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Nicholas Ryan
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 12:30pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Flesh and Blood

Once again it was established in the first episode they appeared that the Hirogen were at least spread out all the way to the Beta quadrant. And they all can stay in contact via their communications network. So obviously they shared the holodeck technology that way.
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Aaron
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 12:00pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: The Game

I see Leffler and Crusher as two very high-functioning autistic people with a high-degree of social awkwardness, which would make sense how the whole game thing kind of missed them until it they were the only ones left not hooked. The two of them play well off each others quirks, but I sense zero chemistry. They both read as asexual to me.
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Ivanov
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 11:28am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Fair Haven

Irish stereotype:Exuse me Father I need a bit of counsel
Doctor:Not now
Irish stereotype:But iv'e broken the 5th commandment again!
Doctor:Say 10 our fathers and get me latter.

Um Doc the Catholic 5th commandment is Thou shalt not kill the innocent.

So that annoying old Irish guy is a repeated murder? that strangely makes him more endearing to me.
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Chrome
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 11:22am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Endgame

@Timeship

I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable sounding technobabble solution here. Like, the future tech Janeway gives past Janeway is surrounded by chronoton particles which renders it safe from the fluctuations of time. (See "Past Tense")
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Jammer
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 11:05am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery

@Del_Duio, I'm actually with you here. I hope that they keep this mostly family friendly so that kids of a certain age can watch it. It's just a matter of where to draw the line so that the show can work for the more sophisticated audience as well. Most of that, however, has little to do with how graphic the content is versus how good the writing is, so this whole thing is really a bit of a red herring.
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Timeship
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 11:02am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Endgame

I just finished watching "Voyager" on Netflix this past weekend. I remembered why I was so irritated with this show at that time.
They use time travel as a fast way to get a plot point across without using any logic. (Not to sound Vulcan) Paradox after paradox, returns to the point, that once you create a new timeline, it will loop to the point of it's beginning. And start again. And repeat.
Janeway's solution was to go back in time, and give high tech equipment to her prior self, and bring them home earlier. Coming home earlier, erases everything, including the need to be brought back. So, by not doing this, they are not brought back and they stay, until, They once again are brought back, which eliminates their need...
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Ivanov
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 10:58am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery

@Chrome
The only way she''ll be like janeway is if she gets written inconsistently from episode to episode in a way that makes her look bipolar.
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Chrome
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 10:13am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery

@Del_Duio

My first reaction:

Please don't be like Janeway,
Please don't be like Janeway,
Please don't be like Janeway!

But yes, I see potential here. Sisko started as a Commander too, after all.
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Del_Duio
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 10:09am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery

@ Jammer-

You're right about that, everybody laughed when it happened and so did I. I think I'm looking at it from a different perspective now though, as I much prefer the pre-emotion chip Data over the one featured in the movies (though he wasn't bad at all).

Also Alice Eve is super hot, but whenever that underwear scene comes on when I'm watching Into Darkness with my kids I'm just kind of cringing a bit since it was only in there for the T&A and nothing more.

And BELIEVE ME guys when I say I am far from a prude or a bible thumper or any of that at all. It's just what I get out of those Fuller quotes is that he's going to purposely try to push the boundary of what's acceptable just because he can now. Hopefully they'll push the boundaries of great storytelling first and foremost.
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FlyingSquirrel
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 9:28am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery

Re: "Family friendly" - I think the distinction is that most of the current Star Trek material is something that adults can watch with their kids even if some of the themes and subtext will go over the kids' heads. I vaguely recall watching Star Trek I on TV or video at home with my parents (I was born in 1977) and seeing all the movies from at least ST3 on in the theater. (I know I saw Wrath of Khan somewhere in there, can't remember if it was at home or in the theater.) My family and I also watched TNG together from Day 1.

In retrospect, did I "get" everything that was being conveyed? Probably not. I remember that when I first saw "The Outcast," I viewed it as a general "be respectful of people who were different" message as opposed to a gay rights allegory specifically. But for the most part, Star Trek wasn't something where my mom and dad would have to worry that I'd either be freaked out by the level of violence and horror or would have a bunch of uncomfortable questions for them when it was over.
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Ivanov
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 9:03am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery

So is the captain also going to be a main character or are we just going to here their voice on an intercom every once in a while?
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Jammer
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 8:35am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery

Aw, c'mon, Data saying "shit" when the ship crashed was a perfect use of an isolated curse. It fit the moment, fit the comic theme (despite the larger failure of that comic theme) and felt like a little wink to the audience regarding what they could do in the medium. I still remember the sold-out crowd for that movie, and that moment brought the house down. I just hope Discovery is as good at choosing its moments.
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Del_Duio
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 8:27am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery

I don't know I think it'd way better without gratuitous scenes or nonsense and even swearing. Having Data say "shit!" when the ENT-D was crashing was bad enough, I don't want to hear it 10 times every episode to be honest.

Also isn't it better that way because then when Riker tells Picard "SHUT UP! As in close your mouth and stop TALKING!" it's all the better for it. If they talked like that all the time then that scene wouldn't mean half as much. I think that's exactly why they're going to shoot some STD scenes twice. So the 'director's cut' might have the Klingon Captain telling Number One the Klingon equivalent of "Go fuck yourself, beeatch!" and the reshot version will be something family-friendly.
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Del_Duio
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 7:50am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: Vis A Vis

@ Michael

He / She / It has been posting a ton of nonsense on this site over the past week+, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you!
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Yanks
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 7:38am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery

"Number One"

www.aintitcool.com/node/76084
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Michael
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 5:38am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: Vis A Vis

@mephyve:
Dude or dudette: CHILL. If you want to post S.J.W. rants, take it to Tumblr.
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W Smith
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 5:01am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek Into Darkness

I guess time has been kind to STID in your eyes. STID was just awful. Yes, even worse than V and Nemesis. It's the only Trek I don't and won't own on DVD because it doesn't even feel like Trek. It's so full of plot holes and poor characterization that I don't know if I could even give it one star. I especially dislike what they've done with Spock in the Kelvin timeline turning him into an emo Spock.
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W Smith
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 4:54am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek Beyond

Good to see Jammer back, but disagree with the movie assessments. STID was the worst of all Trek movies, even V and Nemesis at least felt like Trek STID was just cringe-worthy on so many levels: whitecasting Khan, ill-thought and executed homage, no exploration, huge plot holes, emo Spock and the silly romance, etc.). Beyond was good, but not great. Krall as the villain was lacking with a ridiculous motivation and back story. But at least the characters rang true, except for Spock who still feels off. Oh well... Trek is best on TV anyway so I look forward to what they bring in Discovery.
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mephyve
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 4:49am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: Vis A Vis

I thought voyager would have a lot of male bashing but apart from the 2nd episode There hasn't been any of that. But this episode contains something even worse. It's misogyny at it's worst.
"Hey I just got raped by a guy who looked just like you. Let's make out in the back of a Camaro."
WHAT??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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mephyve
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 4:25am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: Vis A Vis

Repulsive! B'Lenna was raped! No big deal.....? Repulsive!!!!! (-*****************)
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mephyve
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 3:33am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: The Killing Game

Oh please. Aliens take the ship....again. Someone wake me up when the Hirogen arc is over. I'm going to skip part 2 altogether (0)
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mephyve
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 3:26am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: Retrospect

Janeway says "Here we are again."
My sentiments exactly. Very tedious episode. What else is new.
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mephyve
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 3:16am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: Prey

Boring. Look out there's an alien on the ship. Janeway continues to pat herself on her inept back (*)
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mephyve
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 2:51am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: Hunters

Ok. Back to humdrum (**)
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dave
Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 12:12am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Time's Orphan

DS9 is on Netfix here in Canada so I have been jumping around watching some episodes. Always good to come back and read Jammer's reviews like I did back in the 90's and other times when I binge watched the series.

You know, the thing I am thinking now, which I didn't consider back during it's first run (I was in my 20s, now in my 40s) is the right thing would have been for O Brien to resign, get a farm in Ireland, and take Molly there. In 3 - 5 years she would have been an educated productive member of society and he could have come back to Starfleet.

of course, he needs to be on the show. So, if they must have sent Molly back to the time portal to sell the "letting go of your child" message, then there should have been no return of the 8 year old. They should have had to live with the emotional reprocussions of letting the child go and never seeing her again (which was the point of their decision). Hey, they could have done an O'Brien arc where he was obsessed with finding her and maybe ends up finding the planet and her bones and some artifacts from here life there centuries ago (maybe some art, tools, a shelter, things like that).

So to me, the issue here is there was no consequence to their decision. Reset buttons suck in Trek and this episode would have been more powerful without it and given some compelling B story plots in a later episdoe or two.


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