correct change for a pack of gum. Comments Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:55:38 PST Dave Comment by Vii on TNG S6: Time's Arrow, Part II Actually, add VOY's Lon Suder (played by Brad Dourif of LotR Wormtongue fame) to the list of favourite characters. Very complex antihero-esque persona who definitely falls into the shades of grey category that's more commonly seen in DS9. Comments Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:22:50 PST Vii Comment by Vii on DS9 S7: When it Rains... Second the fact that Damar's character arc was amazing. From being a background character, the "other" Cardassian who was always at Dukat's side and was once beaten up by Kira, to being the person that murdered Ziyal, which led to Dukat's demise, and then reconciliating with Kira and ultimately becoming a martyr in the Cardassian revolution. As for Garak not acknowledging the fact that Damar had murdered Ziyal, I'm pretty sure that the novel 'A Stitch in Time,' written by Andrew Robinson himself, has a bit in it which mentions that Garak had thought about doing so in revenge for Ziyal's death, but he recognised that Damar was the sort of leader that the new Cardassia needed, and put aside his own personal feelings in pursuit for the greater picture, much like Damar did when he killed Rusot. Garak even attends Damar's memorial and regrets that Damar didn't live to see the end of the war. Comments Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:02:50 PST Vii Comment by Vii on TNG S6: Time's Arrow, Part II I grew up watching TNG and VOY, which makes me somewhat impervious to their failings. I remember trying to watch DS9 with my family as a kid, but no one liked it so it was quietly written out. About 15 years later (I'm 23 now) I rediscovered the Star Trek universe and began rewatching TNG and VOY. I also watched all of DS9, despite my rather bad impression of it as a child, and was completely blown away. As mentioned by some of the previous commentators, the issue with TNG and VOY was their prevailing "alien of the week" theme and increasingly sidelined cast. The beauty of DS9 was that the characters couldn't just barge into a world, scramble it up and then warp off; they had to stay and deal with the consequences of their actions. Another of DS9's strengths was that their minor recurring characters ended up getting more personality than the main cast in either TNG and VOY's latter seasons - think Nog, Damar and even Kasidy Yates. When you compare them to main characters like Chakotay, Tuvok and unfortunately most of the VOY crew, the difference couldn't be more clear-cut. I adored VOY and I always will, contrary to popular opinion. Some of the small moments in VOY, where you get to see glimpses of the sidelined main characters, are wonderful - I immensely enjoyed the sparring sessions between Tom, B-Elana and Harry in the latter seasons. "Hi, I'm Harry Read-me-like-a-book Kim," and the episode 'Author Author' come especially to mind. It's a pity, because the VOY crew for me was really interesting, but they just ended up being background fodder. As for favourite characters, I've never watched TOS in its entirety or ENT, so won't include them (otherwise Nimoy's Spock and Kelley's Bones would definitely be up there), but off the top of my head, in no particular order: 1. Data 2. Damar 3. Dukat 4. Martok 5. Garak 5. Ro Laren 6. K'Ehleyr (I adored Suzie Plakson in this role, and hers was a truly tragic character) 7. Hugh of Borg 8. The Doctor 9. Kathryn Janeway 10. Jean-Luc Picard, if only for his numerous facepalms and "Captain Picard Day." Comments Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:16:13 PST Vii Comment by Troy on TNG S1: Justice LaForge: And they make LOVE at a drop of a hat Yar: ANY HAT CRUSHER: Sounds wonderful for the children Comments Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:48:04 PST Troy Comment by MsV on DS9 S3: Explorers Why all of this quibbling about the lightship idea not being plausible, Star Trek is not plausible either. Its a TV show, all spacey things work. Starship aren't real, warp speed is impossible, transporter or fantasy. This is an interesting show and all things work. I think its funny when you try to base harsh opinions on Sci-fi. It makes for good television. The only thing I find ridiculous is when people try to make assumptions on what Gene would have felt, Who cares, he beieved in making money, btw he's dead. Comments Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:18:30 PST MsV Comment by MsV on DS9 S3: The Die Is Cast This was an exceptional 2 parter, I really liked the scenes wih Odo/Garak. The interrogation scene was useless, Odo had not hidden anything from the Federation except his personal desire to be with his people, which would not have benefited anyone. I would think that founder would have told the Jem'Hadar not to fire on the shuttle, be he didn't. Someone mentioned the only reason Odo stayed with the Federation was Kira, not so, Odo could not see himself aligning himself with murderers, he did not could that order. Excellent, excellent, excellent. Comments Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:53:24 PST MsV Comment by MsVa on DS9 S3: Through the Looking Glass I am just finished DS9 since I found it last October or November on Netflix. This is a great episode and if I were the original commentator I would rate it a 4. I looked at all of the characters and even the score, which I rarely do and I found superb acting ability from all of the actors except Andrew Robinson, he was not as good in this role as the DS9 Garak. The Character Andy plays has good writing and is not really that complex most of the time. The Wire was the best I saw him play. I just wished they could have brought Jennifer into the DS9 timeline and kept her there for Ben and Jake. Comments Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:45:48 PST MsVa Comment by Brian S on DS9 S6: The Sound of Her Voice The worst part is, some of the problematic details of this episode could have been worked out with just a little extra thought. Shorten the Defiant's trip to 3 days (eliminates the ridiculous 2 week absence of the Commander of the 9th Fleet in the middle of a war to rescue one escape pod), and have the time distortion be like a month. A month would be far enough into the past for the mission to be futile from the beginning, but not so far into the past that the entire plot requires the viewer to suspend belief that the Defiant crew never mentioned the date or even bothered to look up her ship's records. Comments Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:55:51 PST Brian S Comment by MsV on DS9 S2: The Maquis, Part II I think Marc Alaimo is one of the best actors on this series. I have watched him over the years on different programs and he was real good on those too. I remember when he was on Quantum Leap as a police officer, he was good. On the contrary I have seen Rene (Odo) in different programs most recently Criminal Minds, he wasn't as good as people on this site attempt to claim. He played a good Odo but other than that he is a mediocre actor, to me. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 23:20:05 PST MsV Comment by MsV on DS9 S2: The Maquis, Part I Avery did a very good job in this episode. I agree that Bernie Casey's dialog did not come off very well. I have seen him in several movies and TV shows over the years he has do great especially for an ex-football player. Avery Brooks is a very good actor. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 23:12:25 PST MsV Comment by MsV on DS9 S2: Sanctuary Andrew you so right. What I got from this episode was the Skreeans were too secure enough to stand on their own. Why would they insist on farming poisoned land. The Cardassians did a number to Bajoran land. These people did not have manners, their children were unruly and disobedient. Who would want to live with them, I wouldn't. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:40:23 PST MsV Comment by Eli on VOY S2: Parturition I thought the episode was endearing. Thumbs up! Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:27:35 PST Eli Comment by MsV on DS9 S2: Second Sight I enjoyed this episode and concur with Alex and one's opinion of whether someone can act or should be stated as such. Who made these people authorities on someone's acting ability other than their own opinion. Salli Richardson had great chemistry with Avery Brooks and I too would have loved to see them act together again. A lot of these people who post here are always contrasting DS9 with TNG and other Trek series, the point is it was supposed to be different. It was created to be different I am glad they see it that way. Someone else mentioned with all of the negative criticism of this show, why would they watch it. I have always enjoyed DS9 and it is my favorite Trek show. Sisko is not like Picard and vice versa, he wasn't supposed to be. My one concession is they can have their opinions, like they say "opinions are like butts, everybody has one" Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:25:59 PST MsV Comment by Corey on ENT S2: The Catwalk Like Voyager's NIGHT, this episode spoils a great premise with a needless "action plot". The episode's core idea was good enough to sustain a full episode. Why mar it with a hijacking? Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:48:13 PST Corey Comment by Brian S. on TNG S5: Cause and Effect "One of this season's better episodes except for the Bozeman showing up and not knowing anything was wrong. The geniuses on the Enterprise solve the riddle in 17 days so the Bozeman must have been crewed by a bunch of dummies" -------- This entire episode can be summed up in one paraphrased quote from Futurama's Professor Farnsworth: "Oh no! Data's stuck in an infinite loop, and Frasier's an idiot!" Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:41:00 PST Brian S. Comment by Chris on TNG S5: Disaster Despite it being a fluff episode, this carried on from "The Wounded" and "Data's Day" in making O'Brien a more rounded character, The way he delivered the technobabble and his mini-conflict with Ro really reflected the O'Brien we saw in the early seasons of DS9. While I don't dislike Troi nearly as much as some TNG fans, the bit where he brushed off her comparison between a quantum filament and a cosmic string was a punch-the-air moment (and hopefully a deliberate wink by the writers about the sudden introduction of this hazard for starships - can't think of another episode that mentions these filaments). Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:16:24 PST Chris Comment by jk on VOY S5: Timeless I am a little saddened and baffled that, in the future, engineers and possibly researchers will abandon the practice of testing new inventions before using them. Of course I'm talking about Kim's solution. He and Tom Paris were testing the system in the holo suite, confirmed that it didn't work, conveniently skipped trying out Kim's fix, and went out to try it (of course, the materials of whatever they had assembled would degrade if they didn't go RIGHT NOW). Then, Kim in the future spends 15 years studying a new solution, not testing it (at least it's understandable, since he might not have had a chance at a holo projector), not making obvious plan B (aborting the flight instead of making it work), and, especially, not thinking of the obvious plan A: just send the message at a reasonable time, like, for example, before the last minute. I do hope that I missed something vital to make everything, well, make sense. But as of now, I find myself in the rather weird position of being in agreement with the review, and disagreeing with the rating by a significant margin. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:50:51 PST jk Comment by Brian S. on DS9 S3: Heart of Stone @Paul M:"Here's a guy who didn't know how to read and write just two years ago! Are we to believe that he managed to catch up on all those countless years of education he missed in such a short time frame?" I never bought the whole didn't know how to read bit. Ferengi culture is backwards in many ways, but for a society that is so obsessive about business and profit, you'd think a teenage Ferengi male would be literate enough to read & write financial statements, a business plan, a standard contract, etc. I think it would fit much better that Nog couldn't read English, and that--for whatever reason--Starfleet and Keiko's school didn't translate too many things into Ferengi. Or perhaps that Nog can read well enough for being an employee at his job. Rom did say early in Season 1 that they are given work-study positions. I'm surprised that he wouldn't be able to read well enough to read a business contract. But even reading a menu or a Ferengi financial statement is different from reading a novel or writing an essay. He probably isn't totally illiterate, but rather just very far behind compared to where Jake is. For someone as old as Nog (probably 18-20 years old) only being able to read at a 1st grade level is virtually illiterate. Nog is very qualified in many other ways. He's a hard worker and seemingly a good engineer. The ability to read Moby Dick and the ability to repair a plasma conduit or understand warp drive mechanics are not the same. Besides, if you already know how to speak a language, and you already know what all the words mean, simply learning how to read written words isn't all that difficult. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 11:49:17 PST Brian S. Comment by Polt on ENT S4: Demons I did not like this episode at all. If you know the mining colony is a hotbed of anti-alien-ism, why sent in T'Pol with NOTHING to cover her ears??? I like Peter Weller, but I didn't like him seemed to me he was talking in a monotone the whole time... And, unfortunately, Travis gets a 'love interest'. I was really hoping he'd be revealed to be gay. With a body like his, he should be.:) Well, at least we get to see him shirtless in bed. I totally echo Carbetarian's comments from above! Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:31:00 PST Polt Comment by Capitalist on ENT S3: E<sup>2</sup> @Hasjtracker from 2010: "I hope someday in the future someone will come back a couple of thousand years to show us that time itself is always clean and cant be contaminated" It doesn't work. I tried it. No one in this time period believes that I'm from 2688. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:32:00 PST Capitalist Comment by MsV on DS9 S2: Invasive Procedures I never forgave Quark for this episode, when he lost his bar and all of his assets, I was so pleased. (Body Parts). Verad was interesting but I am glad we never heard of him again, how many maniacs did DAX have to live with before she lost her mind. DS9 is the best Trek ever. This show improved each year, yes they had some shaky shows, but they improved as the show progressed. I don't look for errors in the shows, I tend to look at the characters because the writing was excellent. It took a while before I warmed up to Bashir but eventually I liked him. They wrote the character real goofy. The best doctor of all series, but a stupid character. The best term I can come up with is educated fool. I hated Kira for 2 1/2 seasons. When she stopped being a b***h, I liked her toughness but she was totally irrational. She acted as if Bajorans could do no wrong. Odo was a favorite, but he was not likeable. Loved Ben, Nog, Jake, and Jadzia. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 07:00:55 PST MsV Comment by MsV on DS9 S2: The Siege Where were the Bajorans who lived on the station when all of this activity was taking place? for Yanks, I know many religious leaders who are not power hungry, they are great humanitarians, in thought and deed. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:14:31 PST MsV Comment by Dimpy on VOY S2: The Thaw If you are sitting next to a friend who's never watched Start Trek, and you tell them this is one of your favourite shows, and this comes on... ... then put a bag over your head and bow in shame. ... then admit that you were adopted as a child and have issues. ... tell them you hate star trek and try to act "cool". ... never speak to that friend again, because you lost all credibility. Worst Episode Ever Also - if fear is this much fun, then The Exorcist and those devil horror movies like The Grudge should be a laugh riot to you. The only thing to fear is ( not fear itself ), but watching this episode and LIKING it, because its the proof of what your life has come to, and if you liked this episode then ... that's just sad. Also - cute midget chick in a ballerina dress. I'm sure that is an accurate portrayal of the future. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:07:56 PST Dimpy Comment by MsV on DS9 S2: The Homecoming I really liked this episode and the other 2 parts. I loved the way Sisko put Kira in her place, she is rude and thinks her issues are more important than anyones'. Sisko finished talking to his son and ordered breakfast and she had to wait. He also sent O'brien with her on this mission. During the first 3 seasons Kira was still a loose cannon and had to be put in her place. She wanted to borrow a Federation runabout, but didn't want a Federation ciizen with her. She never would have accomplished her mission alone. She needed O'brien. Although Jaro was wrong, he also let Kira know she had to answer to her superiors. Bareil let her know he had to protect her and it was not her job to protect him. Her arrogance got her into trouble more than once until she learned to be a team player and accept the Federation's help. Also the Emissary learned to respect her beliefs. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:05:22 PST MsV Comment by MsV on DS9 S1: In the Hands of the Prophets My opinion, the prophets are gods. I believe in organized religion and salvation. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 05:53:47 PST MsV Comment by Eli on ENT S4: These Are the Voyages... Oops: Last line should read: I still think Enterprise was a good addition to the Star Trek canon. One bad episode does not ruin a series. I'm happy overall with the writing during the series. The second to last sentence reads: "make run" instead of ruin. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:28:31 PST Eli Comment by Eli on ENT S4: These Are the Voyages... The writers should have taken their own advice to Riker. They should have simply made a decision about the focus of the final episode. Should it be about Archer's big speech? Should it be about Riker's decision? Should it be about Shran and Archer? Should it be about Tucker and T'Pol, or Tucker and Archer, or Archer and T'Pol? They didn't commit to one subject. I thought the subject that seemed to be most prominent was the Ricker/chef narrative. The writers should have just focused on Riker as the chef (a character that is much, but whom we never meet) interviewing each character. A quiet show of introspective discussions could have added to the show. Maybe the characters of Enterprise could have retold some dramatic memories for good measure. In general, insufficient time was allotted for characterizations in this episode. The relationship between Trip and T'Pol merited more closure. Further, the relationship between Archer and Trip was confusing. Are they life long friends or aren't they? I personally also don't think killing off a main character is respectful to the audience. I like the idea of the characters living on in some capacity in my imagination. By the way, I think people shouldn't criticize the episode too much for being a "bad" franchise finale. It wasn't the responsibility of Enterprise writers to provide closure for all other series. I still think Enterprise was a good addition to the Star Trek canon. One bad episode does not make run a series. I'm happy overall with the writing during the series. Comments Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:24:39 PST Eli Comment by MsV on DS9 S1: Progress Mulibok, was not wrong in wanting to stay but the ministers had decided on that moon and evacuated everyone except the 3 hold outs. I can understand how Kira felt, but if she truly wanted Bajor to succeed and grow, then she should have bit her lip and got the 3 hold outs off the moon. I am glad Sisko came down to remind her of her duty. If she can't follow orders she doesn't deserve the job. And yes, Sisko had to remind her that he was her boss. Comments Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:30:36 PST MsV Comment by MsV on DS9 S1: The Storyteller Scubabadger, you are so right. There couldn't possibly be a spoiler, the show is too old. Also, I get your point about the coincidence. Comments Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:19:19 PST MsV Comment by Jonn Walsh on TNG S1: 11001001 Special snowflake indeed. Yellow snow for sure. Comments Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:18:20 PST Jonn Walsh Comment by MsV on DS9 S1: Battle Lines I think Kira acted very well in this one. Her genuine sobbing over Kai Opaka was very much like real life. I have a problem with 2 things I notice on this site. The unnecessary comparison with TNG, this show was suppose to be different from the others and people complain when the actors show real emotion, you guys think its to much or over-the-top. Then, on the other hand, I love that you freely express yourselves, I like the diversity of opinions whether I agree with them or not. DS9 is the best Star Trek ever, especially for the differences. Comments Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:14:51 PST MsV Comment by MsV on DS9 S1: Vortex SamSimon, I love your commentary, only one thing is incorrect, Odo doesn't have a prime directive, that is a Starfleet thing. I loved this episode. Comments Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:01:51 PST MsV Comment by MsV on DS9 S1: Q-Less @ Grumpy Otter: I have a dream that someday I will meet the person who thought up the character of Q and I will choke him to death on his own intestines. Will someone please tell me that DS 9 never invites that infantile asshole back ever again? Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. Total agreement. I hope you come back to this site and read this post. lol Comments Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:55:09 PST MsV Comment by MsV on DS9 S1: Captive Pursuit @ Yanks: It didn't make Sisko look ridiculous at all. It showed outstanding leadership. I totally agree with you. I have a question, what makes you or any of you think that Miles got a reprimand? Sisko balled him out and the case was closed. That's how I interpreted the smile. As a matter of record, Sisko had to say something about it, case closed. Comments Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:50:02 PST MsV