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- Sun, Mar 9, 2014, 7:57am (USA Central)
>@Chris, DeanGrr & Jim: No offense, but I think >you're all mistaken. Science isn't a "religion", >"belief system" or a "perspective on the >universe", it's a method of determining cause >and effect. Calling it a "religion" or "belief >system" or "perspective" is like calling >observation a religon, belief system or >perspective. I think you meant the idea that >there's a purely materialistic explanation for >everything and that the supernatural doesn't >exist is a belief system or perspective (though >I'm not sure it would count as a religion).
Adam, unfortunately, this is not true. "Science," or at the very least, neo-Atheism, should absolutely be considered as one entirely fallible perspective among many. It may not have Gods, no; but it does have human beings (Darwin, Sagan, Asimov, Dawkins) who are regarded with a degree of positive bias that is every bit as emotive and irrational as religious reverence.
That the scientific method itself, very strictly speaking, works, is not something that I will disagree with. The problem, however, is the fact that none of "Science's" contemporary devotees are ever talking exclusively about the method, whatsoever. They are talking about the humanist pantheon, as mentioned, and also often the entire bias regarding the fact that only the mainstream, academic circle jerk are permitted to have an opinion about anything.
Those who genuinely know what science is, virtually never express emotional bias towards it, whether positive or negative. People who do, are not referring to science in any objectively provable or disprovable sense, but to a particular collection of dogma that has come to be falsely and euphemistically referred to as "Science," but which in reality, is anything but.
- Sun, Mar 9, 2014, 3:43am (USA Central)
Amazing background story!
But first, let put the weak parts clearly on the table. Ok, it is already too much of meeting humans by chance in the Delta Quadrant and I hope the show slows this nonsense down. It is also already too much of finding ways to get back home just to be suddenty and obviously frustrated. Gosh, didn't any writer notice how silly it was becoming? I fully agree that the receipt of Voyager finding a new way to almost-get-back home almost every week is tiring.
Anyway, that said, the story behind the humans getting there was quite smart and powerful. I mean, human lost in the space when abducted by aliens in the past gave birth to a differemt, parallel human civilization? Quite cool and quite full of possibilities to be explored here and in the future. Sadly, they were not, at least not in full capacity. Nobody from Voyager stays? And every single of the 37s stay? Comme on guys, this is lazy TV, huh? I just wished the writers went further and left someone from the main crew there or included some of the 37s in the Voyager crew. This could have been a nice way of introducing some continuity in the show. Anyway, this is story that can clearly be used in the future.
Lastly, I also enjoyed the dilema of staying or not staying: finally the writers properly introduced this debate. It is obvious that in the situation Voyager is in, the idea of staying at some new planet would popup often. And I really mean often: Jammer's points about the decision of staying or leaving were ilogical, absurd. He said: "but shouldn't this episode have come earlier in the series? Considering we are some 16 episodes into the series, it's not really timely to do an episode like this. This is a problem that undermines the show". What? The crew shouldn't face the dilema of maybe staying for good in some other planet because they have been in the adrift situation for a while? This is pure nonsense. On the contrary, the longer they are in the situation, the more they are expected to think about giving up. This is precisely the type of debate the crew should have - and more often than not. Voyager does not have to get over being homesick. Voyager has to get over the same plot structure every week. This a totally diferente thing.
- Sun, Mar 9, 2014, 1:47am (USA Central)
I wish to rob of this installment nothing of its greatness, but, having recently revisited Batman: TAS, this episode owes a lot to the episode "Perchance to Dream".
- Sun, Mar 9, 2014, 1:34am (USA Central)
Storm Front, Part I
Really enjoy the perspectives in these reviews, but I find it a little odd that one would be looking for social commentary with such determination. If there is no discernible commentary, episode fail. I don't think that's what the series was attempting at all.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 11:57pm (USA Central)
Thank you for the clarification, Chris.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 8:38pm (USA Central)
@Verroak (and half the other commenters here):
Let’s settle this once and for all, shall we?
You have to accept the premise of this episode: Archer has *just* met an alien species that is *clearly* technologically superior.
Let me put it in a way that you perhaps can understand:
Imagine Archer is flying around in the Enterprise, and suddenly meets Darth Vader, aboard his huge imperial super star destroyer from ”The Empire Strikes Back”. And Vader behaves politely, and says, ’Come along, captain, I’ll show you the Death Star we’re building’. And off they go, and Archer can only be awed by the colossal power of the Imperial Fleet. But once they’re aboard the Death Star, the imperial admiral gets mad at someone for no apparent reason and sentences him to death. But the poor victim then turns to Archer and asks him for asylum. And the admiral says that there can be no such thing: his officer is to stand trial and be executed for no good reason. What would you want Archer to do? Would you want him to tell Vader that his admiral can go screw himself, and that he isn’t turning the officer over to them?
Or, if you want to keep it in the Star Trek universe, imagine that Archer and his little Enterprise meet the Voth from VOY and their huge city ship. Imagine a similar scenario ― say a scientist accused of heresy against Doctrine. Would you want Archer to tell the Ministry of Elders that they can screw their Doctrine, that he isn’t turning their scientist over to them?
That’s what’s at stake here. We have no idea who these people are, only that they are more advanced than we are. Archer cannot risk offending, provoking, or antagonizing a technologically superior species. The message of the episode is more subtle than my examples, but still clear, simple, cruel, and true: we need friends out there. Not enemies.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 6:53pm (USA Central)
DLPB - which is why this is Science Fiction.......
The clue is in the name mate!
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 6:41pm (USA Central)
It is scientifically impossible for something that small to grow that big that soon. And without any real nourishment.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 5:57pm (USA Central)
*Picard. Not Picardo. I have Picardo in my auto correct. I better add Picard now :-)
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 5:54pm (USA Central)
I enjoy watching this episode. I didn't like its placement so close to the end, it was so anti climatic as Endgame was approaching. Since it's been 13 yrs since it first aired, I've started wondering what ifs
remembered how annoyed we were at the lack of consequence for Janeway when she made bad calls? It's human to make them but it's obnoxious when she is elevated to impeachable status every other cliff hanger. Anyway, I had a thought, would you all s*** your pants if we saw continuity from Janeway's "pretend" assimilation? I would have not seen it coming if the writers had Janeway or the doctor recall Janeway having Borg shielding intact from her unimatrix days. Have her walk through their shields like water and say those immortal words to those unsuspecting potato men. Now that is an ep :-)
Still bothers me seven and the queen were written to have 99% cybernetic bodies and Picardo, but most of all the command trio, do not. Had they not shown Seven to be metal with human flesh, I might have bought the senior officer restoration. I think Janeway should have walked through the alien shields :-)
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 4:53pm (USA Central)
I can't believe so many reviews of this episode are *positive*. This episode is the absolute nadir of Star Trek as far as I've seen, and is the proof why the Prime Directive is either the absolute worst idea in Star Trek, or is the most viciously abused one.
Let's put the events of this episode in perspective, and call everything by its proper name. So we have a person that is treated like an animal, and is sexually abused. This dehumanized sex slave meets another person that attempts to help her. Her new friend teaches her to read, write, shows her movies. Basically, he's the first person ever to treat her like a sentient being she is. But when her owners realize their "property" was taught reading and other things she ought to know as a basic sentient right, they get pissed and punish their sex slave. Then the sex slave asks her new friend's captain for asylum. Instead of treating her like a person, the captain treats her like property and sends the victim back to the abusers, against the victim's wish. When the victim commits suicide to escape further abuse, the MAN WHO TRIED TO HELP HER gets blamed for the death - not the people who abused her, or the captain who helped them in it.
This is a person who's not only sexually abused, she's also literally treated like an animal. I don't care about your vaunted Prime Directive, this stuff is WRONG. There is no possible moral justification for doing what the aliens are doing, or for what the captain has done. And "it's not our business" is MOST DEFINITELY NOT a justification for this despicable act. This is worse than the "eugenics is actually kinda good" episode from the previous season.
This has completely ruined the character of Archer, and possibly the entire show, for me. I'm seriously considering just never watching it again if something as bad as this has passed the basic conceptual stage. 0/10
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 4:46pm (USA Central)
The Way to Eden
I just can't get past the Enterprise getting easily taken over yet again. First there was Riley, Charlie X, Khan, the Kelvins, Commissioner Biel. At least that group had superpowers.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 4:40pm (USA Central)
Requiem for Methuselah
Good idea but poorly executed. How many episodes are based on transporting medicine for some planetary outbreak? Kirk falling in live with an android was totally absurd as was Spock doing the mind meld at the end to make him forget.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 4:33pm (USA Central)
The worst ever.
1. Spores kill 1st redshirt and Kirk continues mission.
2. Planet has same atmosphere globally. Non-sequiter.
3. Exploding rocks.
4. Kirk threatens and then fires Scott. Is that what a captain does to his top guy when the ship is under attack?
5. Vaal has almost infinite power by eating a few heads of lettuce.
6. Scotty uses every last power source on the engines, yet, amazingly the next minute phasers blast away on Vaal.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 3:43pm (USA Central)
Let He Who Is Without Sin...
Risa was originally supposed to be very, very different. Roddenberry turned it into a sex place. You should look up the Ron Moore/Ira Behr interview on that.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 3:25pm (USA Central)
Submitted for your perusal: Dr. Beverly Crusher, age 42. As a member of the medical profession, she has assisted in the birth of new life, the setting of bones, the healing of wounds, the curing of diseases. Her success depends on a calm, scientific mind that understands how humans fit within a rational world. In a few minutes, she will realize the limits of this assumption, as she comes face to face with a loss that she cannot explain nor solve. A situation that will metamorph from curiosity and concern to a terror that can freeze the soul. But one must expect such circumstances at the intersection of the Final Frontier and the Twilight Zone.
The first half or so of the episode really is a good Twilight Zone romp. We have a normally rational character thrown into a bizarre and frightening situation, and then get to see how she reacts. Like so many TZ characters, she tries at first to cling to rational arguments (her friend merely is lost and hurt somewhere, and his presence on the ship just slipped through the cracks of bureaucracy), but such pretenses of rational explanations disappears quickly. She tries to explain it, but people look at her strangely. She becomes resigned to the fate of the world, but still tries to understand it while desperately hoping she is not going insane. It invites us the viewers to wonder what we would do differently in such a situation, what we could do differently.
But, unlike TZ, this features a character we know, and thus the situation must be wrapped up and must be solved in a rational matter. So thus we have to have our technobabble-filled solution to get Beverly back. Unfortunately, it means the second half is a bit formulaic. Once we know what's going on and the twist is revealed, everything runs the way we would expect it to.
Fortunately, though, the execution of everything, both the eerie setup and the simple conclusion works thanks to several nice details:
- The fact that Beverly was the one who disappeared in the real world, which caused her to believe everyone else was disappearing, was a nice twist. Likewise, we witness what could be the cause of everyone's disappearance, only to discover later that it's the key to saving her. I thought it worked well.
- All of the nice touches as the bubble collapses. People mentioned many of them before. In any case, the back and forth between Bev and the computer were great exchanges, and seeing the gray nothingness advance was fun.
- Beverly trying to work things out. It's a bit of a cheat that the computer was able to help her with everything, such as what the link between the real world and the bubble would manifest as, but whatever. It was good to see her able to figure some stuff out on her own.
- Good acting by everyone all around. This is probably the best acting Gates McFadden had in the show. And having Picard be the last one to disappear worked well was a good idea. Picard was fully believable as the captain of an utterly ridiculous starship, and Stewart did a great job of selling that sincerity in the show.
In the end, this TZ/ST hybrid ends up an excellent sci-fi piece. Sci-fi is commonly used to mirror the current human condition, but sometimes it works best just as a bizarre "what-if" scenario. We got to see that here, and was good clean fun. Of course, with the Wesley/Traveler arc included, there were some important plot points for the overall show, but whatever. This was Beverly's show through and through.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 3:06pm (USA Central)
I am in complete agreement with Jammer on this one. There are some minor flaws, but overall I would say this is one of if not the best stand alone episodes. Direction and acting are superb and the twist is excellent. The exposition scene at the end does seem unnecessarily dialogue heavy (we don't need everything spelled out to us), but that doesn't overshadow the rest.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 2:01pm (USA Central)
Before and After
Also, while this episode was entertaining, it was flawed and had absolutely no believability factor whatsoever. It's easy to write when you don't have to think about your story making any internal logical sense.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 1:51pm (USA Central)
Before and After
Kes' whole arc was ruined by the ridiculous decision to make her age so young. There is literally no way that she would behave, and know what she knows, at that age. And apparently, she looked and behaved like an adult at around one year old. Come on, what the heck were the writers thinking??
A species that gets old that quick would never have become a dominant species. This episode with her daughter exposes how daft this idea is.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 10:16am (USA Central)
It isn't a bad episode, but it certainly isn't well written or directed either. Lazy directing and writing is easy to spot... for example:
Neelix says he can barely open his eyes... Tuvok gives him some motivation, and the next minute he is wide awake and saving the day. A good director would have made sure that this was acted properly.. that you could see how hard it was for him to carry on when injured so much.
That's one example of many in this episode and beyond.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 9:54am (USA Central)
I just finished watching this. I'm pretty sure I would have seen it before, but it was obviously so long ago that I don't remember.
As I said in my review of "Faces," I find Roxanne Dawson to be probably the single most sexually attractive Trek actress I've seen; and I'd fairly happily watch B'Elanna for hours.
With that said, this was by far the weakest B'Elanna episode I've seen. Yes, she's fiery, and I love that; but at the same time, temper still usually needs some sort of motivation. Here her temper seems purely arbitrary, most of the time. She's angry just because she's angry, and for no other reason.
Anyone who's seen "Gravity," will also know how much irony there is in Tuvok teaching Torres anger management; Tuvok might be Vulcan, but it's still a true case of the blind leading the blind, there.
There also wasn't enough action here for me, or at least not enough action that had a real point in terms of the characters or the story. I like action, but not when it is mindless, or occurs purely for its' own sake. Chakotay gets hit in the head, which doesn't really do much except maybe raise tension slightly, although you know that, as a regular character, of course he's going to be ok.
B'Elanna attempting to reason with the alien, however, and plead with it before killing it, is a good example of why VOY has become my favourite Trek series of the lot. There was action in this show, and during a few episodes said action becomes fairly intense; but despite survival occasionally being an issue (although nowhere near as much as it should have been, I know Jammer) the characters' commitment to principle demonstrated that this was still genuine Star Trek.
So yeah; Roxanne looking sexy is always a big plus, but I kept waiting for her to have an interesting character moment like she did in "Faces," and except for the brief conflict and flashback at the end, she never really does. It's disappointing.
This one gets two stars from me, with an extra half star due to makeup making Roxanne look as though she'd just been mud wrestling. Yum, yum. ;)
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 8:11am (USA Central)
Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy
Oh, I was sooo entertained by this episode back in the day. I remember when Janeway put the Doc's hand on her back end and curling my lip in disgust then laughing my butt off because the camera cut to Paris making the same face I did. I am so happy to know Mulgrew suggested and it was approved to be added. It was awkward but fun. Did Mulgrew feel a little left out hence the suggestion? I can see her say something like, I adore Picardo, but there is the political view of Janeway where she's still feeling out if he's to be treated as an equal. let me have a fun scene with him since my character is often annoyed by him."
Pon Farr scene had me in stitches.
I love the concept of the ECH.
Fun, fun episode.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 7:51am (USA Central)
I disagree. There was no reset button. Look at Mulgrew's face in the final shot. She's trying to be the reset button :-). But we know better. And their unshakable friendship is dabbled throughout the series thereafter.
"I can see their fears of this turning into a soap opera if they follow through with this
romance, but that just shows their own limitation as writers."
mmm, actually blame Mulgrew on that note and the writer's lack of ability to pull off a complex connection beyond sex. If the writer's weren't hinting at sex but a beautifully orchestrated connection between j/c as comrades out of the gate vs tossing her in bed, I think Kate might have more readily gone along for the ride.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 7:40am (USA Central)
DLPB> ha, if I am not mistaken, we could probably add Mulgrew orgasmic over acting effect to a drinking game. I've smirked a few times over the seasons.
- Sat, Mar 8, 2014, 7:37am (USA Central)
I like the character interaction but it stops there. The twisting ship thing was something I couldn't find plausible. But there could be something far beyond my comprehension in science that could make this happen. It reminded me of the barreon sweep (sp?) in TNG only without the real danger that they die if they touch it. (ie Janeway was caught in it she didn't)
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