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Kevin
Mon, May 22, 2017, 11:29am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Basics, Part II

So I was to believe that Seska taught them abut voyager from memory, or did she manage to download the tech manuals to her IPod? (Voyager for Dummies)?
I saw this a few days ago and the crew looked like 1st year cadets, and yes, it was too predictable.
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Chrome
Mon, May 22, 2017, 8:47am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Afterimage

@Gooz

"And Ezri's comment to Bashir. Really? It would have been Bashir?"

Maybe Ezri's projecting her own feelings onto Jadzia. At least, I think this was the writers' attempt to foreshadow the Ezri-Bashir ship. Though, in all fairness, seasons 1 - 3 did tease a Jadzia-Bashir romance quite a bit.
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Gooz
Mon, May 22, 2017, 7:59am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Afterimage

How is Worf still in star fleet? No consequences for his assaulting a fellow officer?

Screw him, his stupid sash, and his fragile little emotions. Everyone walks on eggshells around that dude.

And Ezri's comment to Bashir. Really? If an emotionally abusive, possessive 'roided up a-hole hadn't come along, it would have been Bashir? Like she only had two options in her life (three if you count Quark)? Plus, there were plenty of Klingons and Jem Hadar befor she'd ever get to Bashir. She had a type, and it wasn't Bashir.
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Yanks
Mon, May 22, 2017, 6:47am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: The Sound of Her Voice

Wouldn't work Gooz. Because she was conversing with them... they would have determinded Wiki was incorrect. It would have played out the same way.
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Peremensoe
Mon, May 22, 2017, 12:00am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: The Aenar

Oh, I think Shran is one of the best things about this series. And I like ST:E, more than a lot of people.
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Peter G.
Sun, May 21, 2017, 11:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: The Return of the Archons

@ Rahul,

Rather, I would suggest that Festival wasn't an unforeseen blip in the system, but was a control mechanism introduced by Landru when it became clear that the oppressive control was unacceptable on some level to the people. The computer system would recognize this and introduce a pressure valve. Not only do I not think the people were independently rebelling during Festival, but on the contrary, I think Landu forced them into periodic frenzy to release the tensions introduced by the forced peace. As they said in The Matrix, it's just another layer of control.
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Lupe
Sun, May 21, 2017, 10:26pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Deja Q

It's funny - I remember seeing the first episode of TNG - possibly a year after it came out - and finding the whole thing rather rather silly, and subsequently finding Q irritating whenever he turned up. Not Troi's mother or The Grand Negus irritating, but not all that far off. Then something odd happened and I started warming to him, and now I think he's great!

Perhaps it hasn't hurt that I've just come off re-watching Breaking Bad, where John de Lancie puts in such a memorable and sympathetic performance, but this is one character and actor who I've certainly done a 180' on over the decades. Not to say he hasn't been in a few clangers (wanting to mate with Janeway, for example. Was that before or after Tom Paris mated with her while they were newts? I can't remember? Still he was probably the best thing about that episode).

Worf's monosyllabic existential suggestion, 'Die', as the only acceptable evidence of being mortal is possibly the funniest one second of dialog in ST history (well, it's debatable, but it'll do until someone can point me to something obviously better, consisting of no more than three letters. Maybe there's a really funny phoneme out there?)

Seriously though, this episode is one of the rare moments when Star Trek manage to a generally funny episode without it being a disaster involving something like the aforementioned Negus and Troi's mother. Babylon 5, for instance, managed to weave humorous dialog into a regular dramatic episode, but usually Trek gives me the impression of having decided that they've had a run of deep and serious eps, and it must therefore be time for a comedy episode, and then playing the whole 44:30 minutes for laughs. This episode manages to be lighthearted without being disposable - though the Mariachi Band was maybe a bridge too far, and the cigar in the last shot might have been ok if they'd have left that awful SFX head out, or waited a few years til they could have CG'd it.

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Chuck
Sun, May 21, 2017, 10:02pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: The Aenar

Captain Experiential, here. I am rather liking the development of the relationship between Shran & Archer. Plotholes be damned. It's heartwarming to see their friendship strengthen with each stressor they conquer together.
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Rahul
Sun, May 21, 2017, 9:54pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: The Return of the Archons

@Peter G.,

Thanks for your comment - sorry I didn't notice it until now. I can see where you're coming from re. Festival. I think you're right in that it has a significance for what it says about the society under Landru's control, but it didn't seem to factor into Kirk & Co.'s plans for freeing the society and the Enterprise. Once it was done, it was done and it seems to just be treated as another bizarre aspect of the computer-controlled society.

What I think about is, if Festival is a period when the people are not under Landru's control, wouldn't they try to do what Kirk & Co. are trying to do i.e. figure out how to "unplug" Landru rather than destroying and going bananas? Or maybe they've simply lost the ability to think independently and can only rebel mindlessly.



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R.J.
Sun, May 21, 2017, 9:47pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Future Imperfect

Some Federation ships have very long lives since we still see Miranda and Excelsior Classes in DS9. Reminds me of the B-52 bomber.
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Lupe
Sun, May 21, 2017, 8:15pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: When the Bough Breaks

So long since I've seen season one of TNG that I'll refrain from commenting, other than having just noticed that this is the single Trek directorial outing by Kim Manners, who would famously go on to produce and direct X-Files and Supernatural, and to whom Vince Gilligan dedicated the Breaking Bad episode 'Breakage', on his death in 2009. I wonder how that one-off involvement came about.
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Lupe
Sun, May 21, 2017, 7:53pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

I should mention thatI I (re)watched this episode as part of an unbroken binge which lasted into season four, without pausing to review each episode while it was fresh in my mind. Therefore I won't go into too much detail. Except this one, because for some reason it really stuck in my head:

They carry rocks in the ceiling!

Really, in the scene where Garrett's bridge is blown up, the ceiling gives way and out tumbles an avalanche of various sized rocks. I watched in slow-mo just to check, and I can't imagine what else they could reasonably be construed to be. It always seemed kinda ridiculous to me that every time they get in a firefight things blow up all over the bridge in showers of sparks and flames and smoke, as if the whole place was running on old radio vacuum tubes, but now a bunch of obviously heavy, irregularly sized but basically rock shaped rocks tumble out of the ceiling and cause grievous injury to the Captain. Did they position the Captain's chair directly beneath the ship's collection of small boulders? It's a spaceship - everything should be as light as possible without sacrificing strength, and by the 24th Century I should think that would be very light indeed, so don't tell me these things are inexplicably broken up bits of iron girders or concrete or something.

Anyway, there's my main contribution to the analysis of this episode. I don't think it really needs much else from me by now, but I'll give it a fling:

I guess I'm in the good, probably very good, but not an instant classic group. I'd be willing to buy that it was an instant classic in 1989 in terms of what had preceded it on TNG, but in the bigger picture of what came out over the following 15 or 16 years of uninterrupted TV Trek, I can think of enough episodes which are markedly better that if I give this my highest accolade, I have no room left at the top for them (1989 was, BTW, around when I started regularly watching the series. I'd been aware of it before then, but it didn't start to click with me til around this point).

My biggest problem while watching this episode is really probably my own fault more than the episode's. I guess I'm insufficiently versed in Trek history, but I wasn't clear that there was an ENT-C captained by someone called Garrett, which had existed between Kirk's and Picard's Enterprise, and it therefore seemed to me as if there weren't one but TWO alternate timelines going on. I couldn't understand which universe this other ship had come from. This distracted me quite a bit, and if it's something I should have known about, or I'm missing something obvious, the fault, as I said, is mine.

Apart from that I enjoyed the episode a lot, though it did seem at times to be a bit too contrived or vague. I think the arguments about Guinan's hunch dictating Picard's decision are very valid. I'd thought it a little atypical of Picard while I was watching it, but one tends to get caught up by the creepy atmospherics of this quite effective performance, and to not overanalyse it at the time. As has been observed, this is probably as much Twilight Zone or Fantasy as SF, but ST has never really been the sort of Hard SF which John W. Campbell would have approved of. It does wander into other genres fairly regularly (that's if you even consider SF a genre to begin with). All the same it's inevitable and probably not unfair that it is going to attract the sort of viewership who expect it to cross its T's and dot its I's at least where commonsense is concerned.

All in all, not much to complain about here, and a good but not great episode. They should do something about that ceiling insulation, though.
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Trajan
Sun, May 21, 2017, 2:47pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Who Watches the Watchers

@Lupe

Pretty sure that's a sub-paragraph of the same regulation!

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Andrew
Sun, May 21, 2017, 2:24pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Dragon's Teeth

My mistake, that was in "Homestead".
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Andrew
Sun, May 21, 2017, 2:22pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Dragon's Teeth

I do have to LOL that this episode has little Naomi knowing about and merrily telling about the events of "Tuvix," that must have been the writers slamming all the fans who found its ending unethical.
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Andrew
Sun, May 21, 2017, 1:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: Blaze of Glory

This episode had a better version of Eddington than "For the Uniform" but it still or more so feels like demonizing and strawman-ing the Maquis overall, as ruthless fanatics. I really disliked that the episode so much identified Eddington as The Leader of the Maquis, that seems pretty simple minded-they're bad guys, he's really bold and ruthless and was already a Lieutenant Commander so everyone else accepted and followed him.
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Andrew
Sun, May 21, 2017, 12:30pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: The Darkness and the Light

I think Behr as showrunner in season 4 and 5 kind of regressed some of the characters from where they were in seasons 2, 3 and somewhat 4, notably Kira and, until DBIP, Bashir. So Kira's views were disappointing but not really surprising.

This episode, especially its ending, kind of exemplifies dark for the sake of dark and dark & ambiguous in an at least somewhat pretentious way.
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Gooz
Sun, May 21, 2017, 11:38am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: The Sound of Her Voice

Crewman: We're getting a distress signal from a star ship captain.
Sisko: What's her name?
Crewman: Lisa Cusak
Sisko: Let's look her up and confirm her identity before we 1) delay our mission by 12 days running after her, and 2) telling her all our personal and military secrets
Crewman [2 seconds later]: Wikipedia says she died years ago when her ship went missing.
Sisko: Captain Cusak, what's the star date?
Cusak: [some number]
Sisko: Honey, I've got some bad news for you.
Sisko [to Crewman]: Resume course.
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Andrew
Sun, May 21, 2017, 11:36am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: The Void

Gilmore was a killer who shouldn't get a lot of consideration, let alone deference, from the crew.
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Ivanov
Sun, May 21, 2017, 10:46am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Wolf in the Fold

Scotty got caught in an explosion on the Enterprise. And because it was caused by a female he now resents half the Human race. McCoy and Kirk decide the only logical thing to do is get him laid and call it therapy. This is a rather weird episode.

I must say that the Internet must have spoiled me, because I found the dancer in the beginning to be rather dull instead of provocative and the close ups on her lower front awkward. especially the creepy smile that Scotty sports the whole time.
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Andrew
Sun, May 21, 2017, 10:06am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Distant Origin

Some elements that were kind of inconsistent, especially why and how the doctrine was essential to the governmental system being maintained (and why and how the scientist initially didn't know or ignored that), but still a success, mostly because Beltran did well and the relationship and chemistry between Chakotay and Gegen.
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Andrew
Sun, May 21, 2017, 9:55am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Unity

To me this episode just felt too on-the-nose and manipulative and odd and unpleasant since it seemed manipulative with dark messages ... when people regain individuality they'll instantly go to incompatible tribalism and fighting? They need to be magic-technology-re-collectivized, that's the only way to prevent or end fighting?
And, from the early deceptions, it seemed obvious that the group would of course end up being not so benevolent or tolerant as they initially claimed to be (and the ending was a way to show that but in a safe way).
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Andrew
Sun, May 21, 2017, 9:43am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Third Season Recap

On the one hand, this season generally didn't feel business as usual, there were some interesting stories and fine risks, on the other hand there were some episodes that were really awful and others that had too little energy and/or ended safely.
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Andrew
Sun, May 21, 2017, 9:41am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Before and After

The beginning felt a little too much like a low-energy "All Good Things...," with both Lien and Mulgrew no Patrick Stewart but still good in their own right, otherwise pretty good uses of characters but the pacing felt a little too random.
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Gooz
Sun, May 21, 2017, 9:19am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Time's Orphan

The whole A-plot was an insulting waste of time. In the end, the 18-year-old Molly and her PTSD never had a chance to exist, which is the exact same thing that would have happened if they had just recalibrated and tried again in the beginning.

Also, recall that O'Brien and many on the crew had zero issues with **thousands** of people not getting a chance to exist in Children of Time. That is, until O'Brien saw a curly-haired redhead like himself and changed his mind.

The "all women get baby fever when they see a baby" thing was offensive.

Worf was surprisingly likable here. Keiko for once didn't grate on my nerves. Molly was her annoying self as a child, and now we know, as an adult too. Leave them both in the past, and send in Yoshi and Keiko too.
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