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Paul Allen
Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 3:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S4: Indiscretion

Couldn't care less about Kassid Yates story.

But loved the Dukat and Kira scenes. Especially the butt-hurt scene. :)
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Dan
Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 11:53am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: The Masterpiece Society

Forgot to say: big props to this episode for acknowledging that the whole galaxy doesn't run on Enterprise Standard Time. A refreshing bit of realism.
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Dan
Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 11:50am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: The Masterpiece Society

I had fun imagining the Troi hand-wringing scenes replaced with Riker in that role. "Captain, I have to confess, um, I think I've made a terrible mistake!" Man, that would be a great scene.

(A little bit of this mismatch is characterization, but it's mostly just a dumb sexual double-standard. I think Starfleet's "real" attitude about relationships with the locals is more closely aligned with how we see Riker getting treated.)
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mephyve
Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 6:19am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Human Error

Fell asleep at some point. I'm not inclined to revisit
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mephyve
Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 6:16am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Q2

Voyager finally did it. first they neutered the Borg and now they've broken Q (*)
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mephyve
Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 4:12am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Workforce

That was cool! (****)
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Outsider65
Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 12:39am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: The Lights of Zetar

Not a terribly horrible episode, but not a terribly good one either.

I will say that, although Scotty babying Mira was a bit much, it was nice to see him seemingly liking her for who she was as a person, as the whole package, without any of the leering that happens in a typical Kirk romance subplot. He was sweet. Too sweet. I think I need insulin. Although if he kept that up it would easily become stifling.
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Outsider65
Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 12:24am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: Requiem for Methuselah

This episode starts out telling us that the Enterprise is infected with the plague and everyone will die if they aren't treated within four hours. Okay, but where did they pick up this plague, and how? Surely there are decontamination and quarantine procedures which would essentially eliminate plagues, and certainly prevent them from happening on a starship, but the crew are frequently careless, so I'll buy this.

Kirk demands the cure from the guy who owns the planet, after trespassing, and then later claims he didn't "demand", just "ask". His behavior throughout this whole episode is kind of off. Everyone of the ground team is acting odd, in fact. It's probably bad writing, but I'm going to say it could be that they were all suffering from early stages of the plague. I wish that had been established as the case, it would have made this episode easier to swallow.

The hostile planet owner changes his mind and invites them in, offering them a drink. Because the most appropriate time to have a drink and chill is when your crew is dying of plague. Even Spock has a drink. Wtf. There's some joking around about him not wanting his brainwaves messed with by alcohol and drunk Vulcans which doesn't make any sense. A previous episode established Spock saying that alcohol has no effects on Vulcans. So one of these episodes is lying. Or it's a retcon, or Spock was lying, or McCoy and Kirk were mistaken or joking. I'm not deep enough in this to know what's right, but I still had to point that out.

Spock says he's never felt envy before. I'd have assumed that since the pure Vulcans were cruel to him about his mixed race when he was a child and still seem to hold prejudices against him, he'd have at some point felt envious of them and their inclusion in society. I guess I can sort of hand wave that, he could be unaware of his own feelings, or lying about them, or maybe actually telling the truth. It just doesn't seem to go with what we've been told about the character so far.

Again, the crew are dying and Kirk and Co. are happy to goof off and let this guy bring the vital McGuffin instead of insisting on getting it themselves. Why did they even have the subplot about everyone dying if they were going to treat it like it wasn't a big deal? Kirk plays pool and dances with some chick, Spock wanders around saying contradictory things about how things are authentic but brand new despite the fact that age is the test for authenticity for all the things he's saying that about. Also, playing the piano seems like too unnecessary a skill for a logical being who values useful things and hates emotions to have bothered cultivating, especially when he already has that harp-thing, but that's just a nitpick. It's all pretty out of character. Kirk values his crew and duties above all else, and Spock his duties and captain, and while I would buy Kirk et al playing along to keep on their host's good side, that's obviously not the case here. It's played as them actually just screwing around.

The medicine comes back tainted and Kirk and Spock are content to let McCoy go alone with the robot that almost killed them earlier to acquisition more? These three men are always jumping all over each other to be the first to make a heroic sacrifice for the team, but they don't care enough about their dying crew to make sure nothing goes wrong this time? They're content to sit there and do nothing of value and just let McCoy do it? Really? Even if Kirk was distracted, surely Spock would say something and snap him out of it, remind him of his duties, or find out his real plan? Or McCoy would? Where are the checks and balances these three are supposed to impose on each other?

The woman acts like she's still a child emotionally, but Kirk finds her so irresistible that he just walks up and starts smooching on her with no provocation? Their only interaction was dancing and her showing him some pool moves. Those must have been some damn good moves. Kirk has romanced plenty of women, but his ship always comes first. Now he's forgetting about his dying crew to make out with his grouchy host's daughter? And Spock just watches? Really? Even though this could piss off their host, and screw them all over? And then the robot conveniently doesn't see Spock standing in the doorway watching when it comes in to kill Kirk. Mmmmmkay.

Kirk's known this girl for less than four hours, and doesn't even know anything about her other than she's magically good at everything but stupidly naive. And now he's forgetting about his duties and loyalties and risking everyone's lives to try to win her, even though he knows his host could easily kill them all. Wtf. Kirk's number one trait has always been loyalty to his ship, his crew. Even when he truly loves a woman, he'll leave her, because the Enterprise is his #1, it's even been explicitly stated that he's pretty much married to the Enterprise. But now this girl who's good at pool is making him throw it all away? No way I'd buy that.

The host is a lonely immortal, and the girl is just a robot he made for himself as a companion, and Kirk still keeps stupidly fighting to have her? People are dying upstairs and he's fighting for possession of a glorified sexbot? Against a being who could easily overpower him if it so chose? Really? When would he ever, ever do that? He insists she's real, and that she come with him? She's not a person, she's this man's property. Wtf Kirk.

The robot breaks and Spock somehow is the one who knows why, and not the 6,000 year old genius who made her? No. And he makes a big speech about love and how it killed her? No. Sorry, no. Spock being moved by the fate of a robot is stupid and out of character. Him making a speech about love is stupid and out of character. And the speech was contrived and boring, to top it off.

Back on ship, of course they got there just in time to cure everyone, even though so must time was wasted planetside. Instead of talking about what a horrible captain Kirk was this episode, Bones and Spock talk about how they feel sorry for him because the feelings he had for a robot he knew for three hours tops must have caused irreparable heartache to our womanizing hoebag captain who sleeps with a different girl every week. And for some reason Kirk is sadder here than he was for longer, more fulfilling romances (Edith, Miramanee) he had with real women that ended worse. (I guess I could hand wave this by saying it's the combined forces of all these heartaches weighing on him, but that's a bit of a stretch.) Then Bones goes to town on Spock for being incapable of love? Wtf? Again, that's totally out of character. Bones explicitly stated in a previous episode that he sees right through Spock's facade.

Spock engages in some non-consensual mind melding and memory erasing after Bones leaves. Again, this is pretty out of character. Kirk always says people need struggle and adversity to truly live, and always refused any other way. Now Spock is going against the captain's own wishes because he feels bad for him? It's his fault in the first place for hiding the fact that the captain's weekly conquest was a robot until the last minute. Then he makes it worse by screwing with Kirk's memories and feelings without permission or even Kirk's knowledge of the fact. Maybe it's a Vulcan lullaby. Maybe it's mindrape. Maybe this episode is really stupid.





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NCC-1701-Z
Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 12:22am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek (2009)

Good point, Jor-El. That would explain why quite a few people who liked this movie still considered Nero to be a weak point. Although his backstory was explained in a series of prequel comics set in the prime universe, but let's face it - most people will probably never read those. Granted, JJ Abrams basically decided to ignore canon standards for Romulans as dedicated Trek fans know them in service of creating his own villain. But then your point still stands; if they bear no resemblance whatsoever to the "predictably treacherous" Romulans with oversized shoulder pads we know and love, why make them Romulans? Why not just make a new alien race or a bunch of disgruntled humans?

Although I got a laugh out of "Hi Christopher, I'm Nero".
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mephyve
Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 12:06am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: The Void

boring (*)
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mephyve
Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 12:03am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Prophecy

Funny in spurts (**)
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Jor-El
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 11:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek (2009)

I haven't seen anyone make the following point yet so I will:

I've always noticed that some Star Trek alien characters seem 'authentic', and some come across as human actors wearing makeup. I don't know if it's the actor's fault or the director's, but there's nothing Romulan about Nero and I found it hard to convince myself he was really Romulan while watching the movie. He came across as a very angry human with pointy ears.
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Walter E. Gough
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 11:06pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek III: The Search For Spock

While predictable in outcome (might as well have called it Star Trek III: Spoiler Alert), the Search for Spock may be the most underrated movie in the canon.

The story is tight and taught. The action is purposeful. There's no meandering, no digression. It is a tale that proceeds from start to fore-ordained finish.

Perhaps the reason I really like this movie is it departs from what has, unfortunately, become a Star Trek movie formula that continues right through Beyond, the James Bond-like "stop the bad guy with his death ray," tale that must end in a climactic fight to save some or all of humanity.

We saw this template used in ST:TMP (Stop V-ger from killing everyone on Earth); WOK (The Genesis Wave. "Scotty, I need warp speed in three minutes or we're all dead."); The Voyage Home (Stop an alien probe from killing everone on Earth); less so but still the Final Frontier ("what does god need with a starship?); Generations (Stop Soran's trilithium missile, save Veridian III); First Contact (Stop the Borg from assimilating Earth in the past); Insurrection (Stop the Son'a from killing the Baku); Nemesis (stop Shinzon from killing everyone on Earth); ST re-boot: (Stop Nero from killing everyone on Earth) and in Beyond (Stop Krall from killing everyone on Starbase Yorktown).

So that leaves arguably three ST movies, of which this is one (the others being The Undiscovered Country and Into Darkenss) where the story takes us someplace else, to some different kind of conflict and a different kind of resolution.

At the same time, Search for Spock is more intimate, more personal, certainly more anguished in tone and story and really really hardcore. This is a sequel for folks who really bought into the franchise, bought into the Wrath of Khan storyline and bought into Spock's death and Kirk's encounter with his son. This film, in that sense, cannot exist without its predecessor.

If you haven't seen the Wrath of Khan, you don't want to watch this.

In that light, it's too bad we never got to explore the Saavik/David understory related in the WOK novelizaiton, never got to pick up the thread of Saavik helping young Spock through Pon Farr (and perhaps dropping out of Star Fleet to raise their child). Also, for as well as William Shatner portrayed Kirk's stunned reaction to David's death, one could make the argument it was a bit underplayed, with nary a nod to the explanation he's going to owe Carol Marcus.

All in all though, a tight, taught story, well told, even if we all knew how it was going to end.
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Brainiac3397
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 7:59pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: Paradise

The response of the colonists was unbelievable. There, in front of them, stood a megalomaniac fanatic who had even been contemplating justifying her ideas with religion for her extremist luddite beliefs, and stole 10 years of the lives of people who didnt agree to her insanity and didnt know of it. 10 years of lies, punishment, manipulation, and neglect that led to death of who knows how many people. Who conspired months before the expedition set out just to make herself leader of a community that fit her fantasy?

And they werent trying the lynch the egotistical maniac and her brainwashed son, who happened to be the only effectively armed(with a bow) colonist, when they found out?!

And Sisko just decided to punish her the soft way despite her petty attempt at breaking his will on top of everything she did?
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mephyve
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 6:53pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Repentance

An alien criminal gets a lobotomy. big deal (*)
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mephyve
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 6:16pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Lineage

I didn't realize that Voyager was produced by the Hallmark Channel.. (*)
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mephyve
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 6:01pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Shattered

Great episode (****)
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mephyve
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 5:57pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Flesh and Blood

boring (*)
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RickC
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 3:00pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: Invasive Procedures

I kept trying to figure out what some cute and bad ass chick like Mareel would see in a dufus like Verad in the first place.
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mark
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 12:01pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S6: Chain of Command, Part II

@Scottian he doesn't say "help me" but "how many".
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mephyve
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 10:43am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Nightingale

I was more engaged with the mediocre sub plot.(*)
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mephyve
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 10:10am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Body and Soul

I thought holograms had proven to be ineffective for ponfarr.funny episode (***)
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mephyve
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 9:12am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Inside Man

Leave me alone Gilligan, I'm sleeping this one out (*_
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mephyve
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 8:59am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Critical Care

Great stuff!!!1 Whodda thunk the best character on the show would be a hologram. (****)
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mephyve
Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 8:00am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Repression

Tu vok or not Tu vok? That is the question (**)
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